Alternate Lifestyles: Living our Ideals
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| Justin
(@falsecandles)
11 months, 2 weeks ago ago 5
It goes without saying that there is something “different” about us. Nearly every article on this site refers to us as people ” wanting more”, be it happiness, experiences, you name it. It also goes without saying that not all of us or identical in our goals… Regardless. There is “something” there that set us apart. Be it our path of self-development, our ideologies, our tendencies, our way of thinking, or just what we happen to spend our time on. We spend a lot an awful lot poking holes into the society’s and cultures around us, the lives that “normal” people tend to live. My question to you is, How do we survive in a world that is arguably against the majority of our ideals. We can scoff at the student who graduates from a college with severe debt, who swiftly enters into cubicle work to pay off said debt ( his career I assume), but what can we do to avoid this fate? What sort of lives can we live so that we can ACTUALLY live? We can’t all fit into the aesthetic life style. |
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| Kevin
Harmonious communal living. It answers all questions. Ive been pondering this since the beginning of the shift in consiousness October of last year. |
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| Alicia Lee
(@aliwine)
11 months, 2 weeks ago ago 2
Live the lifestyle you want, if you don’t want to work in a cubical don’t choose a job that will put you in one. Life is about the choices you make and the path they take you on. For too long people have stood by and let others make decisions for them. It’s easy to break out of that though just don’t be afraid and do what you want. Don’t say education isn’t worth anything though because it is and not every post secondary course will end with you working in a cubical. That’s just what the radical uneducated anarchist wants you to think and the are just as bad as the big pig corporations. Life needs balance, seek it and you will find it. There is your answer. |
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| Alicia Lee
(@aliwine)
11 months, 2 weeks ago ago 1
Communism, in theory it works. We just need a system that can make it work without a crazy dictator. |
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| Justin
(@falsecandles)
11 months, 2 weeks ago ago 1
Interesting. But I am not talking about government. I’m not sure about all you, but I have for the longest time felt my individualism as being a key proponent to my thoughts. Thus, a singular person’s life. Perhaps, to be more specific, I am looking for ways of bucking this system. Your ways of bucking this system. Do you try to live your ideals? Do you find difficulty in separating the logistics of a modern life with what you would consider the life you want to live? The people who fuel our change, the writers and the idea smiths, the Timothy Leary’s, the Alan Watts’s, the Jiddu Krishnamurt’s, even the Alejandro Jodorowky’s, and perhaps even the Dalai Llami.. They didn’t, or don’t, live “normal” lives by any degree. How do you as an individual live your life in a way that compares to your ideals. Are you celibate? Do you teach english in foreign countries? Do you apprentice yourself to a ayahausca shaman? I’m curious to know. |
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| Alicia Lee
(@aliwine)
11 months, 2 weeks ago ago
@falsecandles, Hm, so going against the norm then? Perhaps by having been a “teen mom” and completing college that would be one thing. Maybe by educating myself about the government at such a young age is another. But there will always be someone else in the world who is on the same page as you, there are seven billion people after all. The way I keep individual is just by listening to the voice… “in my heart” I guess. Maybe this voice is a little influenced by media, it is certainly influenced by my “upbringing”. As for comparing it to my ideals, being 21 years old my ideals are still a little ways away and I have a lot of time to get to them. I would like to become an advocate for children’s and family rights. However I feel I need further post secondary education. I think everyone will always be chasing some sort of dream, even if that dream is just to get a doughnut. |
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| Justin
(@falsecandles)
11 months, 2 weeks ago ago
But, what IS in your heart? What draws you to this website? And through you, everyone else who reads this. |
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| Equanimity
(@equanimity)
11 months, 2 weeks ago ago
I think it’s a little presumptuous to assume that we are all that different from the rest of society. |
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| Justin
(@falsecandles)
11 months, 2 weeks ago ago
No doubt. Yet have you not seen that we are generally addressed as such by the major blog posts on this site? Even the message on the banner reads Do you think that self-development, lucid dreaming, psychedelic use for consciousness expansion, and ten-day Vipassana courses are things that society in general are interested in? I honestly think it was more presumptuous of me to lump everyone who reads this site as being similar. |
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| Jordan Lejuwaan
@falsecandles, Great post. This is the major question that has been on my mind in recent months. How do I turn HE into a community of action, instead of only of thought and discussion? I’m very excited to say the answers have come, and will be shared soon :) There’s some seriously cool shit coming your way, HEthens! |
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| Jordan Lejuwaan
Hint: @bigred has the right idea |
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| Lexi
@jordan, |
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| Jordan Lejuwaan
@lexi, You’re getting warm :) |
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| Equanimity
(@equanimity)
11 months, 2 weeks ago ago
@falsecandles, Fair enough! I suppose I took the beginning of your post the wrong way for some reason. |
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| Sian
(@siantastic)
11 months, 2 weeks ago ago
Well isn’t this exciting! |
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| Michael
(@pandacat)
11 months, 2 weeks ago ago
Created an account to reply to this. This post is hitting the sweet spot for me, in terms of what I’ve been thinking and caring about for a while now. All of you are tremendously articulate and just killing it right now. As for me, I’ve been studying Buddhism both academically and personally pretty closely. One of the more general and practical ideas I’ve come away with is that self-development should largely trump activism. What I mean by this is that instead of first trying to heal the wounds of your society and live your ideals in a change-the-world kind of way, you should focus more on getting in touch with yourself and becoming your potential. Because the road to helping the world (you know, in an idealistic kind of way) goes through your own heart and your own phenomenal expression of yourself. I can see myself starting to ramble so here’s my way of living my ideals (and maybe it will clear up some of the above). I find something amazing in traveling. Travel does it for me. I want to range and explore and expand. So I focus, in everyday life, on finding opportunities to travel. Even if I don’t leave the state–travel is, after all, a state of mind. Whatever. My idea is that if you choose a field, as I am trying to do, that emphasizes field work and travel over cubicle desk work, the loans might even be fun to pay off. Do what you love, and try not to do it for free. |
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| BellissimoIlluminati
(@bellissimo247)
11 months, 2 weeks ago ago 1
“You never change things by fighting the existing reality. It’s up to us to construct a new model of society that strives for self-realization. |
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| DaJetPlane
(@lytning91)
11 months, 2 weeks ago ago
@jordan, WHATTTTTTTTT? Stop the presses! What did you manage to do Jordan? |
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| Justin
(@falsecandles)
11 months, 2 weeks ago ago
Beautiful. And just the sort of thing I was looking for. Thank you for your response. |
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| Will
(@lostinthestreet)
11 months, 2 weeks ago ago
I’ve always talked about practical application. |
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| Justin
(@falsecandles)
11 months, 2 weeks ago ago
Then by all means talk away. Share it all again. |
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| Jordan Lejuwaan
@bellissimo247 hit the nail on the head. The Occupy movement was a great start, something that showed how many of us are discontent. But we won’t achieve anything with resisting what is. Radical change can only be made through being FOR something that is far greater than what you are working against. @lytning91, I’m putting the finishing touches on a post that I consider to be the most powerful thing I have written for HE. When I publish it this week, you will know what is coming in great detail. It is the beginning of a call to a single plight. One common mission that will have amazing implications on every front of society. I’m very excited for this as you can probably tell :) I’d explain now but it will be so much more eloquently in this upcoming post. |
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| Eric
(@blankey)
11 months, 2 weeks ago ago
We could all go hide away somewhere and live an awesome life, but what would that do to the world as a whole? Nothing. We need to help wake the public up. Talk to strangers. Inform people about the duality of our existence and that they are not alone. Inform them of the terror money creates, the corruption of the governments, and how we CAN change that seeing as we are the people. |
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| Jeremy
(@chadvice)
11 months, 2 weeks ago ago
one of my favorite quotes: “The reasonable man adapts himself to the conditions that surround him… The unreasonable man adapts surrounding conditions to himself… All progress depends on the unreasonable man.” -George Bernard Shaw This community is full of unrealistic, game changers, who are most certainly going to play integral roles in the development of future society. Not to say that we are “special” for being here, but rather that we are seeking information and discussing things like this while those still running in the rat race watch Jersey Shore and spend all their money on absurdly expensive toys. As long as we are not afraid to venture off the beaten path, we can do anything. @jordan I’m happy to see that your still fulfilling your purpose in allowing this community to blossom into what it was meant to be. I remember the 1,000 member days. Now you,re talking about activism. |
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| Will
(@lostinthestreet)
11 months, 1 week ago ago
Well for about 7 years now I’ve been working on an “event of emergency” plan with about 12 friends of mine. We’ve gone over what it would take to live in a self contained community and the different parts. Here’s my break down: Food: Farming and gathering are two areas that not only take time but are essential to life. Being able to produce your own food connects us to the earth in which we take from. Energy Source: Something along the lines of building a generator either from a waterfall, geothermal heat, etc. to maintain our power needs. Easier said than done. Shelter: Who wants to sleep on the floor? Personal Growth Tools: Albeit a campfire, garden, or a sort of social activity, these tools are necessary to help us grow, learn, and share with those around us. Now this emergency plan has always been my ideal plan on how I would love to live my life anyway, so it’s not a far stretch for me. In my own life today I am finishing up 5 weeks more of horrible corporate life here in Seattle, then I will be moving down to Southern California to start a business with my best friend spreading love and good things across the country. We are working on products, website, and whole marketing campaign for people to show where they spread love and good things. Once our company is up and running with money coming in, we will be traveling around the world spreading our message and maybe… just maybe, start that new place. |
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