Addiction

2 years, 4 months ago

Hey Guys,
First : sorry for my bad english
I want to ask you to explain addiction
because i already tried several things like speed weed ecstasy and such shit
but nothing of those i could be addicted of. Correct me if im wrong, but arent all people who say “i just cant stop taking…” just dumb?
sorry if this is aggressing anyone here

December 25, 2012 at 11:06 pm

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Profile photo of BriGuy BriGuy (@iambrian) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@xxtobixx47, I think everyone is different. What’s addicting to some people might not be for others. I also think if you were to do something like speed for a long period of time (please don’t) you would become addicted. I do see what you’re trying to say about them being “dumb”. I feel like they aren’t dumb, they just don’t have the willpower.

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Profile photo of IncarnationOfRealism IncarnationOfRealism (@xxtobixx47) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

well i havent tried that “hard-stuff” longer because i respect the risk of a physical addiction. but i tried it with alcohol. ok it was not thought as a try.
me and two friends were drinking one vodka a day (per person) 3 months.
somewhen i said we have to stop i did it but the other 2 not.
do you think its just willpower? or may anyone have a genetic bonus?

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Profile photo of BriGuy BriGuy (@iambrian) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@xxtobixx47, I think it is willpower. You seem more self-aware than most by acknowledging you respect the risk of physical addiction. Most people just do things to feel good without even thinking. Maybe certain peoples genes can cause then to become addicted more easily, but I don’t know I’m not a geneticist haha. I have a friend who wants to stop smoking weed, because he doesn’t like how it effects his lifestyle, but he doesn’t have the willpower to stop.

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Profile photo of D Dub21 D Dub21 (@ddub21) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@xxtobixx47, i was addicted to heroin for 2 years..obviously anybody can stop taking something if they want to but when i say that it was the hardest thing i have ever overcame in my life i mean it. Ive only been clean for 5 months which seems like a short time but for this addiction i feel like it is a major accomplishment considering the statistics are very low of people being able to overcome heroin addiction. One major factor here is that if you do not get your fix you are literally in serious pain mixed in with extreme anxiety. I wanted to stop using probably a year into being addicted but was scared of going through the withdrawals because it is so painful and after a year of trying i finally made it.

In my opinion i do not agree that genetics play a factor in becoming an addict. Anybody can get addicted to certain drugs. If they use a drug like heroin you become physically addicted which makes most users scared to stop. It took my body almost two months to feel like a normal person again and one month of pure misery. Hope this helps

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Profile photo of D Dub21 D Dub21 (@ddub21) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@xxtobixx47, and to be honest in my opinion anyone who says that they are addicted to weed and X and say they cannot stop taking it are very week minded

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Profile photo of BriGuy BriGuy (@iambrian) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@ddub21, Congrats on being clean man! May I ask what it is that keeps you moving forward? What switch flipped in your mind that made you want to kick that habit?

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Profile photo of D Dub21 D Dub21 (@ddub21) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@iambrian, Thanks a lot man i appreciate it..One of the main reasons is feeling, getting high on a drug like that blocks out reality so you do not have to deal with emotions and the typical everyday struggles which help us grow as people. I want to be connected with the world not push it away. Whatever the cause or reason (if any) that we are hear i want to embrace it and try to experience it the way our minds are supposed too. I didn’t want to need a substance to be happy…Still love the occasional THC and psychedelic trip though :)

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Profile photo of Dan Dan (@scew) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@ddub21, Congrats so far man.

As far as what has already been said, I agree that respecting the physical addiction is the key. I have many friends who smoke just cigarettes, and they claim that they are addicted. I was actually the best man for one of their weddings, but I have yet to find cigarettes addicting . . .

I smoked at least a pack a day for two semesters of college. The summer after I just stopped. That was it, lol, game over cigs. You know what I found interesting about my cold turkey? My only withdrawal symptom was a headache and you know what i did about that? I took an aspirin and called it a day. Sure if someone offers me a cig I’ll smoke with them, but I feel that the most sensationalized “addiction” was nothing for me to overcome, and I was just wondering if anyone else here had a similar situation?

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Profile photo of IncarnationOfRealism IncarnationOfRealism (@xxtobixx47) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@ddub21, Congrats man and thank you for telling your story
well i dont know i havent tried anything hard like that
im open to try things but ONLY if theyre destroyable by my body
tell me : when did you first realized that you was addicted?

and just a little question to anybody who got experience with X
i tried it and i was biting all the time while i was on it
now my teeths hurt like hell and my tongue also
any hints to fix it ?

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Profile photo of D Dub21 D Dub21 (@ddub21) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

No problem man..and yea that happens from jawing when your rolling just give it a day or two your mouth will be fine..I started off using pain killers and didn’t have any experience using them and after i did them for maybe a couple weeks i woke up one day and started to feel sick, at the time i did not realize why i was sick until later on it just clicked in my head “oh shit im having withdrawals”…pretty scary moment

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Profile photo of  Anonymous (@) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

Addiction does not exist really. Its just something that you like doing so much that it becomes part of your everyday life. Or you dont have to like it, it just becomes part of your life. And when something is regular part of yout life, like idk computer, its pretty hard to just reject it for forever. Its not addiction, that is just word people are using for something they dont want you to do. Maybe im wrong, but in my opinio it doesnt exist. And sry for bad english.

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Profile photo of Bobby Bobby (@bobbylloydxd) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@bono95zg, physical addiction definitely does exist. Once you become physically reliant on something it is extremely hard to go without it.

Conditioning, habits, and social addiction are a more interesting because they only involve anxiety, will power, and determination. Many people get trapped in these conditions though.

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Profile photo of  Anonymous (@) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@bobbylloydxd, when you are born in isloated area and eat a certain food from the moment you are born and then after long period of time you change your diet, i think you would feel the difference and your body would feel bad (not necessarily) . Beacuse your body got used to substances and build it self with them, and you stop giving it to your body, so it has to replace the whole thing with new one.
I have problem expressing in english and i hope u see what i meant.

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Profile photo of Bobby Bobby (@bobbylloydxd) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@bono95zg, I get what you are saying. You just described exactly what physical addiction is. It seems to me that you understand it just fine.

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Profile photo of Ray Butler Ray Butler M (@trek79) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

(@xxtobixx47) You can’t play the “Freedom” card to justify any right to be addicted, by definition addiction is a limitation on freedom. It takes objective reason, or rather the reasonably objective reason, a person has and it places a bias toward a specific desire.
This is not just in substance abuse but just about anything can become a chronic habit that interfers with a persons responsibilities and duties. Addiction is not a problem until harm is occuring to others or if the addicted person is becoming a burden on others.
Besides that, the fact is that regardless of how much a “problem” an addiction is, it is done with little choice in the matter. Yes a person MAY retain the will to give it up at any point but there exists a huge bias in compulsion that drives a person back to the addiction, like gravity with the addiction being the ground and you have to fly against physics to avoid touching it.
Some people do not have addictive personalities, and if that is you then great, but there was a time when I believe I didn’t have that personality, but that changed, so don’t get over confident with you abilities of will because it may land you in a situation that you have never experienced before.

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Profile photo of IncarnationOfRealism IncarnationOfRealism (@xxtobixx47) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@ddub21, thank you its already fine :D
Was it really just like “well ok ive got withdrawals” ? I mean written like this sounds so neutral ^^

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Profile photo of D Dub21 D Dub21 (@ddub21) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@xxtobixx47, i mean it took me a little while to realize what it was but basically yea..it was the first time i ever felt that way so i when i figured it out i was freaked out

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Profile photo of Kat Kat (@kcv213) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

Just dropped this in another thread but all of you should read the book In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts by Gabor Mate. That should put things into perspective

http://www.amazon.com/Realm-Hungry-Ghosts-Encounters-Addiction/dp/155643880X

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Profile photo of  Anonymous (@) 2 years, 3 months ago ago

@bobbylloydxd, yeah… but what i ment is that addiction is just a word, its not something bad or something people should be worried. You certainly have your own addictions but they are not drugs, alcohol, or something that can hurt you, ie. cause illness or something, so they are not considered bad.

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