All the things that can enlighten you to the truth are demonized
I saw that quote in a video earlier today. The video itself was ridiculous, but that saying is very, very true.
Now, some of you are probably going “Yeah man, legalize it” but that’s not what this topic is about. I’m sure you already know that a lot of drugs can help enlighten you to some degree, so I decided to leave that out of this thread.
What this thread is about is a bit different, but I’ll show you a quick example.
That’s exactly the point I’m making. Most people have no idea what the words really mean, and what they’re really about, that’s what this thread is about.
-Idols, devil worship and taking the Lord’s name in vain-
The famous “thou shalt not” commandments from the bible are something that I assume you all know already. But very few people ever contemplate what they’re all about.
The priests (and God) say that you shall not worship idols… but what about that dude on the cross, man? And that mother of his? And the cross itself?
The “christian” concept of God is actually three different ones. First there is Elohim, the creators. Then there is also Jahweh and Èl. These are not at all the same thing.
I could go on and on about the idiocy and wickedness of the church, but it’s not that relevant, I’ll leave it at this.
Also, what’s the most common use of the word idol? Talking about celebrities, people you look up to… having idols is idol worship, mental poison.
-Baphomet and Lucifer-
“What the fuck am I looking at?”
“And you’re telling me this thing isn’t evil? It’s got a goat head and wings and tits and a satan star, and snakes are eating its dick.”
That’s exactly what I’m telling you. It’s not at all what you think, and those people who noticed that Washington and Lincoln are both depicted mimicking Baphomet and went “holy shit Satan rules the land!” were just crazy and misinformed.
Now let me explain what Baphomet is. Baphomet was thought up by the knights templar during the crusades in the middle east. These were those knights who got sick of the tyranny of the church and deserted.
The twin snakes are an old and very common symbol for woman/feminine, they represent the fallopian tubes. This together with the tits and the Venus pentagram, reveal the feminine nature of Baphomet. “But it has a dick and looks male…” yep, it’s called duality, that’s the meaning of this icon.
Why they made her look so scary is a good question. Maybe it’s just our associations, due to social conditioning… or the may have done it intentionally to keep the Christians and Muslims away.
“Son of the morning? That means lucifer, the devil, I knew this shit was evil!”
Lucifer literally means “lightbringer.” There is nothing evil about Lucifer, Lucifer is not Satan. Lucifer is the bringer of light, the enlightener, the god of wisdom. See now what I mean by demonized?
Where the hebreic teaching has Lucifer, most other ancient teachings have two separate gods for the same purpose. In the Greek mythology there is Aphrodite and Dinoysos, matched in Roman mythology by Venus and Pan. Odin and Frigg in the Norse mythology have the same roles, although there are more Luciferic gods in their tradition.
Lucifer and all his equivalents are “Venus gods,” the pentagram is based on the movement of planet Venus in the skies. The pentagram is not a satanic symbol, but a symbol of Venus, enlightenment and the “divine feminine.”
Lucifer is one of the elohim mentioned in the creation, in the very beginning of the holy book. The other “lucifer” that is mentioned much later, the fallen angel who tried to overthrow god, is a completely different character that was added much later and has nothing to do with the actual Lucifer.
Sorry, metalheads, for ruining your songs ;)
-The serpentine offering-
We’ve all heard the story of Eve and Adam eating a strange fruit because some snake told them to, and the God gets all trippin and throws them out of paradise.
Because it really wasn’t, there’s nothing sad about that story, it was not at all about breaking some rule and being punished for it.
The serpent in the tree is a classic symbol of Lucifer, but also a traditional symbol for the kundalini. The fruit they eat is called the fruit of knowledge, it came from the tree of knowledge in which this serpent resided. This made them conscious and after this they couldn’t stay in paradise and came to earth. Things starting to add up yet?
Ok I’ll explain it to ya. Think back to when you were a child, what life was like back then…
That’s what that story of Eden in the beginning of the first book of Moses/Genesis tells us about.
“To enter the kingdom of heaven, one must first become like a child again.”
-Satan and the devil-
If I ask you who Satan is, what would your answer be?
Something like “The devil, Beelzebub, the lord of evil,” right? Well what if I told you that this too is wrong? Because it is.
First of all… Beelzebub, the lord of the flies, was a death god worshipped by some middle eastern tribe/cult a long time ago. A “heathen false god,” a case of idol worship. Beelzebub is not Satan.
What, then, is Satan? That’s simple, Satan is an icon for darkness, death and destruction… but not really evil. Darkness, death and destruction are simply forces of nature, laws of reality. Not evil at all, other than in people’s opinions, but opinion is not reality.
If I ask you to mention a god who’s name sounds like Satan, what would you say?
Saturnus is the roman god of.. wait for it.. darkness.. death.. and.. destruction! The greek equivalent is Hades, and Hades is mentioned in the holy book as well.
Satan is not evil, Satan is one of the Elohim that are credited by Jews and Christians for creating the world. Part of all that is.
Yes, you heard right, Satan is not the devil. The devil is a completely different concept. Devil is simply put evil. Bad intent, hatred, anger, weakness, fear, corruption… the devil exists only within the human mind, only humans are capable of that mental poison which we call evil and corruption.
-False enlightenment and spirituality.
So in case you haven’t gotten the point yet… religion is stupid and wrong, it doesn’t get people “closer to god” but only deludes them into a haze of ignorance, hatred and fear.
…I’m talking about New age, Buddhism, and the likes. I know that a lot of you will get upset about this, as these things are very popular among the users of this site… but these are all examples of stupid religions as well.
Being unstable is not a sign of spiritual awakening, it’s a sign of deep set mental issues.
Enlightenment is NOT about a belief, it’s NOT about a behaviour, it’s NOT about a certain thought or action.
To those of you who read through the whole thing with an open mind, thanks for reading and welcome to the other side. I hope you enjoyed it and learned something.
For those of you who want to educate yourself about enlightenment (mental/spiritual as well as physical) and the true meanings of the ancient teachings, and some other stuff like that, I’ve got some great book recommendations.
The Kybalion – Three disciples (this one is free)
And if you’re into hardcorer reading of a lot of weird hardly comprehensive stuff, check out the rejected books and the pyramid texts.
Peace and love
Well Manimal once again you’ve taken some of my beliefs and made me realize how little sense they made. Good show
@manimal, This is why I check to see if you posted. Well done and thank you, I’ve learned a lot. Mind sharing where you learned some of this stuff? I’m really interested in this material and every time you’d say something like “I could go on and on about the idiocy and wickedness of the church, but it’s not that relevant” I got bummed out because I wanted you to keep going. I know a fair amount but not nearly as much as I’d like to.
Wow… you…. are incredibly smart :) Thanks, I learned a ton. Please, say more and tell us where you got this, its extremely interesting.
@zhaetur, Glad you like it :)
Where did I learn this stuff? All over the place, really. Those books I recommended for example, a bunch of other books too (I read a metric shitton of books,) various studies, websites, people I know who are into this kind of stuff, experience, etc.
But it’s not really some super advanced or hidden knowledge, I’ve mostly walked in circles. And most of this stuff is easily available for those who look further beyond what they’re spoonfed. Which we are taught not to do, by the same people who demonize the unknown.
I’ve fought off malevolent entities twice in my life so i know it’s not all bullshit.
From a purely non-mythological standpoint, more powerful psychics dexribe the astral plane.as Above there is Light and below there is Darkness and the attendant spirits that dwell therein.
@tigerturban, I’m in the same boat as you ha!
@manimal, I’ve enjoyed reading your theory. Very interesting how you explained everything, I like how you made sure to point out that the devil and satan are 2 different beings.
A question I have, though, is that I was led to believe that the Knights Templar were the beginning of\somehow related to the Brotherhood aka illuminati. If that was true then my limited understanding of them depicts them as in fact devil\satanic worshipers? Would that not make Baphomet a representation of the devil or evil? Or is all of that mistaken information?
bravo, my brother, bravo. this should be read by 7 billion people.
@flyingrhino, he can probably answer it better than me as he is very knowledgeable, but the same way he tells us that the truth is demonized (hmm i wonder why) then the secret group (which is obviously not so secret anymore) like the illuminati and others like kings of templar or jesuits, would have to organize in secret because they went against the church’s teachings and the church made sure to say they were devil worshipers just like they put a twist on everything else. dont you find it strange that illuminati means ‘enlightened ones’. and ‘lucifer’ bringer of light?*Light
just my perspective,
@manimal, extremely impressed with this post. i loved it and i didn’t want to end there for bit. it opened my eyes to a lot things i have always believed about the bible’s stories. one question though, you say saturnus was the god of darkness and death but wasn’t saturn the god of agriculture and his wife the goddess of harvesting/crops or something?
BUMP!! awesome and enlightening post Manimal. Peace, Love and soul brotha!
@tigerturban, Icons, it’s how the mind deals with the intangible. I would go easy on the spirit labels if I were you.
@flyingrhino, The knights templar presumably got their wisdom from the masons and hermetics. So did the rosicrucians and freemasons. The Illuminati was a group created in the 1700s in Bavaria, they were inspired by the freemasons and templars, but they didn’t last long. What people call “Illuminati” these days isn’t the same thing, I don’t know why they use that word. The word means “the enlightened ones” by the way.
There are some branches of rosicrucians and freemasons that worship Baphomet, they’ve kind of turned into a religion over time just like so many other teachings. And just because some satanist devil worshipper also worhips Baphomet, doesn’t mean it’s an evil icon.
@manimal, I love when you address this topic! This was a very informative read and I’m glad you included a list of books because I have been wanting to do some of my own research into this but didn’t know where to start. I would recommend that you look into some teachings of the LDS (Mormon) religion, many of the things you brought up are tenets in that religion if you study enough.
@kearns11, Ancient religions often made their deities “Gods” of multiple things. For instance Athena was goddess of war, strategy, the hearth, crafts, metalworking, violence, bloodlust, slaughter, and wisdom.
@manimal, Really?? Well, considering you nothing of my experiences I’ll take that as a attempted brushoff. Of course, none of your postulations (pontifications?) are particularly new; browse through any New Age section of any second hand book store and you’ll find similar theories attempting to explain the “intangible” :)
Interesting, i too have come to many of the same conclusions about the manifestation of ideas into grouped concepts such as religion, but religion has served its purpose, you know this to be true by the awareness you have, for how many achieve it? How many will never achieve it? What then do we do with the fools hrm? How do we herd them into groups and keep them grazing on -feeling of progress- and -social interaction-? Most can never comprehend reality at even a fraction of how you can perceive it, but they still have equal voting rights…. =)
The problem is, some of the ‘aware’ ones USE the religion for their gain, for the religion is about the ideas of love and hope, a -how to- relevant to cultural context, and the ideas are pure.
Do you worship a literal deity? Or the Idea?
Worship to me is just another word for focus
Organized religion is useful to elevate the masses to the point where superconsciousness begins. That point is beyond the mind and beyond any organization, scriptures, rules, or teaching.
@tigerturban, A group of people believing something doesn’t make it true. I’m not denying your spirit stuff or whatever you wanna call it, just reminding you to keep an open mind.
@tine, That’s not what religion is at all, there is nothing pure about it. And why do you think there’s a need to herd people? What for, and why?
I do not worship, not at all. Didn’t you read the OP? My mind and soul belong to nobody, I am free, for I do not worship.
@manimal, allrighty thennnn! but whose talking about “groups”, I was merely referring to my own experience with the “intangible” as an individual…I’m not saying it was “Satan” or “Beelzebub” or “Count Chocula”. or whatever what i am saying however is that there is some really invisible evil shit out there, Powerful Dark Forces. The labels men have given are as you say your self, meaningless. On that point we agree! And there are others who are as virulently anti-religious as you and I are, who would agree also…
Worship literally means to exert great focus, don’t trouble with semantics, I was just a’ asking for clarification,
“…And why do you think there’s a need to herd people? What for, and why?”
You’ve taken this from a different perspective than meant, there is no intention to herd people, it just happens, around clusters of ideas, religion is built upon pure concepts, man corrupts them for personal gain, but religion still serves a purpose as it is possible for positive change to occur, even if inferior to what you offer. I support clusters of positive ideas, both their good and bad qualities, as long as they serve as primarily as a builder.
I have even accepted what you’ve said, I see the positive in it
“or whatever what i am saying however is that there is some really invisible evil shit out there, Powerful Dark Forces. The labels men have given are as you say your self, meaningless. On that point we agree! And there are others who are as virulently anti-religious as you and I are, who would agree also…”
Man , I dunno, unless we can fully grasp our emotions can we really say we know for sure? I am not trying to poo paw on your event, but if something did happen then you must understand that, seeing is believing… every supernatural incident or element of society that I have focused on, when reduced to the cause, has always been human, either through a complete unawareness of their actions or the mind tricking itself because it does not understand….
Though, I am fully aware of how small my perspective is when contrasted against the unknow-able amount of knowledge out there, so I try to refrain from closing my mind off to possibilities until I have just cause to do so
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