An attempt to prove ‘God’ .. disprove if you like

Kevin…..you have it sussed…..
peace bro….

If we have a creator, he does not give a fuck about heaven or hell/sin. how could he send us to either when what he created made us who we are?

I also don’t believe in anything I think. All possibilities are open in my mind, and I don’t believe I, or anyone else will ever know. There are endless possibilities to life, God, and existence. We can be a figment of imagination, we can be physical living beings, Christianity may be one only truth, but so can extremists beliefs. The fact is who know. Believe what you want, but believing doesn’t make something a reality to everyone else; just to you. So don’t push your beliefs onto others, and don’t kill for what you believe, because you are just killing off the openness which your “mind” truly desires and needs to be sane and happy. Everything is real and everything is fake. Maybe there is one way which we are made to live our lives, but I don’t believe a God would create us to be so uniform. But maybe I’m wrong. We will never know. Also, if there was a God, why wouldn’t he just make himself obvious? Why so secretive? Some may argue that he is all around us, and we can see him in the mountains etc..Nope, I just see mountains, I don’t see an almighty force who says, “Hi Kevin, I am God, I created you and the world.” I just see amazingly beautiful mountains who did not make me or the world.

Kevin

“Believe what you want, but believing doesn’t make something a reality to everyone else; just to you. So don’t push your beliefs onto others, and don’t kill for what you believe, because you are just killing off the openness which your “mind” truly desires and needs to be sane and happy. Everything is real and everything is fake.”

I can relate to that last sentence. We all create our own reality tunnel that is both real and fake. That doesn’t mean we create reality.

“Also, if there was a God, why wouldn’t he just make himself obvious? Why so secretive?”

Because that would be no fun at all. :)

“Some may argue that he is all around us, and we can see him in the mountains etc..Nope, I just see mountains, I don’t see an almighty force who says, “Hi Kevin, I am God, I created you and the world.” I just see amazingly beautiful mountains who did not make me or the world.”

This made me think of a quote by Alan Watts:

The hills are shadows, the poet says, that flow from form to form; and nothing changes.

Does it make sense that the world was created six thousand years ago along with with human, Ask why are there dinosaur bones left over from 250 millions years ago? Is god testing us? To me GOD in the bible or Quran or what ever books is the easy way out religions give us in trying to explain why exist life on earth. I don’t believe that we are worshiping the true god. I believe that we do have a creator, but it might not be some godly magician who say “POOF, let us have light in the sky..” Perhaps it can be some ancient alien who found the condition of earth is perfect for life and they started the seeds of life or it could have been a happy coincident of the universe, but then it was evolution that created us. Once evolution start, there will be intelligent life form eventually (even if it took us a few hundred million years and condition on earth that we have finally come along).
Isnt it coincidence we found that we can use oil to power out life? and it was oil that took our world from riding horse back to riding car on the roads we build from oil based materials? Did god created us and our world and then created oil in the ground so we can suck it up and destroy our world within a few hundred years? Is it a trial god give us? or He is just careless? or Perhaps OUr creator was no god but some mortal from some other plannet?

It seems to me that a lot of people get stuck on the start and end, because everything we know has a definite beginning and end, but why does the universe have to conform to that narrow view point? I think right now we just don’t have the capacity to understand everything that’s going on, and to me (and I mean just to me, not a shot at anybody else), inventing a creator seems like a cop out. I hope someday that science will have all of the answers

“The first peace, which is the most important, is that which comes within the souls of people when they realize their relationship, their oneness with the universe and all its powers, and when they realize that at the center of the universe dwells the Great Spirit, and that this center is really everywhere, it is within each of us.”

Black Elk – Oglala Sioux

Science does not state that an infinite universe is impossible, Kirsten.

Mike: you clearly have an open, inquiring mind. Nothing wrong with that in my book xox

Time is now, so time is our God :)

Ben: Interesting…but not likely. I don’t think something as complex, immense and (in my book) infinite just happens…That just really doesn’t add up..

I believe Ben makes some interesting points. It seems just as mind boggling and impossible that everything just happened as it does that there is a God (at least ones people worship), which created us. They are both insane ideas, both of which don’t have enough answers for us to wrap our minds around. I think Ben makes a somewhat good point when he says,

“If you’re trying to “be enlightened” or something along those lines, i strongly suggest just entertaining the idea that god and religion are man-made concepts.”

Nothing will ever be proven. No matter how hard you may try to find something to believe in, a part of you will never fully accept it as the truth. Enlightenment can only be found within yourself, if you continuously seek it. If you can get the same spiritual enlightenment, if not more from that of religions, or a “God,” Then why would you need to pick and choose which God to choose? Religions are all pick and choose; Whatever works best for you and your lifestyle. I like to think of them as “designer religions.” Obviously they are not all “the way, the truth, and the light,” so you will never know which one (if any) are really true. Just because one fits your lifestyle and culture better than other ones does not make it truth. If you want to believe in a religion, great! If that is what you truly need for enlightenment go for it. If you are in constant search for a the truth of who we are and where we came from through religions to choose from, I would suggest taking Ben’s advice, because you will never find the answers you are looking for. Even if you find a religion that suits your needs, there will be questions within the religion which cannot be answered.