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Alcohol is fine. I drink a lot. It’s all about approach, like all drugs. If you consider alcohol something that makes people depressed or damages people, then that is what it becomes. If you think it changes people and makes them do stupid things, then you are focusing too much on what others are doing. You should just laugh at what they are doing, as should they. I am Irish, and people drink a lot here and the majority of alcohol induced endeavours end in nothing but merriment and laughter. When people say and do stupid things they are laughed at and they in turn laugh at others. Jokes are cracked and we just take the piss out off everything. Most people don’t wake up thinking such and such was such a dickhead last night unless they do something horribly bad, it is just laughed off. People just take themselves too seriously and therefore take alcohol too serious. Just relax and have a drink and a laugh and don’t think about it so much.
As a matter of personal opinion, I am not fond of the stuff. Do I drink? Yes. I absolutely hate the feeling of being drunk though. I hate the person it turns me into because it truly brings out negative qualities and messes with my psyche. I feel it closes my mind and perception, whereas other drugs, even weed, broadens your mind/scope. It’s hard because alcohol is a “traditional” substance in America. At weddings and other holidays/special occasions, you toast with champagne, etc. Alcohol is truly ingrained in our society’s customs so it’s difficult to avoid it completely. But I agree, as with any other drug, moderation and intention is key. Drinking to get drunk is most people’s mindset when drinking and that’s when problems arise.
I love alcohol. 3, 4, 5 drinks and the effects are pronounced, but not overwhelming. I can easily meditate on grand concepts, I can enter states of omnipotence, I feel more gentle, caring, kind, and I generally want others to feel just as good if not better than me. My girlfriend loves when I drink (whats that say about me when I’m sober O_O ).
In the woods, a few drinks can cause a massive undermining of the ego. I feel at one with nature, yet incredibly depressed at the state of it. I feel more connected with friends, easier to say things on the mind, and many productive talks have come from it.
Its a good thing to have. For the people who don’t enjoy it, use in moderation, and don’t go to a frat party, then you should understand it.
I have to stop drinking today as a matter of personal responsibility. It is occupying all of my free time and all of my spending money. I find it hard to enjoy a lot of things unless I am drunk and can freely smoke cigarettes (I can go through a pack a night, quit those today too). I wake up dehydrated every morning with no motivation.
It really is a miserable condition I’m in. Getting drunk is fucking awesome but see I don’t get drunk anymore.
When I started I remember I could drink a forty and enter into a very deep meditation and everything would be grand for the rest of the night.
I can’t experience anything close to that feeling with the drug anymore – doesn’t matter how energetic I feel or how much I drink. All I get are small windows of enlightening concepts and some self assurance. Not a good deal. I have spent at least $3000 on the stuff since April.
It has more to do with my specific personality weaknesses than the drug itself though. If you can drink maybe a few drinks a couple times a week or something you will not run into the problems I have.
I just can’t moderate my immediate wants enough to not spend the majority of my last $20 on booze.
All in all though I think Alcohol has helped me develop my personality but now the graph is sloping downward and it’s time for the next adventure – hopefully this one will be less detrimental to my life lol.
I’ll say the same thing I say about most drugs: there’s nothing wrong drinking it, but people need to be responsible with it.
Quite frankly, alcohol has ruined my family’s life because my mom is less than responsible with it. But, I don’t find anything wrong with a drink every now and again.
It would be hard not to, us Irish are born with BAs in alcohol studies, I myself have furthered my studies to the a PHD, tis a fine discipline. As brendan behan said “To get enough to eat was regarded as an achievement. To get drunk was a victory.”
@spaceghost, I’m handsome. Although, I never enjoyed the taste of alcohol and would still have a strong taste reflex after a marathon, it doesn’t make sense if I don’t want to shut the world off so I could compose music or whatever I decide to do. Getting shitfaced is ugly, I agree. But the most pointless thing is people getting used to drink in order to call their friends to have fun like their brain cells died before getting drunk and couldn’t imagine something else to do for fun.
It was only when I started dabbling with other drugs that I started to drink responsibly. I realised it was one of the worst ones out there, and I still regularly question why it’s so socially acceptable.
I used to drink a lot, at least 3 times a week, and my record bender was 2 weeks. I don’t regret it at all, I had some bad times, I had some awesome times. I drink maybe every 3 months now, and I haven’t had a bad time with it for a few years. If you are giving off a good vibe you have a good time. I never drink it if I’m feeling at all down, I will cancel nights out if I have to, as alcohol with shitty emotions equals a shitty time.
@escalade777, Honestly, I believe that alcohol is stupid, and that people have been brainwashed into thinking it’s something that’s good for you.
People say that it “opens you up”, and allows you to have a good time, but you can do that even better without alcohol. People act so differently on alcohol, even if they’ve only had “a few drinks”.
I could go on, but I’ll curb my rant.
@ijesuschrist, sometimes I’ve been both. Angry, or sad. Though I try to recognize these days that, the way things are right now at this present moment, I am only inflicting those feelings on myself.
What do you mean by ” I mean I get sad as in an existential way, but its not like a depressed feeling.”
@beyond, “But the most pointless thing is people getting used to drink in order to call their friends to have fun like their brain cells died before getting drunk and couldn’t imagine something else to do for fun.”
Alcohol should enhance the the company, not be the reason to hang out.
@escalade777, I can say that alcohol is much more dangerous than I thought it could be. For years I believed that I was yielding its power, but after a decade of abusive drinking, I understand now that I can only control whether or not I consume alcohol. My blackouts revved up in high-risk and embarrasment levels over the last year. I never believed girls when they said that they lost control of their selves during nights of heavy binge drinking. Now I’m campaigning to girls I know on a personal level that during a blackout, all inhibitions thrown out the window can add up to the least-likely events for ANYONE! Three years of celibacy went out the window when I had one of my worst blackout recently. Worst of all, it was unprotected. Anyone who is close to me knows that I’m not the kind of girl that would have intercourse at all, let alone with a bloke I hardly know at a party.
Alcohol is high-risk! Please tread lightly!
Alcohol is not good and that’s why people drink it. We have a saying here “Some people drink from sadness, some drink to celebrate happiness, others just drink from the morning.” I’m the third and a part of the most fucked up versions of consuming this shit. It makes me aggressive and I even like being aggressive. Well, yeah. I don’t think anyone without experience could talk about abusing with alcohol. My mentality becomes of a piece of shit football hooligan and I hurt people’s feelings and become the most terrible person. I’m the universe experiencing itself, it must be spinning.
@ijesuschrist, It has to do with brain chemistry balance whateverIforgottheproperterm. According to what I’ve researched, alcohol simply lifts social walls you put up when you are sober. If you are a generally angry person, but hide it away due to social acceptance, alcohol will lift that. Alcohol removes the left brain/right brain conflict, basically getting rid of any hesitation or forethought a person has. To get a better understanding, read “Incognito” by david eagleman.
Never been one to consume much alcohol. Lowers my state of consciousness to a primal state full of aggression and sexual obsession. Nothing wrong with it every once and awhile though, or having a few drinks just to enjoy the more subtle effects.
Alcohol is one of those things that you can love or you can hate. It’s a personal choice to do it and how much you do of it. I find it hurts myself much more than it has helped since I started drinking again.
A major part it in is how it affects my mood and emotions, not while I am drunk but after. After getting such a high off being drunk I suffer from lows for the next week following. I’ve quit drinking again since I’ve really started to feel the need of controlling my own life. There is a history of alcoholism and depression in my family and I don’t want it to be a defining factor in my life.
That being said I still have one or two drinks on social occasions. Mostly because of peer pressure. People look at you different when you are a young male and not drinking at all. I find it easier to brush it off with the excuse that I’m busy and have to get up early the next morning than to have to defend my reasons for not having a drink/getting drunk. In that way I find it really pathetic about our society but it is the reality.
For me it is a personal choice, I hold nothing against those people who do partake in drunken shenanigans and tomfoolery. In fact I encourage it, it is quite hilarious to watch drunk people, as long as they don’t take it past that certain point.
I grew up with sober parents, and never tasted alcohol until I was 19. I was critical toward it from the start. I never really started drinking on a regular basis. I am lightweight, so I don’t ‘need’ much while I’m at it, but I love to go dancing once in a while, and I can have fun drinking a couple of times a month. But at the end of the night, I get emotional. Alcohol brings out the worst in me, I think. All negativity and self-pity. I never got drunk enough to vomit. I always know when to stop, when it’s no fun anymore. I think knowing when you’ve had enough/too much is the key. And I don’t really enjoy it that much. It’s definitely overrated. It makes people do stupid things, and the day after they blame it on the alcohol.
@theskafish, “Existential sadness” I guess I mean, its like “Holy shit, things are messed up, but its so incredible anyway” ?
Kind of like just feeling that intense of a feeling, it makes me feel good at the same time?
@flyingrhino, I guess. I mean it makes sense, but then why would you drink? That doesn’t make sense.
If I’m generally an angry or sad person, and then I drink I get even more absorbed in the sadness or anger, why the fudge would I drink?!
@ijesuschrist, that’s a very interesting perspective you have on the sauce. It makes me wonder, how do you focus when you are on it though? Whenever I drink, my focus is demolished. I either change between thoughts much more quickly than normal, or I don’t have any thoughts at all. Either way, I never reach a profound, enlightened, meaningful state – I am simply wasted.
My own opinion on alcohol is that it’s okay every now and then but not every day, and I like beer more than hard liquor. Also, I find alcohol gets boring after a while, I start to feel like, man, what am I doing to myself, there’s got to be something better I can do than this.
I think people mostly start drinking as a means to have fun with their peers, enjoy and relax. Usually it starts out in small portions ie: a 12 pack or a handle, as that’s all that is needed at that time. Just a little something to lift the social boundaries. And you usually end up having one hell of a time.
But it’s like that “first high”. You always want to chase that first high, have as much fun as you did in say Summer ’03. So I guess it leads to drinking more or trying to find a way to re live your good times, and that’s when alcohol becomes an issue, well for me at least that’s how it worked.
But obviously drinking everyday can lead to some pretty serious problems. Alcohol used to be an escape for me. Something I could use to self-medicate. But there’s a fine line between being in control of your drinking and being controlled by your drinking. Alcohol can make you do and say a lot of things you wouldn’t normally. Some people say the truth comes out when you drink, I disagree. I believe the alcohol makes you say and believe things you wouldn’t normally. And in the process you can lose a lot of valuable things in your life, family, friends, your license (doh!), and not to mention your life itself.
So I guess what I’m tryna say is, alcohol can be a beautiful thing. It can spark creativity and be thought provoking in moderation. But it can also destroy. With great power comes great responsibility I guess? Lol.
I’m pretty lit while writing this so excuse me if I didn’t make any sense at all.