A letter to a friend

@tine, I don’t necessarily think it was helpful, but he has already done it. Besides he isn’t asking us if what he did was right, he is asking for our discussion on the topics he brought up. I agree with you that for the most part you shouldn’t tell those things to a friend, that is why I have held my tongue a lot, but I don’t think we are in the position to judge whether or not Manimal is helping his friend or not because we don’t know the circumstances.

@manimal,

it has everything to do with the thread, you are trying to paint the illusion that what you said to him was for his benefit, that you were ‘so-in-the-right’, the truth though, based on what you actually did, said, your actions, is the opposite.

the end does not justify the mean — you are lying to yourself if you believe this is true, this is a dangerous path to traverse my friend, you will find yourself neck deep at some-point

also, i feel the need to point one last thing out, i’m sry, i am going to use an expression that is often used over the internet, i understand that such slang is probably beneath you, but i feel it encompasses how i feel perfectly,

(( — yumadbro? — ))

hhrrmm? remember what you said to me in the ego thread? well, you said a lot, so here is a refresher,

—- WHY would I want to learn from some random schmo on the internet ….. That’s why you cannot teach me anything, just like the dojo master doesn’t learn from the beginners. I am already a couple steps ahead….. People who just want to think they’re smart/right. People like you. —-

remember, i am just some ‘random schmo on the internet’, you are ahead of me, i only think i am smart/right

————–your words————–

so, if you truly feel like i am without wisdom, i have nothing to say, that everything i say is ridiculous, — why then do your actions say otherwise? –

why paragraphs of communication? why the need to pick apart everything i say?

remember, i am just some internet schmo who knows nothing,

why not ignore me like you do a lot of people? why not dismiss me like you do with other people?

(( it is a contradiction that you still feel the need to comment despite me being nothing ))

if what you claim about me is true, this is what you would do,

– you would ignore me –

and you would let

– everyone see for themselves how ridiculous i am –

(( — yumadbro? — ))

@manimal,

“If you think I was being mean to the dude you’re fucked up. Others see what was going on, but you’re too obsessed with giving the ego some “grace.”

this is completely mind blowing, you truly think that by tearing someone apart, viscously, is the best approach? you think grace is weak? you think a kind but firm approach is inferior?

(( can you not see what this says about who you are? ))

mind blowing, simply mind blowing

you are excusing your initial reaction to someone attacking you and making it appear like you said it for his benefit, if you believe what you said was out of friendship or his betterment, then you have bought into your own ego illusion

and remember, i do not need nor desire your help, therefore you should have no automatic need to respond to someone so confused and ignorant

@emecom,

–No, I’m not here to ask for advice on how to deal with it or anything like that. It’s actually about my reply to it–

is what he stated at the beginning, just because what i decided to talk about in his reply was not what he wanted everyone to focus on, does not mean i am off topic

@manimal,

–You know, flooding and trolling are the kind of things that define an idiot, and also gets them banned from forums.–

ooo cool, you are threatening me, i’ll tell you what, lets have Jordan look at our conversation and let him decide, in fact, i’ll let him know there is an issue, thanks for this

@manimal, I have a feeling that the fact that you had to write this letter in the first place probably means that none of this will get through to the guy. I know the type, it’s just going to piss him off to the point that none of it will get through to him.

But you are my friend, and I wish the best for you. I want to help you, but I can’t help you if you won’t let me.
This is the last time I make this offer. I want nothing in return. But you gotta be willing to work hard and make sacrifices, for yourself, that’s the only way to improve your situation. If I hear any more negativity or excuses from you the deal is terminated.”

This seemed out of place to me. If the man (I’m assuming he is grown) really is all of the things you say he is, why not just cut the cord? Why offer anything? I hate to sound negative, but people that are like this, and already adults will almost never change. But out of curiosity, how old is he?

@manimal, Age has a lot to do with a lot dude, I don’t want to get hung up on that. He is still young, and still has a chance to start taking responsibility for himself and his actions.

I don’t normally give up on people either, but it has happened and I’m sure it will again. You really made the guy out to be completely worthless, irresponsible and on top of all that, a real dick. I can only go on the letter that you shared and I sure didn’t see many redeeming qualities, hence why I said “why not cut the cord?”. I know you’re not me, but I wouldn’t waste my energy on someone like that.

Apparently he isn’t a complete ass though, and you guys have worked things out. That’s really great man, and I wish you both the best of luck, especially you, because you could very well be the guide your friend needs to really grow up and start taking responsibility for himself and his actions.

@manimal, so basically… you dont post the original letter your friend sent you, rather just saying it was “very aggressive and condescending”. The original letter could have said anything, but of course we arent allowed to view it and make our own judgement on it, just take your word for it. Then you proceed to say you dont want advice, just want to show off how you can insult someone. Then you proceed to write a letter that allows you to brag about yourself while put the other down at the same time. Then, to top it off, you post your reply online so you can show the rest of the world how cool you are(in your own words). Take any opportunity to stroke that ego, eh?