10 EPIC Quotes from “Conversations With God”
“Conversations With God: An Uncommon Dialogue” by Neal Walsh is one of my favorite books of all time, hands down. It is written from the point of view of god (but it’s not religion, so don’t scoff quite yet) telling man how he should live his life. I like to think of it as god’s hypothetical edits to the incredibly skewed, modern interpretation of the ‘The Bible.’ These are my ten favorite quotes from the book that I read every morning:
1“Go ahead an do what you really love to do! Do nothing else! You have so little time. How can you think of wasting a moment doing something for a living you don’t like to do? What kind of a living is that? That is not a living, that is a dying!”
2“You are making a mockery of Me. You are saying that I, God, made inherently imperfect beings, then have demanded of them to be perfect, or face damnation. You are saying then that, somewhere several thousand years into the world’s experience, I relented, saying that from then on you didn’t necessarily have to be good, you simply had to feel bad when you were not being good, and accept as your savior the One Being who could always be perfect, thus satisfying My hunger for perfection. You are saying that My Son–who you call the One Perfect One–has saved you from your own imperfection–the imperfection that I gave you. In other words, God’s Son has saved you from what His Father did.”
3“There is no coincidence, and nothing happens ‘by accident.’ Each event and adventure is called to your Self by your Self in order that you might create and experience Who You Really Are. All that is required is to know this. For you are the creator of your own reality, and life can show up in no other way for you than the way in which you think it will.”
4“The purpose of a relationship is not to have another who might complete you; but to have another with whom you might share your completeness.”
5“The laws are very simple: 1. Thought is creative. 2. Fear attracts like energy. 3. Love is all there is.”
6“Heaven–as you call it–is nowhere. Let’s just put some space between the w and the h in that word and you’ll that heaven is now…here.”
7“Know and understand that there will be challenges and difficult times. Don’t try to avoid them. Welcome them. Gratefully. Cultivate the technique of seeing all problems as opportunities. Opportunities to…be, an decide, Who You Really Are.”
8“If you want guarantees in life, then you don’t want life. You want rehearsals for a script that’s already been written. Life by its nature cannot have guarantees, or its whole purpose is thwarted.”
9“To live your life without expectation–without the need for specific results–that is freedom. That is Godliness.”
10“Never resist anything. If you think that by your resistance you will eliminate it, think again. You only plant is more firmly in place. Have I not told you that all thought is creative?”
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Dude said on 11.12.2010
I belive in God, and I do because there is so many things in our universe that ain’t possible to explain with sience. Can you give me some reasons telling me why i shuldn’t be a christian?
Still love your site ;D
Jordan said on 11.16.2010
Haha I had no idea the response to this article would be targeted towards the first paragraph. I know better than to try to tell a religion man why he shouldn’t be religious! I hate it when people try to convert me so I’ll save you the same frustration :)
Darshan Nandha said on 12.04.2010
well dude u say that there are many things out in the universe that cant be explained by science, who knows mayb it is God but what humans are just saying “fuck it i give up” and make up a God who created that thing we can’t explain at the moment, early civilizations specifically Egypt had Gods for everything they could not explain if it didn’t rain and they weren’t able to make a good harvest they believed tat the God of rain was angry at them and they would make sacrifices to try to please that God. What if right now we can’t prove it possible because we don’t have the technology or can’t think of how to prove it so we believe that God created it just because we can’t prove it.
Brian said on 12.24.2010
God is one awnser to the questions we have.
The difference is, christians believe god is the only awnser, while the rest of us, don’t make so bold of a claim.
Vio said on 11.13.2010
A really nice way to start your day by reading these quotes :D
Aaron L. said on 11.13.2010
As open minded as I found most of the articles to be, I was surprised when you refer to the Bible as B.S.
Kratoyd said on 11.14.2010
As was I… The Bible is like a full pan of a 19th century gold prospector- From an outside view, it’s full of dirt and mud, but those who study it may find gold within.
Jordan said on 11.16.2010
I love that metaphor, Kratody. I admit that I am very biased against Christianity and religion in general because I grew up with my father being a pastor. I’ve seen the problems and hurt that it can cause so it was easy to forget that it is gold to some people.
Alex said on 05.01.2011
My philosophy is don’t be “religious” and don’t think that if you find one thing in the Bible or that a Christian tells you that you disagree with that you have to toss the whole thing. Believe what you believe and don’t let anyone tell you you have to fit perfectly into a group and follow everything they say and do. I feel I have a good, spiritual, personal relationship with God, and honestly I disagree with some things in the Bible, but I definitely don’t believe that’s going to send me to burn in hell. After all the Bible was written by men, interpreting what they think God wants. Some of it I agree with and some I don’t. No point in arguing about the “science” in the Bible, regarding the fact it was written thousands of years ago. But I do have to admit some of it is dead on, like the earth being round quote Lance mentioned up there.
Danny Lowell Thompson said on 11.25.2011
Agreed.
“God wants spiritual fruits- not religious nuts.”
Sign I saw on a church I live near. ;D
Erica said on 11.14.2010
This is a great article, but I have to say, reading Conversations with God taught me that the Bible is not BS. It taught me that the words can be interpreted many ways and that humans are the ones who turn it into bullshit. The Bible can be viewed as flawed or even evil, but from a different perspective it is a beautiful book that encourages growth and truth and love. The Bible has inconsistencies, and cannot always be taken literally, but it also contains many truths.
Jordan said on 11.16.2010
Well said, Erica. Like I said to @Kratoyd, I’m a bit biased against religion but I completely agree with what you said. Even I have a lot of learning to do with being open-minded :)
Kevin said on 11.17.2010
In response to this, I would love to see an article on here about perception and the impact of what people expect to think on what they in turn think. I believe that there is so much about conversations, learning, knowledge, and so much more that is subject to a person’s perspective and will essentially skew or simply explain why somebody believes what they do. This is a very intriguing topic and has a lot of room for discussion and debate. I would love to see what you and your followers think about it and what other research or articles you can find on it. I will certainly be doing the same. Love the site, keep ‘em coming!
Jack said on 05.14.2012
Agreed!
Except I learnt first from Pulp Fiction that the bible actually has some good shit in it hahaha.
Anonymous said on 11.14.2010
The bible, is a series of books. Books written by men. When you believe in the bible, you are not beleving in the content of the book, but in the idea that the MAN who wrote that book of the bible was telling the truth.
It’s funny how now a days when people say god talks to them, we think they are crazy. Yet millions of people are willing to accept this very idea, because the men in question wrote it down.
Brian said on 11.14.2010
The bible is a series of books. All of the books in the bible, were written by a man.
For anyone who believes in the bible, you are believing that the person who originally wrote each book in that bible , was telling the truth.
God is a concept, a concept created by man. How else would you know about god if it wasn’t for the bible ?
It’s funny that today, if someone said they were talking directly to god, and that god commanded them to write a book, we’d think they were crazy. Yet millions of people are willing to believe that men they have never met, and know nothing about, were telling the truth when they wrote their particular books of the bible.
You aren’t believing in god, you are beleving in the concept of god as written by men.
Bryan said on 11.17.2010
I’ve never really commented here, even though I’ve read all your articles, but this one really got me thinking, especially some of the comments.
It is my belief, that the Bible can be a great teacher. It is full of stories of selfless acts, and how to treat one another, and there are good morals to be found. But, it is also a book that has many bad ideas in it. Like, slaughtering people because they believe in a different religion, killing all babies because one might grow up into a powerful king, or say damning someone for an infinite amount of time, for a finite sin.
Anyways, to find the good stories, some of them take more thinking. They take reading between the lines, understanding the bigger picture, and an open mind. So these are all good things. Sadly, the Bible also teaches that we should follow without question, believe without proof. So, in my mind, that is a teaching that tells you not to question things, and to not look for deeper meaning. It tells you to “have faith” that everything will be ok. So, if you just believe everything in the Bible unquestioning, and follow it to the letter, there are some terrible things that you will learn. Like, check out Leviticus chapter 20. Thats got some good things that people can be killed for *sarcasm*
So, all in all, I think that the Bible can be a teacher of great good, or great evil. It all depends on the interpretation. Yet, in order to find the good, you have to dig deep. And the Bible doesn’t encourage thinking for yourself. So, in my mind, there are much better ways to learn proper morals, and how to treat others.
Tyler J said on 11.17.2010
The bible is one of many ancient books that speak about god. All religions believe in a greater good, is it not too crazy to think that its all the same thing? Seems reasonable to me. Allah, God, Same thing in different languages. Jesus can be compared to Buddha and Muhammad, all three of which were the divine prophets for their religion. I dont know the stats but im pretty sure there are more Islamic and Buddhist people than Christians. Who is to say that one belief is better than the other? Especially when all beliefs are by and large the same. Do you know what happens after you die? nope. Neither do I..
James BAR said on 11.27.2010
@Tyler J
Hello! Nice to meet you. I wanted to address some of the things you said in once of your previous post’s, that while well intentioned can be misleading and are (I believe) a reduction of pronounced diversity across the globe.
“All religions believe in a greater good” The same religion you mention later does not in fact believe in ‘Good over Evil”, but rather a unity of beings. This to some would be called an “Eastern” religion, Buddhism. The implicit opposition of East is West, where I would hesitate to assume that you live (I live here too). Ours is a system characterized by oppositional binaries (good v. bad, east v. west, conservative v. liberal, winner v. loser, etc…) with a higher valuation placed on the ‘good’ (whatever that is).
This gets to one of my personal problems with Christianity. We Christians (by choice or heritage) according to our Bible don’t pretend to understand Gods ‘good’ ways. (Tsunami hits, God works in mysterious ways). However, Evil is glazed over as all encompassing, not able to be misinterpreted Evil. This reduction is the most egregious, because if we allow ourselves to perceive ourselves as inherently Sinful (read: Original Sin) then we can’t do anything about it. This is where us ‘Westerners’ can take notes on ‘Eastern’ philosophy.
I like what you had to say afterwards, “Do you know what happens after you die?” I think thats a big difference in a lot of people. I know I don’t either, but why do some people think they’ve got guaranteeable proof of the afterlife? I think its up to us (humans) to realize that preoccupations with things that we have no real control over (life, death) are just distractions from something else, something that isn’t black and white. My parents taught me life isn’t fair, and I feel that when I look at myself. But looking at the lives of those around me, I find myself saying ‘wow she deserved that internship’ or ‘he worked hard for that nice coat’. Besides those small things, there are so many more ‘Karmic’ actions that we participate in un-knowingly that I would guesstimate even out in a generation or 10. Though… I guess that begs the question what about abortion, or still births, or people who never got a chance? Those things are unfair. But, opposite side of the same coin; there are some people who we also say never deserved a chance at life (read:Hitler, Genghis, Saddam, Noriega etc.) and still got it. Who are we to choose who gets a chance at life? Those still born babies could be the worst killer we never knew, or the prophet we always needed.
To take an evolutionary standpoint, these goods and evils are possibly just genetic variations. If worldly conditions had a need for a violent destructive force it would exist. Its not fair to the sickly gazelle who can’t keep pace with the herd, and the herd may mourn its loss, but life continues. The lions appreciate the chance to raise healthy cubs, and the cycle evolves and repeats. In my opinion, it just matters that life continues. I hope humans can figure our relationship to the world soon, I am not sure how sustainable our current ways of life are in relation to one another. Then again, our corner of the universe is probably < .000000000000001% of whats out there. Regardless of how it ends, we are sure to have a very interesting history.
P.S. Jordan, I am a huge fan of your site! I love each article, the amount of consciousness you put into each one is refreshing. My partner is skeptical of your sleeping habits however, she thinks its dangerous to tinker with stuff like that. Should I let that stop me from trying it out this summer? Is ‘everyman schedule’ just a euphemism?
Keep up the ‘good’ work.
Tyler J said on 11.28.2010
Nice to meet you also. Its nice to get a good in depth response about this kind of stuff. I suppose when I say “greater good” I really just mean a higher being, something larger than yourself. Like you say, Nobody has the ability to decide what is right or wrong, good or bad. So “good” was a bad word to use in my previous post. I wont pretend to know answers to anything, because I dont. But perhaps the stillborn babies are the lucky ones, because they dont have to live here in fear of tomorrow. I know that Im not personally worried about the future, but I can tell that everyone else is. As far as Christianity goes, Im not very impressed. I grew up in a good ol’ southern methodist church being fed that I will never be able to get past my sin and singing really old songs for my entire childhood. Since leaving home three years ago, I havent been to a church, but I feel much closer to the truth than ever before.
Now im not going against you here but is claiming something fair or unfair not the same as saying its good or bad? Suppose a poor kid and a rich kid ask for the same toy for christmas. The rich kid gets the toy and spends all day playing with it while the poor kid’s parents couldnt afford the toy so he spends time with his family or playing with friends. If the poor kid saw the other with the toy that he wanted, he would think it unfair. I would say that the toy-less child had a much higher quality christmas than the one who wasted the day away playing with his new toy. Bad example I know, but tis the season.
Again, thanks for the consideration James BAR. Good luck.
Jared said on 11.19.2010
I think the important thing here is the body of this post. There is no need to focus on one person’s particular views toward Christianity. Focus instead on the application of new ideas in your mind.
Nice post. Can’t wait for more. :-)
Tyler J said on 11.19.2010
We cannot forget that Conversations with God is a book that a man wrote also. The same as the bible. Maybe that shows that we should look into ourself to find the truth. It wont be words, colors, numbers, MONEY, names, or labels. It will just be whatever it is. Or will it just be nothing?
Nina said on 11.23.2010
How many of you have actually read the bible? Just out of curiosity.. It’s the most violent fiction I’ve read in a good while!
Peter Cowen said on 11.27.2010
This was a brilliant article, it is slightly ironic that most of the commentary hasn’t been related to that. I’m sure that didn’t stop people reading it of course!
I think the responses to the commentary are very generous. I personally won’t apologise for trying to beat religion into an intellectual corner. In Christianity, particularly in the West, we have been able to stifle its fundamental aspects and reduced the harm and division it can create in society. Divisions sometimes between people of the same faith, it was not so very long ago in the North of England where in certain areas you couldn’t get a job if you were Catholic or vice versa. Similarly, the peoples of the Middle East, North Africa and Southern Asia need to marginalise and shackle Islam and allow secular free societies to flourish. Religion cannot be allowed the freedom to claim temporal authority, to write laws, to make legal judgements but mainly that they aren’t allowed to dictate social norms and create division. People who claim to know the mind of God and his will on Earth are dangerous individuals.
On a personal level if people find peace in religion I do not wish to deny that to them or attack them personally, but I think we tread a fine line between value and vice with religion. It is comforting and provides rooting, permanence and the feeling of being a part of something (comforting but ultimately, won’t lead to enlightenment or authenticism) but then for others it becomes a part of a greater thing, usually a patriarchal structure and the tool which people use to dominate.
Just my ruminations on the topic anyway. Great post overall!
Cem said on 12.05.2010
Read Bhagavad-gita. It will be an answer to all your questions. It is the most ancient book that is spoken by God. It’s about 5000 years old. Everything you are searching for is in this book
Lance Marchetti said on 12.12.2010
“Read Bhagavad-gita. It will be an answer to all your questions…”
ONLY ONE MISTAKE IS ENOUGH TO PROVE THAT VEDA IS NOT A BOOK OF GOD
1-The moon is 50,000 leagues higher than the sun.
2- Moon shines by its own light.
3- night is caused by the sun’s setting behind a huge mountain.
4- several thousand feet high, sun located in the centre of the earth.
5- that this world, flat and triangular.
6- world is composed of 7 states one of honey, another of sugar, a third of butter, and still another of wine,
7- the whole mass is borne on the heads of countless elephants, which in shaking produce earthquakes.”
Oops!
Scientific Facts in the Bible (from livingwaters dot com)
1. Only in recent years has science discovered that everything we see is composed of invisible atoms. Here, Scripture tells us that the “things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.”
2. Medical science has only recently discovered that blood-clotting in a newborn reaches its peak on the eighth day, then drops. The Bible consistently says that a baby must be circumcised on the eighth day.
3. At a time when it was believed that the earth sat on a large animal or a giant (1500 B.C.), the Bible spoke of the earth’s free float in space: “He…hangs the earth upon nothing” (Job 26:7).
4. The prophet Isaiah also tells us that the earth is round: “It is he that sits upon the circle of the earth” (Isaiah 40:22). This is not a reference to a flat disk, as some skeptic maintain, but to a sphere. Secular man discovered this 2,400 years later. At a time when science believed that the earth was flat, is was the Scriptures that inspired Christopher Columbus to sail around the world (see Proverbs 3:6 footnote).
5. God told Job in 1500 B.C.: “Can you send lightnings, that they may go, and say to you, Here we are?” (Job 38:35). The Bible here is making what appears to be a scientifically ludicrous statement—that light can be sent, and then manifest itself in speech. But did you know that radio waves travel at the speed of light? This is why you can have instantaneous wireless communication with someone on the other side of the earth. Science didn’t discover this until 1864 when “British scientist James Clerk Maxwell suggested that electricity and light waves were two forms of the same thing” (Modern Century Illustrated Encyclopedia).
6. Job 38:19 asks, “Where is the way where light dwells?” Modern man has only recently discovered that light (electromagnetic radiation) has a “way,” traveling at 186,000 miles per second.
7. Science has discovered that stars emit radio waves, which are received on earth as a high pitch. God mentioned this in Job 38:7: “When the morning stars sang together…”
8. “Most cosmologists (scientists who study the structures and evolution of the universe) agree that the Genesis account of creation, in imagining an initial void, may be uncannily close to the truth” (Time, Dec. 1976).
9. Solomon described a “cycle” of air currents two thousand years before scientists “discovered” them. “The wind goes toward the south, and turns about unto the north; it whirls about continually, and the wind returns again according to his circuits” (Ecclesiastes 1:6).
10. Science expresses the universe in five terms: time, space, matter, power, and motion. Genesis 1:1,2 revealed such truths to the Hebrews in 1450 B.C.: “In the beginning [time] God created [power] the heaven [space] and the earth [matter] . . . And the Spirit of God moved [motion] upon the face of the waters.” The first thing God tells man is that He controls of all aspects of the universe.
11. The great biological truth concerning the importance of blood in our body’s mechanism has been fully comprehended only in recent years. Up until 120 years ago, sick people were “bled,” and many died because of the practice. If you lose your blood, you lose your life. Yet Leviticus 17:11, written 3,000 years ago, declared that blood is the source of life: “For the life of the flesh is in the blood.”
12. All things were made by Him (see John 1:3), including dinosaurs. Why then did the dinosaur disappear? The answer may be in Job 40:15–24. In this passage, God speaks about a great creature called “behemoth.” Some commentators think this was a hippopotamus. However, the hippo’s tail isn’t like a large tree, but a small twig. Following are the characteristics of this huge animal: It was the largest of all the creatures God made; was plant-eating (herbivorous); had its strength in its hips and a tail like a large tree. It had very strong bones, lived among the trees, drank massive amounts of water, and was not disturbed by a raging river. He appears impervious to attack because his nose could pierce through snares, but Scripture says, “He that made him can make his sword to approach unto him.” In other words, God caused this, the largest of all the creatures He had made, to become extinct.
13. Encyclopedia Britannica documents that in 1845, a young doctor in Vienna named Dr. Ignaz Semmelweis was horrified at the terrible death rate of women who gave birth in hospitals. As many as 30 percent died after giving birth. Semmelweis noted that doctors would examine the bodies of patients who died, then, without washing their hands, go straight to the next ward and examine expectant mothers. This was their normal practice, because the presence of microscopic diseases was unknown. Semmelweis insisted that doctors wash their hands before examinations, and the death rate immediately dropped to 2 percent. Look at the specific instructions God gave His people for when they encounter disease: “And when he that has an issue is cleansed of his issue; then he shall number to himself even days for his cleansing, and wash his clothes, and bathe his flesh in running water, and shall be clean” (Leviticus 15:13). Until recent years, doctors washed their hands in a bowl of water, leaving invisible germs on their hands. However, the Bible says specifically to wash hands under “running water.”
14. Luke 17:34–36 says the Second Coming of Jesus Christ will occur while some are asleep at night and others are working at daytime activities in the field. This is a clear indication of a revolving earth, with day and night at the same time.
15. “During the devastating Black Death of the fourteenth century, patients who were sick or dead were kept in the same rooms as the rest of the family. People often wondered why the disease was affecting so many people at one time. They attributed these epidemics to ‘bad air’ or ‘evil spirits.’ However, careful attention to the medical commands of God as revealed in Leviticus would have saved untold millions of lives. Arturo Castiglione wrote about the overwhelming importance of this biblical medical law: ‘The laws against leprosyin Leviticus 13 may be regarded as the first model of sanitary legislation’ (A History of Medicine).” Grant R. Jeffery, The Signature of God With all these truths revealed in Scripture,how could a thinking person deny that the Bible is supernatural in origin? There is no other book in any of the world’s religions (Vedas, Bhagavad-Gita, Koran, Book of Mormon, etc.) that contains scientific truth. In fact, they contain statements that are clearly unscientific.
Faith in Christ is not some blind leap into a dark chasm, but a faith based on established evidence.
Cheers!
Brian said on 12.24.2010
Well , I was going to point out all the rather obvious holes in your statements, but instead I’ll just do the the bible what you did to another persons holy book.
“ONLY ONE MISTAKE IS ENOUGH TO PROVE THAT VEDA IS NOT A BOOK OF GOD”
And the bible contains how many mistakes exactly ? By your own condemnation, the bible is not a book of god.
Brian said on 12.24.2010
Screw it I’m going to do it anyway.
“1. Only in recent years has science discovered that everything we see is composed of invisible atoms. Here, Scripture tells us that the “things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.”
- Okay, so you are taking this one line from the bible, which makes a general statement, and applying it to the discovery of subatomic particles ? Maybe I think he’s talking about the wind ? Maybe I think he’s talking about gravity ? Maybe I think he’s talking about literally any single other thing in the universe that isn’t immediately seen. Your passage from the bible makes absolutely no mention of what it’s really talking about, but you have decided to take it and call science. I’m sorry. It’s not. You are using a quote from the bible to further your arguement about the bible, that is known as a strawman arguement.
I will also further reiterate, the bible was written by a man. Not god. God did not write the bible, nowhere in the bible does it mention that god is doing the writing.
“2.Medical science has only recently discovered that blood-clotting in a newborn reaches its peak on the eighth day, then drops. The Bible consistently says that a baby must be circumcised on the eighth day.”
Another gem. Okay, so the bible says you should circumsize a child (A completely unesscecary medical procedure) on the 8th day. Thats it. It doesnt tell you have to do it because of the bloodclotting, or because of any other scientific or medical reason, just that it has to be done on the 8th day. This is your argument for the bible having true science in it ? Seriously ? That’s just the same as saying well the bible had sheep in it, so they must have known about cloning.
“3.At a time when it was believed that the earth sat on a large animal or a giant (1500 B.C.), the Bible spoke of the earth’s free float in space: “He…hangs the earth upon nothing” (Job 26:7).”
No. Wrong. Incorrect. The bible did not speak about the earth free floating in anything, in the quote does it mention space , does it mention the position of the earth, or the rotation of the earth, or in fact any scientific things about the earth at all ? No. It does not. It says he hangs the earth upon nothing, which could mean freaking anything !!!! Again, you are taking a part of the bible and seeing it the way you want to see it to give it scientific merit. (Aside from the idea that the story of Job is about a man living in a giant fish, not a whale, a giant fish)
“4.The prophet Isaiah also tells us that the earth is round: “It is he that sits upon the circle of the earth” (Isaiah 40:22). This is not a reference to a flat disk, as some skeptic maintain, but to a sphere. Secular man discovered this 2,400 years later. At a time when science believed that the earth was flat, is was the Scriptures that inspired Christopher Columbus to sail around the world (see Proverbs 3:6 footnote).”
Again. No, he doesn’t tell us the earth is round. He mentions “upon the the circle of the earth” do you have any freaking idea how many circles are on earth ? Any idea at all ? Again, you are taking a general statement, and indicating that it references a very speciffic scientific fact. Which it does not. You say it references a sphere.. but no. It doesnt say that either. Did you even read the quote you posted ? Does it say sphere ? No. It doesn’t. You wanting it to say sphere, or to mean sphere, doesn’t change the fact that it doesn’t.
“5.God told Job in 1500 B.C.: “Can you send lightnings, that they may go, and say to you, Here we are?” (Job 38:35). The Bible here is making what appears to be a scientifically ludicrous statement—that light can be sent, and then manifest itself in speech. But did you know that radio waves travel at the speed of light? This is why you can have instantaneous wireless communication with someone on the other side of the earth. Science didn’t discover this until 1864 when “British scientist James Clerk Maxwell suggested that electricity and light waves were two forms of the same thing” (Modern Century Illustrated Encyclopedia).
Again, a failure to read the quote. HE IS ASKING A QUESTION. He is not making a statement of fact, he is not purporting it to mean anything, he is asking a question, not quantifying a statement of fact. And light, cannot do a god damn thing. Light. Does not transmit sound, radio waves do. And radio waves, are useless without a way to receive them, which Im sorry to say, was not in the bible.
“6.Job 38:19 asks, “Where is the way where light dwells?” Modern man has only recently discovered that light (electromagnetic radiation) has a “way,” traveling at 186,000 miles per second.”
Again. The guy is asking a question about light. Not giving a statement of scientific fact. Are you trying to say that because the writing in the bible mentions light, thats scientific fact ? Of course people knew about light, they did have a day time…
“7.Science has discovered that stars emit radio waves, which are received on earth as a high pitch. God mentioned this in Job 38:7: “When the morning stars sang together…””
No. He did not. When the morning stars sang together, does not indicate anything about radio waves, or emiting them, or anything of the sort. Again, you applying scientific principle to a statement that simply doesn’t mention it. If you want to use a quote as proof of a scientific fact, that quote must at the very least, mention the thing it is attempting to prove. In this case it mentions when stars sang together. Well , they don’t sing. Singing requires vocal cords, not just radio waves, it also doesn’t mention they send out radio waves, stars also don’t send radio waves “together” in any way shape or form.
8.” “Most cosmologists (scientists who study the structures and evolution of the universe) agree that the Genesis account of creation, in imagining an initial void, may be uncannily close to the truth” (Time, Dec. 1976).”
Ok, so because the very start of genesis, where it mentions the fact that there is nothing, is somehow akin to scientific fact(which is not, as we still don’t know) Again. This is not science. Creationism, is not science.
9.”Solomon described a “cycle” of air currents two thousand years before scientists “discovered” them. “The wind goes toward the south, and turns about unto the north; it whirls about continually, and the wind returns again according to his circuits” (Ecclesiastes 1:6).
Are you really trying to say that because the bible mentions “Wind” (Something that everyone knew about at this time) it’s proof that the bible had the science down ? Egyptians were known to use wind power in a lot of their construction.. and they came a hell of a lot earlier than the bible ever did.
10. ” Science expresses the universe in five terms: time, space, matter, power, and motion. Genesis 1:1,2 revealed such truths to the Hebrews in 1450 B.C.: “In the beginning [time] God created [power] the heaven [space] and the earth [matter] . . . And the Spirit of God moved [motion] upon the face of the waters.” The first thing God tells man is that He controls of all aspects of the universe.”
First off. Motion is not a fundamental part of the universe, so that’s out. You are also giving the quote your own definitions, and using them to make it fit your argument.. again, known as a strawman argument. Power, is also not a fundamental part of the universe, so I’m not sure where you science is coming from.
The last few .. I don’t think I really even need to touch on those. The dinosaurs are dead because god killed them ? Riight. Oh no wait, thats actually just the giant super hippo (That I noticed there was no scripture for) and because god apparently made, and can kill this super hippo, that means god created everything, and thus destroyed the dinosaurs.
This is a website about challenging the norm, and not excepting the spoon fed answers the world wants to give you.
Trying to use the bible as basis for science.. is well, it’s just plain stupid.
Tucker Warner said on 03.27.2011
Definitely gonna pick this book up. Sounds like a good read.
To address the God question. Here is an approach to dwell on.
Knowledge is a way for which us to obtain truth. The more we know, the better we are figuring out the truth. Knowledge is based off the senses (sight, smell, etc…). We can only obtain knowledge through how we perceive the world. We use other functions such as memory, inference, reasoning, and introspection. But most of this is based off of our senses in the first place.
Taking of what we know of knowledge, there becomes a problem with God. There is no way to perceive God. If there is no way to perceive God, then how can we truly know that God exists.
Just something to think about.
Cristina R said on 04.04.2011
These quotes give me the chills. I’m having them tattooed to my forehead.
Shaye Laree said on 04.29.2011
Brian seems very switched on here! I encourage any religious folk to look into some quantum physics! the “what the bleep do we know” movie is a good starting point :) peace
Jimelle said on 11.15.2011
Love these CwG quotes. After reading the book, I’ve wished so many times that I had read this when I was about ten. As a child, I instinctively knew that many of the things I was being taught didn’t make a lot of sense, but didn’t have the proper vocabulary to express my skepticism. Number 2, especially, would have been very useful, although I would have been told to ‘stop questioning what I don’t understand’…which is hilarious when you think about it.
Anyway, thanks for sharing these. It’s been a long time since I read the book, but I think it’s time for a refresher:)
gabriela said on 11.20.2011
Religious or not. Bible or not. God or not. “Love is all there is.”
Steve said on 12.15.2011
Is there something contradictory with quote 9?
Shouldn’t we just expect the best and forget the rest? I live my life everyday with the expectation that great things are going to show up in my life. I walk in that freedom knowing that things will flow well.
I am from a religious background as well. I always hear people say what I just said in this way: I live my life everyday with the expectation that God is going to show up and do great things.
Just a thought.