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Kniphofia (@thomaschong)    2 years, 3 months ago

So, I have a ex chemist friend with a top gear lab setup in his basement, I give him weed, he gives me crazy drugs.

4-BR-3,5-DMA- Holy shit, this is a great anesthetic! I could have my arm cut off and be fine with it! No visuals and a clear mind, but no pain whatsoever, although light seemed much brighter than it was.

2-BR-4,5-MDA- A fucking super amphetamine, I feel like I’m four, I could stay up all night running and be fine!

2C-B- I am totally into my body. I am aware of every muscle and nerve in my body. The night is extraordinary–moon full. I’ve seen some of the richest visuals ever. I could stare at a blank wall and watch the cartoons being played on it.

3C-BZ- 24 hours. It was 24 hours of non-stop hallucinations, the sun never rose, at 11:00 on a clear day it was 100% dark outside, my house was floating through space. Sometimes the gravity became lighter or heaver. I felt good. It was impossible to think anything bad.

5,6-MeO-MIPT- One of the worst experiences I’ve ever had, I ate a capsule of this in my bed. Not half an hour later a man with fire coming out of his eyes and mouth burst through my room only to have his head explode, this drug produced anomaly in a normal space, such as scratch marks on walls, rooms with blood every where. I could not open my front door, I was trapped. Wolves bleeding profusely chased my under the covers in my bed, one ripped through the covers and bit my face off. I chased it into the basement to get it back. There I took a 4-(2-Fluoroethyl)-2,5-dimethoxy-A pill to knock me out for about 8 hours. When I came to I noticed that my face was scratched up with dry blood under my finger nails, my front door handle was smashed with one of my guitars, and there was a bloody hole in my covers (made by me). I hate this drug.

DOB- I just felt happy, a constant cool breeze was felt everywhere on my body, I tried to watch T.V. but found it bored me. I went out to meditate in the garden. I assumed the lotus position and somehow lost the world, no sound, when my eyes closed I was able to think clearly and perceptibly about my life. After about two hours of this I went inside and felt refreshed and motivated. About 3 hours later I felt mild nausea and stomach cramps, coming in 5 minuet waves, not unbearable, but annoying.

psi-2C-T-4- I feel really into what ever I’m doing, everything seems clean and sparkly like its on a T.V. infomercial, after about 25 minuets there was a sudden drop off then nothing.

DESOXY- A bright and colorful world, everything seemed like a cartoon scene from Yellow Submarine, no distortion of objects but major color changes. When I played a few guitar chords the music seemed to leap from the instrument. It lasted about twelve hours, I didn’t grow tired whatsoever, T.V. is simply amazing, its hard to take crime shows seriously when the characters look like cartoons.

5-MEO-DMT- I felt absolutely amazing, like an intensified DMT trip where you never leave Earth, but I smoked way to much, I felt my heart stopping and had to use my emergency epinephrine.

a-MT- Really fun, my motor functions got all fucked up, sometimes they would do the oppisite of what I wanted to do, like move backwards instead of forwards, sometimes the wrong side of my body would respond, and other times it would be like controlling a string puppet. Along with acid-like visuals makes for one wild night.

2-ME-DET- My thoughts became quite cloudy, increasingly so for several hours. And somehow slower than usual. Reading didn’t seem to connect, and I had to turn the radio off as it was lousy. Texture, not content. I could type OK, and did, so my body was OK, but things came to me slowly. I wasn’t very hungry but food tasted OK. The ‘cloudy’ was pretty much gone after six hours. I don’t particularly want to repeat this, there isn’t much here that I enjoy.

HARMINE- Like being drunk, so drunk that I couldn’t take a step without falling over, but no nausea or hangover, a few wavy hallucinations but for the most part just being drunk for two hours.

HARMALINE- Dizziness and a world made out of woven fabrics, fun but missing something, also heavy nausea throughout.

HARMALINE with an anti nausea compound and DMT- Amazing, these drugs compliment each other perfectly, I love the colors I see, although it seems to dissipate quicker than DMT by itself, this is amazing.

DMMDA-2- I saw skeletons and zombies in portals (windows, mirrors, televisions, e.t.c.), I felt like I was being hunted and that my Wife was in danger. I eventually pulled a painting off the wall (it was of a forest) and stared at it in a lotus position for a while. This calmed me down until it wore off about an hour later.

2C-T-7- Like a scary version of Ritalin, I feel as if somebody is going to kill me unless I do something productive.

CPM- It came on within five minuets of composition, I could see movement in the air, radio waves, the molecules, sound, T.V. was interesting, everything could only been seen by focusing on layers, the object a character was holding, the character, the background. After 18 hours all effects had dissipated.

2C-SE- I was on a trip to Chicago when I took this. This smelled awful, no taste but it burned my tongue, I drank some out of a water bottle before entering the museum of science and industry. I was able to retain the facts amazingly, and EVERYTHING was interesting, I read facts off little podiums and screamed “OH MY GOD NO WAY!”, I read the instructions on how to change diapers in one of the bathrooms and screamed “HOLY SHIT NO WAY” asking a teenager to “CHECK THIS OUT”, I also vaguely remember licking the glass in front of a plate of fake food to see if I could taste it. I spent about half an hour playing with the wave simulator. Museums are so fun when you’re high. If I had taken this and tried to watch T.V. it would have been INCREDIBLY boring.

2C-T- Imagine being on a roller-coaster for 8 hours, also you’re in wonderland, on shrooms, and acid, this is what 2C-T is like, so much fun, my wife set up a strobe light, amazing, in a word.

DOI- Fucking crazy, time went incredibly fast, it took me four hours to make a sandwich in the kitchen but it felt like ten minuets, there was no real visual hallucinations, but when my eyes were closed I saw amazing, DMT worthy things, T.V. was impossible to comprehend, just a blur of colors. Sleeping was impossible, but, I enjoyed listening to orchestral music and staring at the T.V. colors. Lasted about 30 hours.

META-DOB- All I wanted to do was talk, me and my wife both took it and ended up talking about the strangest of things for 5 hours, I thoroughly enjoyed it. This was on 25 mgs. The hangover was like god taking a dump on my soul though.

META-DOB and LSD- I wanted to talk for hours on end while experiencing the normal LSD hallucinations. Very fun. The hangover remained.

MDBZ- Strangely similar to shrooms. But with one interesting difference, I could not help but say every single one of my thoughts out loud. Whether it be “Pringles are awesome” or “My dick itches”, I would say it out loud. After 4 hours it dissipated. The only downside was my jaw hurting from constantly talking for 4 hours.

MDIP- A very strange drug. I took it, then nothing for 8 hours, I gave up, then the next morning, I saw my wife, her face melted, and a clown came out of our closet and stabbed her repeatability, then he licked his knife and cut his own throat. Having seen this I passed out. When I came to it was about 4 pm and my wife was watching T.V. next to me. I asked her what happened this morning. She said “You were acting weird, you went into my sewing box, stabbed me lightly with a needle and went to bed, no matter how hard I tried I couldn’t wake you, then you woak up around 1 and got a glass of water, said “THIS IS NO CLOWN” and passed out again” I still have no idea how fucked up this drug can get. This scares me more than any bad trip ever could.

METHYL-K- I felt really wound up, and couldn’t get to sleep until 3 AM.

MMDA-3b- Like MDMA but with more visual hallucinations.

ORTHO-DOT- Another strange drug, I felt as if I couldn’t do anything, I would be sitting watching T.V., then I would want a glass of water, as I was pouring it I would suddenly reappear in my chair, when I tried to go to the bathroom, I might have made it half way, then reappeared in my chair. After about 3 hours of this the effects wore off. I went into my kitchen to find 5 unfinished sandwiches and 4 full glasses of water. It really is a strange drug.

BOHD- Man, its like my mind exploded all over my carpet. I am thinking so many thoughts at once its hard to comprehend them. No major visuals, but the world got dark because I put on sunglasses without realizing it.

B- Like screens being put over a tv. I would see the world with all the colors negative, then everything would be orange, then black and white. It lasted approximately 8 hours but I fell asleep around 6 hours.

ASB- The entire session was, in a sort of way, like being in a corridor outside the lighted halls where a beautiful mescaline experience is taking place, sensing the light from behind a grey door, and not being able to find my way in from the dusky underside passageways. This is sort of a gentle sister of mescaline, but with a tendency to emphasize (for me, at this time) the negative, the sad, the struggling. Sleep was impossible before the fifteenth hour. When I tried, I got visions of moonlight in the desert, with figures around me which were the vampire-werewolf aspect of the soul, green colored and evil. I had to sit quietly in the living room and wait patiently until they settled back to wherever they belonged and stopped trying to take over the scene. During the peak of the experience, my pulse was thready, somewhat slowed, and uneven. There was a faint feeling of physical weirdness.

BOD- I had to use an eye dropper for this one because of how bad it tasted. It was like a conscious DMT trip, like having your eyes glued to a moving screen. I could move and feel around the room I was in, but couldn’t see it. I wonder if a blind person could use this to see colors…

BOM- I smoked the crystals of this, within five minuets I felt as if somebody had pushed me onto the bed. I was paralyzed there for about a minuet before I was plunged into a world of white, I felt as if I had lost my body, a body of black paint was drawn before my eyes, it was slightly crude, almost like a Pablo Piccaso, but more coherent. I began to run through this white space, each step I took made another drawing appear, tall, twisted buildings, large bushes, but no other people, I tried to open a buildings door and the whole thing fell over, like an old timey Hollywood set. I heard a chattering sound and suddenly the whole world was painted in a dull water color, with a yellow background and many different shades of buildings. I began floating up and I came out of the trip unexpectedly fast, and I had somehow moved from my bed to my couch.

PROPYNYL- Another strange one. I ate 8 25 mg pills, then after about an hour, I still felt no effects. Then, while I was watching an episode of the Simpsons, I noticed Bart was talking slower. Then an episode of the worlds highest speed chases, by the end of the show, the cars seemed to be going 5mph. After a while time was going so slow I felt like I could see the images on the T.V. before the sound hit me, then for about five minutes, time stopped, just, stopped, I could think, and I was seriously afraid that I would be trapped in the time stop forever. Then time slowly started again and within three hours everything was normal again.

3-TASB- This is strange, my whole house filled up with water. Then the water turned green and I saw all kinds of fish, the people on T.V. were fish, and the water began to change colors like a disco. Very fun. Lasted two hours.

3-TE- I saw a giant bunny rabbit sitting on the couch next to me. Blood began seeping from the walls, so I left the house, it was about 9 PM, the sky was black streaked with orange, the trees seemed dead, black and twisted, any people looked like grim reapers looking down, the side walk was black and twisted, horrible beast ran through the street, moving so fast I never saw their faces. I eventually stumbled into my house an hour later and slept it off.

TOMSO- I walked up my street and saw completely bizarre faces on all the people. I was absolutely unable to estimate the age of anybody who was female, at least by looking at her face. All aspects, both child-like and old, seemed to be amalgamated into each face, all at the same time. There was remarkable time-slowing; overall the experience was favorable.

TRIS- I saw acid like hallucinations and a general hazy feeling, but, it made me starving, I didn’t get the munchies, I experienced a full on hunger attack, I threw up twice from over eating and just kept eating, no fun.

4-T-TRIS- My whole body was extremely sensitive to pain and pleasure, we’ll leave it at that.

ARIADNE- It knocked me out, I woak up 12 hours later.

ETH-LAD – In about an hour or so, gentle movements of the house plants were noted. The walkway of the painting above the fireplace changed as if the sunny spots were moving ahead. The visual aspects became more LSD-like after a couple more hours, though in a very gentle way. The spider windowpane looked three-dimensional: at first I thought the windows were double-paned, but they were not. Stones, rocks and glass had a magical look to them, but tree bark looked like tree bark. Occasionally, a dark streak (spot) would go through the visual field and a page of a book would move sharply without effort. These aspects were very pleasant to me. Thinking easy. Concepts easy to follow through. Mind and feelings together as should be.

2C-G-3- I ingested four 25 mg pills of this. For two hours nothing happened whatsoever, then, as I got up to go to the bathroom, I felt a little dizzy. I looked in my mirror, and I saw a bright space behind me, another world. Then I flew through the mirror, going around space, landing on a planet that looked like my living room, and there I was, in my living room, the carpet started changing colors, everything seemed more real, a painting of a forest and a river became larger and larger until it towered over me, the river started moving, birds in a tree started chirping. And I was a baby, floating down stream. I fell asleep here, waking up in my bed. The walls breathed for half an hour then nothing.

2C-G-N- I smoked a crystal that was maybe 35 mg’s. For a while I felt normal, but that I was expecting something, anything. Then, about three hours later I felt a wooshing sound, like I was falling. Then, a huge stream of consciousness hit me, I felt like all the knowledge in the world bitch slapped me so hard it sent me flying backwards. Then, gone, like a balloon popping. And it was over. Just like that.

ALEPH-7- 200 mg’s, that was more than triple the suggested dose. That was more than I should have ever done. It came on slowly, so slow I almost didn’t realize I ascending out of my couch in a beam of light. I was soaring among the clouds, having a great time. But a voice came to me, its funny, it came directly from my left shoulder, it sounded like a friendly old woman, saying “You know this isn’t right, the world is suffering below you”. So I flew down and saw a charred earth, like Halloween town without the Halloween. I saw that I was in wonderland. The Cheshire cat was being forced to turn a wheel that moved an elaborate machine that turned around and whipped him. I flew through it full force, destroying it. The cat said nothing, and left with only his smile radiating behind him. I flew to the castle, the queen had died, so had the jabberwocky, I knew this, somehow. I wondered to myself who had been doing these evils I had seen in wonderland. So I walked inside the castle. I found a torch in an old court room, I was walking through these decrepit halls, they looked like they had been abandoned for century’s. The only inhabitant I had seen so far was the Cheshire cat, and he had long faded out of existence. I saw a dim light coming from under a door. Inside I saw ramblings all over the walls, there were nice things and horrible things written everywhere. I looked behind a bed. Two skeletons. One had a green striped hat on. The other, a blue dress, then slowly the skull turned, looked at me, and smiled, then wonderland was gone, the smile was the only thing in this dark dimension, it grew bigger and bigger until I saw a small hole in a tooth, the smile grew so big that I walked in that hole, and I kept walking down this tunnel, seeing a bright light. I had been here before. I heard my guardian speak, “Go back, I barely got you out last time, if you continue walking this way, you’ll never be able to go back”. I felt the hole sucking me in, I began walking backward, but something was pulling me down the tunnel. My guardian said “RUN, RUN, YOU’LL BE TRAPPED HERE FOREVER”, I ran back the way I came, each step becoming harder and harder to lift. I made it to the entrance of the tunnel, which was now floating. I felt that something was coming for me, something in the darkness. I jumped. I didn’t fall, but I floated, gently down, through my house roof, gently down back on my couch. And there I was, fully sober.

MBT- I took this right before I boarded an airplane, my connection informed me that it took a very long time to kick in. I took 3 50 mg pills. After getting through customs and security and buying some munchies, I boarded the plane. I found out I was being bumped to first class, which was pretty cool. Next to me was an old hippy who informed me he was on acid, and that he might give me a hug. We talked, his acid hit him hard and he was silent, watching a movie on his personal screen planes these days have. My drugs hit me a little bit later. I was looking out the window, it was about 9:30 at night, but the sun was coming up and going down. The clouds seemed to change colors and swirl all about me, becoming shapes like animals and moving. I didn’t want to watch anything on the little screen, just to stare out the window and look at the clouds.

LOPHOPHINE- This was another strange one, I felt myself sinking into my couch only two minuets after drinking 100 mg’s, this was strange by itself, but soon my television started shrinking. I grew bigger, like I was in a box, only that box was my room. I couldn’t judge the size of anything. For about 4 hours everything in my house was wildly fluctuating. Pretty damn fun.

F-22- I smoked 50 mg’s in the basement, as I climbed my normally straight staircase, it seemed to twist and turn, I climbed it endlessly, seeing various paintings and creatures, different colored carpets and wooden paneling, I made it to the top of this stair case after what seemed to be hours of climbing. I went to the living room and turned on the T.V. it seemed to be really loud without making any noise, if that makes sense, all in all the experience was favorable.

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Martijn Schirp (@martijn)2 years, 3 months ago ago

Amazing reports. Thanks for sharing.

Could I ask a few questions? How do you know what dose to use? How do you plan your trips? How much time in between trips you take? Do you worry about your mental health/flasbacks etc? What is your reason for trying these all out?

Your stories seem coherent and I sense a good vibe, so I guess thanks for doing this, pioneer of life!

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Shredder (@shredder)2 years, 3 months ago ago

And is your friend creating these drugs himself or following recipes? Quite interesting names… I’ve never heard of any of this… details??

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dealerofdice (@dealerofdice)2 years, 3 months ago ago

@thomaschong, 2C-B seems to be the one too try for a first;would you agree?

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Alex (@hollowinfinity)2 years, 3 months ago ago

I’ve tried some 2C-B myself. Side note; I’ve only done it once and I was on mushrooms. Not the greatest idea. :P

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Colton (@emecom)2 years, 3 months ago ago

@thomaschong, Wow this is amazing to read about! Makes me really want to get into chemistry. Is your friend getting his recipes from one of Alexander Shulgin’s books?

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Eric (@blankey)2 years, 3 months ago ago

@thomaschong, Wow. What made you try so many drugs? After having such a bad experience on one, like having a clown murder your wife, why did you decide to keep taking them without knowing what to expect?

I’m only sticking to the naturals :)

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Kniphofia (@thomaschong)2 years, 3 months ago ago

@blankey, Hallucinogens unearth a puirity of mind, listen to Joe Rogans podcasts on DMT and Shrooms.

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Kniphofia (@thomaschong)2 years, 3 months ago ago

@emecom, He has a giant book of somewhere around 5000 hallucinogen recipes he’s collected from around the country and world.

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Kniphofia (@thomaschong)2 years, 3 months ago ago

@dealerofdice, Yeah the 2C family is a really good way to ease into hallucinogens.

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Kniphofia (@thomaschong)2 years, 3 months ago ago

@martijn,
1)How do you know what dose to use?
2) How do you plan your trips?
3) How much time in between trips you take?
4) Do you worry about your mental health/flasbacks etc?
5) What is your reason for trying these all out?

1) Some of these have a set dosage, like 200 mgs, but if I don’t know, I just wing it, worst case scenario, I trip for a week, the LD50 rate for these is insane, like a pound.
2) I have an incredibly flexible job, if I know I have to show up to something in a week, nothing besides weed. But if I’m bored I’ll trip. I have a large amount of gel acid, I might take a couple hits tonight.
3) Not that much, I trip about 3 times a week, but I’ll stop immediately if it starts affecting my mind.
4) I do, but as my chemist friend told me, “You’ll notice a difficultly falling asleep, then you’ll start to become totally unfocused on everything, if that happens, stop for a month, then try a single hit, if you’re good the next day, great, if the symptoms come back, wait two months” I’ve only had to stop after any serious binges, like the time I took 50 hits of acid and went on a huge spiritual journey, I took a one and a half break for all drugs except weed.
5) To live, to experience, their really not bad for me, and I’ve never really hurt anyone, and I rarely hurt myself, I can maintain a composure throughout, and even if I’m tripping so hard that I can’t even think, I’ll still find my way to the couch. These drugs have opened my mind up, I see the world in more vibrant colors, I see beauty in every thing, I’m happy.

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StonerExplorer (@sartestor)2 years, 3 months ago ago

guy, i wish i had your luck, finding all those drugs for someone with no friends in a laboratory is hard as hell, it took me like 2 months to get a dose of PROPYNYL and… yeah, it’s fucking beautiful. Thanks for the wonderful report, now i have a lot of things to buy/get and try :D

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Holy Shitsnacks! Dude your fucking wild!

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Kniphofia (@thomaschong)2 years, 3 months ago ago

@shaniquaaa, I’m fine, I can still run a mile in 7 minuets!

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yoinkie (@yoinkie)2 years, 3 months ago ago

Whats up, Chong! Good to see you posting on this new found secret of ours. Not long before I dive head first into this place as well.

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Julia (@collinsj2009)2 years, 3 months ago ago

Wow. I could talk to you for hours. What do you think is the most spiritually stimulating hallucinogen you have taken?

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Kniphofia (@thomaschong)2 years, 3 months ago ago

@collinsj2009, DMT, I’ll post a trip, just for you.

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Julia (@collinsj2009)2 years, 3 months ago ago

Yeah thank you, I would like that. I tried DMT twice, but never enough to move past the threshold.. It seems to be pretty difficult to find in Portland.

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Kniphofia (@thomaschong)2 years, 3 months ago ago

@collinsj2009, Portland, I would guess it would be easy to find up there!

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Eric (@blankey)2 years, 3 months ago ago

@thomaschong, I’ve done mushrooms plenty of times before but I mean trying so many different kinds of random psychedelic chemicals is fucking crazy! haha I mean that in the nicest and coolest way possible :)

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Jordan Lejuwaan (@jordan)2 years, 3 months ago ago

@thomaschong, I would love to know what your absolute favorite drug is.

Also what has your experience been like with Ketamine? I’ve heard other psychonauts say they’ve gone ‘further’ with K than with anything else, even DMT.

Lastly, ever tried a ton of Nitrous with LSD or other psychedelics? Ever heard the story about the guy that built a spaceship in his house over years while doing that?

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SumtinProphetic (@sumtinprophetic)2 years, 3 months ago ago

@thomaschong, holy shnikies man thank you for documenting all of this! I have so many questions, but for starters.. what did you get done the day you took 2C-T-7-? What do you mean by scary version of ritalin?

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Adam Smith (@adamsmith)2 years, 3 months ago ago

Damn, you’re one interesting dude. You’ve presented yourself as quite the psychonaut. Lol. I want to read your DMT report. I want to know what you believe.

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nebula (@nebula)2 years, 3 months ago ago

I can back the comments on 2C-B, much fun to be had on that stuff.
@jordan, I can highly recommend nitrous with any psychedelic. I’ve used it with LSD, with K and shrooms and it was great and added something every time.

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CosmicLemonade (@cosmiclemonade)2 years, 3 months ago ago

That is so incredible. I just kept reading, mesmerized. Your post was a trip in itself, my friend!

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Martijn Schirp (@martijn)2 years, 3 months ago ago

@thomaschong, Thank you for answering my questions. I have a couple more if you don’t mind :)

Do you trip only for tripping or do you sometimes have ulterior goals? (like the ritalin one for being productive, or just in general – spirituality/creativity etc?).
You have to admit, you trip a lot. Do you think there will come a point where you quit/don’t need it anymore?
Do you meditate? Why (not)?
What is your wife’s view on your adventures?
Where are you from?

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