HighExistence is a community of conscious individuals centered around pondering, exploring & expanding this wondrous experience called life -- See the Mission »

10 EPIC Quotes from “Conversations With God”

1828

“Conversations With God: An Uncommon Dialogue” by Neal Walsh is one of my favorite books of all time, hands down. It is written from the point of view of god (but it’s not religion, so don’t scoff quite yet) telling man how he should live his life. I like to think of it as god’s hypothetical edits to the incredibly skewed, modern interpretation of the ‘The Bible.’ These are my ten favorite quotes from the book that I read every morning:

1“Go ahead an do what you really love to do! Do nothing else! You have so little time. How can you think of wasting a moment doing something for a living you don’t like to do? What kind of a living is that? That is not a living, that is a dying!”

2“You are making a mockery of Me. You are saying that I, God, made inherently imperfect beings, then have demanded of them to be perfect, or face damnation. You are saying then that, somewhere several thousand years into the world’s experience, I relented, saying that from then on you didn’t necessarily have to be good, you simply had to feel bad when you were not being good, and accept as your savior the One Being who could always be perfect, thus satisfying My hunger for perfection. You are saying that My Son–who you call the One Perfect One–has saved you from your own imperfection–the imperfection that I gave you. In other words, God’s Son has saved you from what His Father did.”

3“There is no coincidence, and nothing happens ‘by accident.’ Each event and adventure is called to your Self by your Self in order that  you might create and experience Who You Really Are.  All that is required is to know this. For you are the creator of your own reality, and life can show up in no other way for you than the way in which you think it will.”

4“The purpose of a relationship is not to have another who might complete you; but to have another with whom you might share your completeness.”

5“The laws are very simple: 1. Thought is creative. 2. Fear attracts like energy. 3. Love is all there is.”

6“Heaven–as you call it–is nowhere. Let’s just put some space between the w and the h in that word and you’ll that heaven is now…here.”

7“Know and understand that there will be challenges and difficult times. Don’t try to avoid them. Welcome them. Gratefully. Cultivate the technique of seeing all problems as opportunities. Opportunities to…be, an decide, Who You Really Are.”

8“If you want guarantees in life, then you don’t want life. You want rehearsals for a script that’s already been written. Life by its nature cannot have guarantees, or its whole purpose is thwarted.”

9“To live your life without expectation–without the need for specific results–that is freedom. That is Godliness.”

10“Never resist anything. If you think that by your resistance you will eliminate it, think again. You only plant is more firmly in place. Have I not told you that all thought is creative?”

  • 104

STAY UPDATED ON HIGH EXISTENCE

57 thoughts about 10 EPIC Quotes from “Conversations With God”

  1. Dude said on 11.12.2010

    I belive in God, and I do because there is so many things in our universe that ain’t possible to explain with sience. Can you give me some reasons telling me why i shuldn’t be a christian?

    Still love your site ;D

    • Jordan said on 11.16.2010

      Haha I had no idea the response to this article would be targeted towards the first paragraph. I know better than to try to tell a religion man why he shouldn’t be religious! I hate it when people try to convert me so I’ll save you the same frustration :)

    • well dude u say that there are many things out in the universe that cant be explained by science, who knows mayb it is God but what humans are just saying “fuck it i give up” and make up a God who created that thing we can’t explain at the moment, early civilizations specifically Egypt had Gods for everything they could not explain if it didn’t rain and they weren’t able to make a good harvest they believed tat the God of rain was angry at them and they would make sacrifices to try to please that God. What if right now we can’t prove it possible because we don’t have the technology or can’t think of how to prove it so we believe that God created it just because we can’t prove it.

    • Brian said on 12.24.2010

      God is one awnser to the questions we have.

      The difference is, christians believe god is the only awnser, while the rest of us, don’t make so bold of a claim.

      • Soraya said on 09.09.2012

        I don’t think that all Christians are this way. It’s wrong to generalize people like that only because their beliefs are a little different than ours. Why does believing in God mean that you can’t also believe in Science? Is there no way to connect both?

        • Soraya, The real question you may be asking, “Why can’t creationists also believe in evolution?”

          Simply put, because science shows us that the Earth created US. Not vice versa.

          Creationists believe in the literal translation of books like The Holy Bible. Meaning that God would have had to create millions of years of evidence that we were not created as Human beings. It would mean that God created fossils just to trick us. Then he made Adam. We know that if God is real, he would not have done that because that is ridiculous. That is why believing in traditional God does not sit well with science. Evolution is life itself.

          • I think the problem is that humans try to make a God of what they think He is… No one could rationalize like Him, so whatever we might think about Him or what He have done is little compared to what it is reality…
            Besides, you generalize christians, saying that they are all creationists and that we don’t believe in science. I believe science will prove that everything was created by God. Evolution theory has a lot of gaps… if you don’t believe me read the articles from http://www.intelligentdesign.org/ :)

    • There is a critical distinction to the Christian religion that sets it apart from other faiths, which is the bedrock that my faith is based on. It is this: God is a person. Whatever that means (and I don’t think there’s any way we can quite grasp it while we’re here), it says something profoundly beautiful about reality. Here’s a quote from a book by a neurosurgeon who had an NDE and experienced God (Dr. Eben Alexander, “Proof of Heaven”):

      “One of the biggest mistakes people make when they think about God is to imagine God as impersonal. Yes, God is behind the numbers, the perfection of the universe that science measures and struggles to understand. But-again, paradoxically-Om is “human” as well- even more human than you and I are. Om understands and sympathizes with our human situation more profoundly and personally than we can even imagine because Om knows what we have forgotten, and understands the terrible burden it is to live with amnesia of the Divine for even a moment.”

    • A better questions is, “Why should you be a Christian?” The answers to that question are what led me away from “Christianity” and towards being like what Christian is supposed to mean, which is bigger than a word, bigger than a religion, big as the whole damn universe, all that ever was and will be.

      Dogma is the stagnant enlightenment of the centuries past, seek new enlightenment. Christ is said to be God’s only son, yet we are all supposed to be God’s children. Trust that someone has made some egregious translation errors and just seek Truth and Love, unless you believe there is a higher calling than those ideas, or that a just God might punish you for such a thing.

    • If I believe that God do exist and whatever happens is because of God. Then after seeing so many deadly incidents around me, I’ll only say one thing to your God “FUCK YOU” and if I live in my reality and realise that there is no God that there is no evil, then i’ll surely change my statement and say, “I am an Agnostic” I don’t understand your God.

    • Pablo said on 06.05.2013

      If science were to eventually answer all of the mysteries of the universe, would God still be necessary?

      If Christianity (and all organized religion) has any integrity, I would argue, YES.

      This is because God is not meant to be the final say on anything. He is a representation of the human need for faith and comfort. He is a lightning rod to attract the lost, the confused, and the pained who can then gather and say: really we just want others who will blindly walk through this life with us and believe, “Things will be OK.”

      So what if that means they have to believe it is because of an omnipotent being, or because the power of Zen practically says that life can never be a failure if you accept that you all the power in the world while simultaneously being powerless.

      At the end of the day, faith will always have a place in society because even when we know all of the answers (whether it is due to God, science, or some other reason we maybe cannot even comprehend) it will still be mysterious as to why these answers are the answers. And what ultimate question is supposed to be answered; and why?

  2. Vio said on 11.13.2010

    A really nice way to start your day by reading these quotes :D

  3. As open minded as I found most of the articles to be, I was surprised when you refer to the Bible as B.S.

    • As was I… The Bible is like a full pan of a 19th century gold prospector- From an outside view, it’s full of dirt and mud, but those who study it may find gold within.
       

      • Jordan said on 11.16.2010

        I love that metaphor, Kratody. I admit that I am very biased against Christianity and religion in general because I grew up with my father being a pastor. I’ve seen the problems and hurt that it can cause so it was easy to forget that it is gold to some people.

        • Alex said on 05.01.2011

          My philosophy is don’t be “religious” and don’t think that if you find one thing in the Bible or that a Christian tells you that you disagree with that you have to toss the whole thing. Believe what you believe and don’t let anyone tell you you have to fit perfectly into a group and follow everything they say and do. I feel I have a good, spiritual, personal relationship with God, and honestly I disagree with some things in the Bible, but I definitely don’t believe that’s going to send me to burn in hell. After all the Bible was written by men, interpreting what they think God wants. Some of it I agree with and some I don’t. No point in arguing about the “science” in the Bible, regarding the fact it was written thousands of years ago. But I do have to admit some of it is dead on, like the earth being round quote Lance mentioned up there.

  4. Erica said on 11.14.2010

    This is a great article, but I have to say, reading Conversations with God taught me that the Bible is not BS. It taught me that the words can be interpreted many ways and that humans are the ones who turn it into bullshit. The Bible can be viewed as flawed or even evil, but from a different perspective it is a beautiful book that encourages growth and truth and love. The Bible has inconsistencies, and cannot always be taken literally, but it also contains many truths.

    • Jordan said on 11.16.2010

      Well said, Erica. Like I said to @Kratoyd, I’m a bit biased against religion but I completely agree with what you said. Even I have a lot of learning to do with being open-minded :)

      • Kevin said on 11.17.2010

        In response to this, I would love to see an article on here about perception and the impact of what people expect to think on what they in turn think.  I believe that there is so much about conversations, learning, knowledge, and so much more that is subject to a person’s perspective and will essentially skew or simply explain why somebody believes what they do.  This is a very intriguing topic and has a lot of room for discussion and debate.  I would love to see what you and your followers think about it and what other research or articles you can find on it.  I will certainly be doing the same.  Love the site, keep ‘em coming!

    • Jack said on 05.14.2012

      Agreed!

      Except I learnt first from Pulp Fiction that the bible actually has some good shit in it hahaha.

    • tacky said on 05.23.2013

      The Bible can be viewed as flawed or even evil… Thank you Erica for this comforting thought.

  5. The bible, is a series of books. Books written by men. When you believe in the bible, you are not beleving in the content of the book, but in the idea that the MAN who wrote that book of the bible was telling the truth.

    It’s funny how now a days when people say god talks to them, we think they are crazy. Yet millions of people are willing to accept this very idea, because the men in question wrote it down.

    • This is a very good point. Even God says to Neale that it will take a few hundred or thousand years before people see the CWG series as credible. Religious people get very touchy about when others speak of God in a spiritual sense. The fact is this is fear. No one wants the whole concept of what they believe life is about to be challenged. I know myself that I become very sensitive even defensive when people challenge my beliefs. This is something I am working on. Its that fear of losing faith in what you believe in, when you lose faith, you lose hope and who wants to feel hopeless. That’s why people come together and form religions so they can be reassured by one another that what they believe is true. It takes courage to hold onto your beliefs amidst those with opposing views. To not need anyone to reassure you that you are right.

  6. Brian said on 11.14.2010

    The bible is a series of books. All of the books in the bible, were written by a man.

    For anyone who believes in the bible, you are believing that the person who originally wrote each book in that bible , was telling the truth.

    God is a concept, a concept created by man. How else would you know about god if it wasn’t for the bible ?

    It’s funny that today, if someone said they were talking directly to god, and that god commanded them to write a book, we’d think they were crazy. Yet millions of people are willing to believe that men they have never met, and know nothing about, were telling the truth when they wrote their particular books of the bible.

    You aren’t believing in god, you are beleving in the concept of god as written by men.

  7. Bryan said on 11.17.2010

    I’ve never really commented here, even though I’ve read all your articles, but this one really got me thinking, especially some of the comments.
    It is my belief, that the Bible can be a great teacher.  It is full of stories of selfless acts, and how to treat one another, and there are good morals to be found.  But, it is also a book that has many bad ideas in it.  Like, slaughtering people because they believe in a different religion, killing all babies because one might grow up into a powerful king, or say damning someone for an infinite amount of time, for a finite sin.
    Anyways, to find the good stories, some of them take more thinking.  They take reading between the lines, understanding the bigger picture, and an open mind.  So these are all good things.  Sadly, the Bible also teaches that we should follow without question, believe without proof.  So, in my mind, that is a teaching that tells you not to question things, and to not look for deeper meaning.  It tells you to “have faith” that everything will be ok.  So, if you just believe everything in the Bible unquestioning, and follow it to the letter, there are some terrible things that you will learn.  Like, check out Leviticus chapter 20.  Thats got some good things that people can be killed for *sarcasm*
    So, all in all, I think that the Bible can be a teacher of great good, or great evil.  It all depends on the interpretation.  Yet, in order to find the good, you have to dig deep. And the Bible doesn’t encourage thinking for yourself.  So, in my mind, there are much better ways to learn proper morals, and how to treat others.

  8. The bible is one of many ancient books that speak about god. All religions believe in a greater good, is it not too crazy to think that its all the same thing? Seems reasonable to me. Allah, God, Same thing in different languages. Jesus can be compared to Buddha and Muhammad, all three of which were the divine prophets for their religion. I dont know the stats but im pretty sure there are more Islamic and Buddhist people than Christians. Who is to say that one belief is better than the other? Especially when all beliefs are by and large the same. Do you know what happens after you die? nope. Neither do I..

    • @Tyler J
      Hello! Nice to meet you. I wanted to address some of the things you said in once of your previous post’s, that while well intentioned can be misleading and are (I believe) a reduction of pronounced diversity across the globe.
      “All religions believe in a greater good” The same religion you mention later does not in fact believe in ‘Good over Evil”, but rather a unity of beings. This to some would be called an “Eastern” religion, Buddhism. The implicit opposition of East is West, where I would hesitate to assume that you live (I live here too). Ours is a system characterized by oppositional binaries (good v. bad, east v. west, conservative v. liberal, winner v. loser, etc…) with a higher valuation placed on the ‘good’ (whatever that is).
      This gets to one of my personal problems with Christianity. We Christians (by choice or heritage) according to our Bible don’t pretend to understand Gods ‘good’ ways. (Tsunami hits, God works in mysterious ways). However, Evil is glazed over as all encompassing, not able to be misinterpreted Evil. This reduction is the most egregious, because if we allow ourselves to perceive ourselves as inherently Sinful (read: Original Sin) then we can’t do anything about it. This is where us ‘Westerners’ can take notes on ‘Eastern’ philosophy.
      I like what you had to say afterwards, “Do you know what happens after you die?” I think thats a big difference in a lot of people. I know I don’t either, but why do some people think they’ve got guaranteeable proof of the afterlife? I think its up to us (humans) to realize that preoccupations with things that we have no real control over (life, death) are just distractions from something else, something that isn’t black and white. My parents taught me life isn’t fair, and I feel that when I look at myself. But looking at the lives of those around me, I find myself saying ‘wow she deserved that internship’ or ‘he worked hard for that nice coat’. Besides those small things, there are so many more ‘Karmic’ actions that we participate in un-knowingly that I would guesstimate even out in a generation or 10. Though… I guess that begs the question what about abortion, or still births, or people who never got a chance? Those things are unfair. But, opposite side of the same coin; there are some people who we also say never deserved a chance at life (read:Hitler, Genghis, Saddam, Noriega etc.) and still got it. Who are we to choose who gets a chance at life? Those still born babies could be the worst killer we never knew, or the prophet we always needed.
      To take an evolutionary standpoint, these goods and evils are possibly just genetic variations. If worldly conditions had a need for a violent destructive force it would exist. Its not fair to the sickly gazelle who can’t keep pace with the herd, and the herd may mourn its loss, but life continues. The lions appreciate the chance to raise healthy cubs, and the cycle evolves and repeats. In my opinion, it just matters that life continues. I hope humans can figure our relationship to the world soon, I am not sure how sustainable our current ways of life are in relation to one another. Then again, our corner of the universe is probably < .000000000000001% of whats out there. Regardless of how it ends, we are sure to have a very interesting history.
      P.S. Jordan, I am a huge fan of your site! I love each article, the amount of consciousness you put into each one is refreshing. My partner is skeptical of your sleeping habits however, she thinks its dangerous to tinker with stuff like that. Should I let that stop me from trying it out this summer? Is ‘everyman schedule’ just a euphemism?
      Keep up the ‘good’ work.

      • Nice to meet you also. Its nice to get a good in depth response about this kind of stuff. I suppose when I say “greater good” I really just mean a higher being, something larger than yourself. Like you say, Nobody has the ability to decide what is right or wrong, good or bad. So “good” was a bad word to use in my previous post. I wont pretend to know answers to anything, because I dont. But perhaps the stillborn babies are the lucky ones, because they dont have to live here in fear of tomorrow. I know that Im not personally worried about the future, but I can tell that everyone else is. As far as Christianity goes, Im not very impressed. I grew up in a good ol’ southern methodist church being fed that I will never be able to get past my sin and singing really old songs for my entire childhood. Since leaving home three years ago, I havent been to a church, but I feel much closer to the truth than ever before.
        Now im not going against you here but is claiming something fair or unfair not the same as saying its good or bad? Suppose a poor kid and a rich kid ask for the same toy for christmas. The rich kid gets the toy and spends all day playing with it while the poor kid’s parents couldnt afford the toy so he spends time with his family or playing with friends. If the poor kid saw the other with the toy that he wanted, he would think it unfair. I would say that the toy-less child had a much higher quality christmas than the one who wasted the day away playing with his new toy. Bad example I know, but tis the season.
        Again, thanks for the consideration James BAR. Good luck.

  9. Jared said on 11.19.2010

    I think the important thing here is the body of this post. There is no need to focus on one person’s particular views toward Christianity. Focus instead on the application of new ideas in your mind.
    Nice post. Can’t wait for more. :-)

  10. We cannot forget that Conversations with God is a book that a man wrote also. The same as the bible. Maybe that shows that we should look into ourself to find the truth. It wont be words, colors, numbers, MONEY, names, or labels. It will just be whatever it is. Or will it just be nothing?

  11. Nina said on 11.23.2010

    How many of you have actually read the bible? Just out of curiosity.. It’s the most violent fiction I’ve read in a good while!

  12. This was a brilliant article, it is slightly ironic that most of the commentary hasn’t been related to that.  I’m sure that didn’t stop people reading it of course!
    I think the responses to the commentary are very generous.  I personally won’t apologise for trying to beat religion into an intellectual corner.  In Christianity, particularly in the West, we have been able to stifle its fundamental aspects and reduced the harm and division it can create in society.  Divisions sometimes between people of the same faith, it was not so very long ago in the North of England where in certain areas you couldn’t get a job if you were Catholic or vice versa.  Similarly, the peoples of the Middle East, North Africa and Southern Asia need to marginalise and shackle Islam and allow secular free societies to flourish.  Religion cannot be allowed the freedom to claim temporal authority, to write laws, to make legal judgements but mainly that they aren’t allowed to dictate social norms and create division.  People who claim to know the mind of God and his will on Earth are dangerous individuals.
    On a personal level if people find peace in religion I do not wish to deny that to them or attack them personally, but I think we tread a fine line between value and vice with religion.  It is comforting and provides rooting, permanence and the feeling of being a part of something (comforting but ultimately, won’t lead to enlightenment or authenticism) but then for others it becomes a part of a greater thing, usually a patriarchal structure and the tool which people use to dominate.
    Just my ruminations on the topic anyway.  Great post overall!
     

  13. Cem said on 12.05.2010

    Read Bhagavad-gita. It will be an answer to all your questions. It is the most ancient book that is spoken by God. It’s about 5000 years old. Everything you are searching for is in this book

  14. “Read Bhagavad-gita. It will be an answer to all your questions…”

    ONLY ONE MISTAKE IS ENOUGH TO PROVE THAT VEDA IS NOT A BOOK OF GOD
    1-The moon is 50,000 leagues higher than the sun.
    2- Moon shines by its own light.
    3- night is caused by the sun’s setting behind a huge mountain.
    4- several thousand feet high, sun located in the centre of the earth.
    5- that this world, flat and triangular.
    6- world is composed of 7 states one of honey, another of sugar, a third of butter, and still another of wine,
    7- the whole mass is borne on the heads of countless elephants, which in shaking produce earthquakes.”

    Oops!

    Scientific Facts in the Bible (from livingwaters dot com)

    1. Only in recent years has science discovered that everything we see is composed of invisible atoms. Here, Scripture tells us that the “things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.”

    2. Medical science has only recently discovered that blood-clotting in a newborn reaches its peak on the eighth day, then drops. The Bible consistently says that a baby must be circumcised on the eighth day.

    3. At a time when it was believed that the earth sat on a large animal or a giant (1500 B.C.), the Bible spoke of the earth’s free float in space: “He…hangs the earth upon nothing” (Job 26:7).

    4. The prophet Isaiah also tells us that the earth is round: “It is he that sits upon the circle of the earth” (Isaiah 40:22). This is not a reference to a flat disk, as some skeptic maintain, but to a sphere. Secular man discovered this 2,400 years later. At a time when science believed that the earth was flat, is was the Scriptures that inspired Christopher Columbus to sail around the world (see Proverbs 3:6 footnote).

    5. God told Job in 1500 B.C.: “Can you send lightnings, that they may go, and say to you, Here we are?” (Job 38:35). The Bible here is making what appears to be a scientifically ludicrous statement—that light can be sent, and then manifest itself in speech. But did you know that radio waves travel at the speed of light? This is why you can have instantaneous wireless communication with someone on the other side of the earth. Science didn’t discover this until 1864 when “British scientist James Clerk Maxwell suggested that electricity and light waves were two forms of the same thing” (Modern Century Illustrated Encyclopedia).

    6. Job 38:19 asks, “Where is the way where light dwells?” Modern man has only recently discovered that light (electromagnetic radiation) has a “way,” traveling at 186,000 miles per second.

    7. Science has discovered that stars emit radio waves, which are received on earth as a high pitch. God mentioned this in Job 38:7: “When the morning stars sang together…”

    8. “Most cosmologists (scientists who study the structures and evolution of the universe) agree that the Genesis account of creation, in imagining an initial void, may be uncannily close to the truth” (Time, Dec. 1976).

    9. Solomon described a “cycle” of air currents two thousand years before scientists “discovered” them. “The wind goes toward the south, and turns about unto the north; it whirls about continually, and the wind returns again according to his circuits” (Ecclesiastes 1:6).

    10. Science expresses the universe in five terms: time, space, matter, power, and motion. Genesis 1:1,2 revealed such truths to the Hebrews in 1450 B.C.: “In the beginning [time] God created [power] the heaven [space] and the earth [matter] . . . And the Spirit of God moved [motion] upon the face of the waters.” The first thing God tells man is that He controls of all aspects of the universe.

    11. The great biological truth concerning the importance of blood in our body’s mechanism has been fully comprehended only in recent years. Up until 120 years ago, sick people were “bled,” and many died because of the practice. If you lose your blood, you lose your life. Yet Leviticus 17:11, written 3,000 years ago, declared that blood is the source of life: “For the life of the flesh is in the blood.”

    12. All things were made by Him (see John 1:3), including dinosaurs. Why then did the dinosaur disappear? The answer may be in Job 40:15–24. In this passage, God speaks about a great creature called “behemoth.” Some commentators think this was a hippopotamus. However, the hippo’s tail isn’t like a large tree, but a small twig. Following are the characteristics of this huge animal: It was the largest of all the creatures God made; was plant-eating (herbivorous); had its strength in its hips and a tail like a large tree. It had very strong bones, lived among the trees, drank massive amounts of water, and was not disturbed by a raging river. He appears impervious to attack because his nose could pierce through snares, but Scripture says, “He that made him can make his sword to approach unto him.” In other words, God caused this, the largest of all the creatures He had made, to become extinct.

    13. Encyclopedia Britannica documents that in 1845, a young doctor in Vienna named Dr. Ignaz Semmelweis was horrified at the terrible death rate of women who gave birth in hospitals. As many as 30 percent died after giving birth. Semmelweis noted that doctors would examine the bodies of patients who died, then, without washing their hands, go straight to the next ward and examine expectant mothers. This was their normal practice, because the presence of microscopic diseases was unknown. Semmelweis insisted that doctors wash their hands before examinations, and the death rate immediately dropped to 2 percent. Look at the specific instructions God gave His people for when they encounter disease: “And when he that has an issue is cleansed of his issue; then he shall number to himself even days for his cleansing, and wash his clothes, and bathe his flesh in running water, and shall be clean” (Leviticus 15:13). Until recent years, doctors washed their hands in a bowl of water, leaving invisible germs on their hands. However, the Bible says specifically to wash hands under “running water.”

    14. Luke 17:34–36 says the Second Coming of Jesus Christ will occur while some are asleep at night and others are working at daytime activities in the field. This is a clear indication of a revolving earth, with day and night at the same time.

    15. “During the devastating Black Death of the fourteenth century, patients who were sick or dead were kept in the same rooms as the rest of the family. People often wondered why the disease was affecting so many people at one time. They attributed these epidemics to ‘bad air’ or ‘evil spirits.’ However, careful attention to the medical commands of God as revealed in Leviticus would have saved untold millions of lives. Arturo Castiglione wrote about the overwhelming importance of this biblical medical law: ‘The laws against leprosyin Leviticus 13 may be regarded as the first model of sanitary legislation’ (A History of Medicine).” Grant R. Jeffery, The Signature of God With all these truths revealed in Scripture,how could a thinking person deny that the Bible is supernatural in origin? There is no other book in any of the world’s religions (Vedas, Bhagavad-Gita, Koran, Book of Mormon, etc.) that contains scientific truth. In fact, they contain statements that are clearly unscientific.
    Faith in Christ is not some blind leap into a dark chasm, but a faith based on established evidence.

    Cheers!

    • Brian said on 12.24.2010

      Well , I was going to point out all the rather obvious holes in your statements, but instead I’ll just do the the bible what you did to another persons holy book.

      “ONLY ONE MISTAKE IS ENOUGH TO PROVE THAT VEDA IS NOT A BOOK OF GOD”

      And the bible contains how many mistakes exactly ? By your own condemnation, the bible is not a book of god.

  15. Brian said on 12.24.2010

    Screw it I’m going to do it anyway.

    “1. Only in recent years has science discovered that everything we see is composed of invisible atoms. Here, Scripture tells us that the “things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.”

    - Okay, so you are taking this one line from the bible, which makes a general statement, and applying it to the discovery of subatomic particles ? Maybe I think he’s talking about the wind ? Maybe I think he’s talking about gravity ? Maybe I think he’s talking about literally any single other thing in the universe that isn’t immediately seen. Your passage from the bible makes absolutely no mention of what it’s really talking about, but you have decided to take it and call science. I’m sorry. It’s not. You are using a quote from the bible to further your arguement about the bible, that is known as a strawman arguement.

    I will also further reiterate, the bible was written by a man. Not god. God did not write the bible, nowhere in the bible does it mention that god is doing the writing.

    “2.Medical science has only recently discovered that blood-clotting in a newborn reaches its peak on the eighth day, then drops. The Bible consistently says that a baby must be circumcised on the eighth day.”

    Another gem. Okay, so the bible says you should circumsize a child (A completely unesscecary medical procedure) on the 8th day. Thats it. It doesnt tell you have to do it because of the bloodclotting, or because of any other scientific or medical reason, just that it has to be done on the 8th day. This is your argument for the bible having true science in it ? Seriously ? That’s just the same as saying well the bible had sheep in it, so they must have known about cloning.

    “3.At a time when it was believed that the earth sat on a large animal or a giant (1500 B.C.), the Bible spoke of the earth’s free float in space: “He…hangs the earth upon nothing” (Job 26:7).”

    No. Wrong. Incorrect. The bible did not speak about the earth free floating in anything, in the quote does it mention space , does it mention the position of the earth, or the rotation of the earth, or in fact any scientific things about the earth at all ? No. It does not. It says he hangs the earth upon nothing, which could mean freaking anything !!!! Again, you are taking a part of the bible and seeing it the way you want to see it to give it scientific merit. (Aside from the idea that the story of Job is about a man living in a giant fish, not a whale, a giant fish)

    “4.The prophet Isaiah also tells us that the earth is round: “It is he that sits upon the circle of the earth” (Isaiah 40:22). This is not a reference to a flat disk, as some skeptic maintain, but to a sphere. Secular man discovered this 2,400 years later. At a time when science believed that the earth was flat, is was the Scriptures that inspired Christopher Columbus to sail around the world (see Proverbs 3:6 footnote).”

    Again. No, he doesn’t tell us the earth is round. He mentions “upon the the circle of the earth” do you have any freaking idea how many circles are on earth ? Any idea at all ? Again, you are taking a general statement, and indicating that it references a very speciffic scientific fact. Which it does not. You say it references a sphere.. but no. It doesnt say that either. Did you even read the quote you posted ? Does it say sphere ? No. It doesn’t. You wanting it to say sphere, or to mean sphere, doesn’t change the fact that it doesn’t.

    “5.God told Job in 1500 B.C.: “Can you send lightnings, that they may go, and say to you, Here we are?” (Job 38:35). The Bible here is making what appears to be a scientifically ludicrous statement—that light can be sent, and then manifest itself in speech. But did you know that radio waves travel at the speed of light? This is why you can have instantaneous wireless communication with someone on the other side of the earth. Science didn’t discover this until 1864 when “British scientist James Clerk Maxwell suggested that electricity and light waves were two forms of the same thing” (Modern Century Illustrated Encyclopedia).

    Again, a failure to read the quote. HE IS ASKING A QUESTION. He is not making a statement of fact, he is not purporting it to mean anything, he is asking a question, not quantifying a statement of fact. And light, cannot do a god damn thing. Light. Does not transmit sound, radio waves do. And radio waves, are useless without a way to receive them, which Im sorry to say, was not in the bible.

    “6.Job 38:19 asks, “Where is the way where light dwells?” Modern man has only recently discovered that light (electromagnetic radiation) has a “way,” traveling at 186,000 miles per second.”

    Again. The guy is asking a question about light. Not giving a statement of scientific fact. Are you trying to say that because the writing in the bible mentions light, thats scientific fact ? Of course people knew about light, they did have a day time…

    “7.Science has discovered that stars emit radio waves, which are received on earth as a high pitch. God mentioned this in Job 38:7: “When the morning stars sang together…””

    No. He did not. When the morning stars sang together, does not indicate anything about radio waves, or emiting them, or anything of the sort. Again, you applying scientific principle to a statement that simply doesn’t mention it. If you want to use a quote as proof of a scientific fact, that quote must at the very least, mention the thing it is attempting to prove. In this case it mentions when stars sang together. Well , they don’t sing. Singing requires vocal cords, not just radio waves, it also doesn’t mention they send out radio waves, stars also don’t send radio waves “together” in any way shape or form.

    8.” “Most cosmologists (scientists who study the structures and evolution of the universe) agree that the Genesis account of creation, in imagining an initial void, may be uncannily close to the truth” (Time, Dec. 1976).”

    Ok, so because the very start of genesis, where it mentions the fact that there is nothing, is somehow akin to scientific fact(which is not, as we still don’t know) Again. This is not science. Creationism, is not science.

    9.”Solomon described a “cycle” of air currents two thousand years before scientists “discovered” them. “The wind goes toward the south, and turns about unto the north; it whirls about continually, and the wind returns again according to his circuits” (Ecclesiastes 1:6).

    Are you really trying to say that because the bible mentions “Wind” (Something that everyone knew about at this time) it’s proof that the bible had the science down ? Egyptians were known to use wind power in a lot of their construction.. and they came a hell of a lot earlier than the bible ever did.

    10. ” Science expresses the universe in five terms: time, space, matter, power, and motion. Genesis 1:1,2 revealed such truths to the Hebrews in 1450 B.C.: “In the beginning [time] God created [power] the heaven [space] and the earth [matter] . . . And the Spirit of God moved [motion] upon the face of the waters.” The first thing God tells man is that He controls of all aspects of the universe.”

    First off. Motion is not a fundamental part of the universe, so that’s out. You are also giving the quote your own definitions, and using them to make it fit your argument.. again, known as a strawman argument. Power, is also not a fundamental part of the universe, so I’m not sure where you science is coming from.

    The last few .. I don’t think I really even need to touch on those. The dinosaurs are dead because god killed them ? Riight. Oh no wait, thats actually just the giant super hippo (That I noticed there was no scripture for) and because god apparently made, and can kill this super hippo, that means god created everything, and thus destroyed the dinosaurs.

    This is a website about challenging the norm, and not excepting the spoon fed answers the world wants to give you.

    Trying to use the bible as basis for science.. is well, it’s just plain stupid.

    • Really..? plain stupid…. take a closer look at the quotes your examining before you jump to any conclusions about the intellectual integrity of these FACTS given by Lance….

      “things WHICH ARE SEEN were not made of things which do appear.”

      1.) You say it could be wind.. or gravity… that this verse is referring to…WRONG! you can’t see wind or gravity.. this verse clearly states..(it’s in caps just in case you miss it again) “Things which are seen” We cannot see the wind or gravity… we can only observe their effects…please inform me of what this verse is actually implying if not the fact that all things are made up of tiny invisible atoms….. and “anything” is way to vague, it makes it look like you have no clue what your talking about.

      2.) Well the fact that the God says to perform a circumcision on the 8th day and a baby’s blood clotting reaches it’s peak on the 8th day… I guess that’s just coincidence…(wait i thought there is no such thing as accidents, or coincidence) it’s all meant to be…..

      3.) “Hangs the earth on nothing” what else could that possibly be interpreted as..? your looking for specific words and dictionary definitions to all these modern discoveries of the universe, its the bible…not a dictionary….you have to open your eyes, and ears, most of all your mind…something everyone on this site claims that they have….huh Can you say Ironic…? <—-rhetorical question don't bother answering because that question actually poses a statement that I'm trying to make…. just as God was doing in Job 38 If you actually read the chapter you can see that he is mocking Job..asking him "Can you send lightning flashes so that they may go and say to you,
      ‘Here we are’?"

      4.) Again your pitiful argument, "well it doesn't say sphere blah, blah, blah….." Lance recounted the verse as citing circle, the earth is a circle and a sphere, therefore what is your point..? the bible didn't mention "sphere" specifically…. what a stupid argument…… also did you read the verse you are so desperately trying to debunk it says "upon the circle of the earth" <—– The circle "of the" earth
      " how many circles are on earth" <—– it's as though your implying the how many circles exist "in" or "on" earth. Difference being circle is not plural… it's singular…so use your brain and put 2 and 2 together….

      5.) Again Job 38:35 is in question form, though God is asking this question to mock Job and prove a point, or you could say he is making a statement….on 2 levels
      1st level- lightening does transmit radio waves naturally look it up!
      2nd level- don't question my authority since you don't know how to "send lightening…."

      6.)" Morning stars sang together"…. ever hear of an analogy? Your argument is that you must have vocal cords to sing… ahhh cut the shit!

      ANALOGY: a similarity between like features of two things, on which a comparison may be based:

      a form of reasoning in which one thing is inferred to be similar to another thing in a certain respect, on the basis of the known similarity between the things in other respects.

      7.) There are patterns in this life only some are able to see….. the fact that subatomic particles can disappear and reappear out of thin air is very similar to the beginning of Genesis, being that the earth was void, meaning it was nothing… then God created the heavens and the earth!!!! Funny how opposites in this world, they are completely different from one another, yet they are both dependent on the others exisitance.

      “why then oh brawling love?, Oh loving hate? Oh ANYTHING of NOTHING first create”<— does this ring any bells? If not then your hopeless….

      Of course creationism is not science… nobody claimed that….what we are stating is the simple fact that the bible hinted about scientific truths before people knew about “spheres, and blood clotting, and lightening being able to transmit radio waves”. So get over it! The mere fact that all these little hints were given.. and the bible is written by men, who could not have possibly known any of these truths…PROVES! Our God is the Real Deal!!!! And you should check your self before you wreck yourself home girl……

      Challenging the norm…? actually it’s pretty normal not to believe in God at all or maybe your on the fence and consider there maybe a God but you don’t really know… so you decide to believe in God but you set the terms of who God is based what you THINK god should be like or do, because we as human beings have all the fucking answers..RIGHT?? <—again that is rhetoric…..

  16. Definitely gonna pick this book up. Sounds like a good read.

    To address the God question. Here is an approach to dwell on.

    Knowledge is a way for which us to obtain truth. The more we know, the better we are figuring out the truth. Knowledge is based off the senses (sight, smell, etc…). We can only obtain knowledge through how we perceive the world. We use other functions such as memory, inference, reasoning, and introspection. But most of this is based off of our senses in the first place.

    Taking of what we know of knowledge, there becomes a problem with God. There is no way to perceive God. If there is no way to perceive God, then how can we truly know that God exists.

    Just something to think about.

  17. These quotes give me the chills. I’m having them tattooed to my forehead.

  18. Brian seems very switched on here! I encourage any religious folk to look into some quantum physics! the “what the bleep do we know” movie is a good starting point :) peace

  19. Love these CwG quotes. After reading the book, I’ve wished so many times that I had read this when I was about ten. As a child, I instinctively knew that many of the things I was being taught didn’t make a lot of sense, but didn’t have the proper vocabulary to express my skepticism. Number 2, especially, would have been very useful, although I would have been told to ‘stop questioning what I don’t understand’…which is hilarious when you think about it.

    Anyway, thanks for sharing these. It’s been a long time since I read the book, but I think it’s time for a refresher:)

  20. Religious or not. Bible or not. God or not. “Love is all there is.”

  21. Steve said on 12.15.2011

    Is there something contradictory with quote 9?

    Shouldn’t we just expect the best and forget the rest? I live my life everyday with the expectation that great things are going to show up in my life. I walk in that freedom knowing that things will flow well.

    I am from a religious background as well. I always hear people say what I just said in this way: I live my life everyday with the expectation that God is going to show up and do great things.

    Just a thought.

  22. zowie said on 10.17.2012

    can someone tell me how many books there are?

    • There are 3 CWG books total, volumes 1-3. I found one that had all three books in one, and has been in my yearly readings ever since. This book changed the way I see and live life forever. After time I was able to go into my readings open minded and would allow myself to quiet my mind and actually feel my feelings while reading these books, and to me, the statements made were undeniable truths. They absolutely felt right. I felt warm inside and full of love for the world by gaining these interesting insights that I feel these books offer. I recommend everyone reads the first one. Two and three go into greater detail of the topics mentioned in one, and are for you to interpret based off your possible new understanding provided by this, truly, uncommon dialogue.

    • 与神对话一共三本。但是后来那个作者又出版了很多书。

  23. I believe in nature, peace on earth, and happiness

  24. What I’ve learned, or taken from this trilogy is technically speaking, everything known or thought to be known is an internal perspective of ones own, projected outward. The only real truths that exist are feelings. Feelings, or the emotions you feel about anything, are the only things that can be deemed as true. Feelings cannot be misconstrued. If you feel bad, you feel bad; if you feel good, you feel good. All feelings stem from two sources, Love or Fear, but even fear can stem from love. Fear comes from the thought of losing love, which you can’t btw. That’s why the phrase, “love is all there is” exists. Words are internal thoughts projected outward and have so many ways of being misinterpreted due to language barriers. One word can mean one thing to someone, while completely different to another. Take “good” for example. To one person something “good” could be eating meat, while to another eating meat is “bad”, both are personal, internal opinions, based off their own truths, or feelings. Language, although beneficial to society, can be detrimental to spiritual, religious, or self growth (These words could all mean the same thing, based on the personal interpretations of these words by the respective users of them). If you take another words for your own, your taking away from your own truth and accepting another. This could be deemed true original sin. For your feelings will be and always will be your own, and stepping away from your truths (aka feelings), means a denial of self. Creating a self for the purpose of sharing yourself with others, or essentially yourself (“all is one, all is love”) is what life is all about and could be said to be the whole purpose of consciousness itself. To know one exists and to be a part of something, not a nothing, a uniform everything. If you’re everything, then you’re nothing, because you have no reference point, no duality, or relativity. Basically you don’t exist. Let us share our differences, in love.

    So why do others attack others truths or feelings based off their personal experience of life? Why deny someone their grandest experience of themselves? Is it because your to afraid or fearful to let your own personal truths (feelings) come out? To fearful to truly create a self unique unto only yourself, that you must bash and take away others opportunity to reach self realization? Remember feelings are different than the thoughts about them.

    I’ll tell you my personal truth, we (our self) exist only within our minds as a mere thought in our brain, part of the body, which is a vessel for consciousness. Everything we experience while in our bodies is because we thought these experiences into being, so that we may feel, give meaning, purpose to them. “Thoughts are creative” – God or Neale Donald Walshe, who’s to say they aren’t the same thing? Who’s to say we aren’t all gods creating our own and collective existences, and together we create consciousness through existing? The bible says I made the son of man in the likeness and image of me (the creator of existence). I don’t think he was talking about just one person. Psalm 82:6 “Ye are gods: and all of you are children of the most High”. I think the bible is talking about man kind in general and once again who’s to say what “man” really is. “Man” is a human word made up for the only purpose of describing something we perceive and trying to share or relate with others while we all search for a purpose, a reason to be here. Even science could be wrong. We can only perceive 1% of the “known” universe, 1%! How can science say to know something as a truth in the material world, when they only have begun to interpret a percent of a percent? Science has laws based off theories, and theories can be challenged and changed, such as religions. Don’t be afraid to change your theory of life. Challenge others ideologies, religions, science, etc if and only if, you’re willing to let them challenge yours, and do so in the name of growing yourself, and in finding your own truths, through love not fear. Fear has brought us to this rough neck world full of hate, greed, and unhappiness. This is due to most people forgetting to follow their true truths (feelings & EGS – emotional guidance systems as Neale would say) and allowing their mind (which could be full of others truths and ideas), carry them on a path to enlightenment, or love.

    I’ll end by saying, “I am that which I am, and I am willing to allow others to be that which they are.”, passage from – The Secret, another great read!

  25. these books gave me chills. i know them to be my ultimate truth! you know when you feel something like that. undescribable. wish everyone in the world could read them, but know and understand that not everyone is meant to.

  26. 我看过这本书,个人认为这本书来自他潜意识的深处,我比较认同奇迹课程的世界观。

  27. luigi said on 02.08.2013

    These books have rejuvenated my soul, just when you think you’re all thoughts and wonders and are all out of answers, someone writes a book that puts everything you thought and wondered on pages. Kind of like I was meant to read this, at this point of time, for every right reason.

  28. Hermes said on 04.26.2013

    PLEASE VISIT MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL FOR CONVERSATIONS WITH GOD BY NEALE DONALD WALSCH BOOKS 1 THROUGH 3 !!!!

    YOUTUBE.COM/ALEXANDRIAAUDIOBOOKS

    I HAVE UPLOADED IT TO YOUTUBE IN VIDEO/AUDIO FORMAT SO THAT MANY MORE CAN COME ACROSS THIS BEAUTIFUL BOOK! ;)

    http://youtube.com/alexandriaaudiobooks
    Features audiobooks such as:
    tibetan book of the dead
    conversations with god
    hitchhikers guide to the galaxy
    journey of souls
    the bible (coming soon )

  29. Just finished the first book, it is amazing. I bookmarked this page because these are some awesome quotes!

  30. I believe in God and I believe in science
    after all science is just the way we perceive our world
    maybe science may never be able to discover the truth behind everything
    but that doesn’t mean that their isn’t a truth behind everything
    meaning there is a truth then it must be attainable
    I believe that this world filled with endless wonder is and was created by a loving God
    A loving God who made a world filled with truth that even when misunderstood by us, is still made for us, from his love

  31. Jason said on 06.16.2013

    Has anyone here read the Satanist bible? Because some of these advices are akin to the Satanic bible, which teaches us indulge in our desires. That life is short, and we should consume worldly desires of the flesh. My problem with that advice is it doesn’t teach restraint. People indulge in alcohol, they become alcoholics. Indulging is what Satan advocates. Greed causes misery. Constant desire and never being happy has created a depressed society.

    God teaches us to be content, to not want, to let go. This is where peace is found.

    I do really like what number 2 said.

Leave a reply

You must be logged in to post a comment.