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Dan (@dougan)    2 years, 11 months ago

http://www.meatvideo.com/ (Warning – graphic!)

I’d like to hear what people have to say about this video. I watched it and am obviously not too impressed with the way animals are treated. I am by all means a meat-eater but I really didn’t think shit like this was still happening! Does anyone know where PETA or animal rights activists are while this is going on? I’m not an overly emotional person, and I don’t usually think a whole lot about animals raised for food production, but this has to stop!

Any Vegans out there? I never considered going to a vegan diet and really can’t bring myself to starting now… but curious what it’s all about.

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Alex (@hollowinfinity)2 years, 11 months ago ago

I never really understood being vegan or vegetarian, until I learned how the animals were treated. Not only is it completely immoral to the animals, it is terrible for ourselves too. We give these animals a bunch of antibiotics. One day there will be a virus that we can’t cure because we’ve been indirectly eating the antibiotics for generations. We feed chickens arsenic, and feed cattle the chicken shit. Cows eat grass naturally. I say we let the farmers have more control again. They get fucked over, and our food gets worse. Raw milk is illegal, and walnuts are deemed illegal drugs, yet McDonalds is completely okay. I want control of my food.

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Johannes Davidsson (@daokedao)2 years, 11 months ago ago

It’s insane. I agree on eating meat. I have nothing against the killing. Just they have no dignity while alive. Treated like that is just sick. It’s dirty as well.

I don’t know how it is here but most people have never killed an animal bigger then a chicken.
Having been brought up I have been present when slaughtering pigs and cows. There are 2 kinds of slaughterhouses. There are “green” farms where they take care of the animals. I have seen farmers kiss their cow goodbye and then go for the kill. I see nothing wrong with that.

Those places are rare now days. Even in Sweden who has had a very “clean” meat industry is competing against the european meat industry. They have low quality meat at a low price. They are winning, and it’s sad.

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ELI var namnet (@manimal)2 years, 11 months ago ago

That’s what society has created to sustain the shitty culture they’ve created. People want cheap meat without effort, and this is the price. It sickens me.

Animals being held in cages and tiny booths, being fed stuff they’re not supposed to eat (soy, sawdust, cardboard, corn and other grains) which makes them sick. Then they’re pumped full of antibiotics and other toxic shit, and in countries like the USA they are also pumped full of steroids and hormones. Not to mention that lots of farmers feed random poisons to their animals just to make them fatter. This is torture, buying their products is taking part in the torture.

Don’t eat commercial food, this is what you cause when you eat it. Get your meat from a REAL farmer, not some industrial sellout pseudofarmer, then you’re not causing the animals any suffering. Or even better still, farm or hunt your own meat.

It’s ridiculous how people complain about the shitty treatment of animals, yet they do nothing to stop it. They even buy the products, it’s disgusting.

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Dan (@dougan)2 years, 11 months ago ago

I like the tie back to over-regulating and people wanting “cheap meat without effort.” I suppose society has created an environment that makes this stuff possible. It sort of ties back to the “capitalism must change” post a little while ago. Everyone is so focused on making money and creating more efficient systems. In this case, those efficient systems come at the cost of animals humane treatment. I feel like there is a line that has been crossed to get to this point – this somewhat counters my arguments on capitalism though, because I strongly advocate capitalism as a good thing. But the more posts I read and the more issues that are addressed; I start second guessing myself. The cost on society and human/animal lifestyles does appear to be increasing, with capitalism as a potential enabler.

As for doing something about it, I think that we can all start watching where we shop and what we eat… to make a small difference. I have started paying more attention to the labels on meat/dairy/poultry/etc. products and looking out for the locally grown suppliers. Typically they are a bit better. I’ve also stopped buying the cheapest meat I could find because a lot of times, that is the worst meat.

Thanks for your perspectives Alex, Johannes, and Mannimal…. this was a bit of a shocker to me, to discover just how bad it has gotten.

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Matt P (@mkp843)2 years, 11 months ago ago

It’s hell on earth if I ever did see it.. it’s so messed up.. animal’s well being should be subsidized.. they could raised to have good lives, and their meat could be so much healthier for us.. it’s really sad

Manimal, how do I get products from a ‘real farmer’ .. Are there stores, any particular brands, or do I need to actually go to a farm?

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Matt P (@mkp843)2 years, 11 months ago ago

It’s consumerism, or profit only motive that I think is the really guilty one, and the fact that they use their profits to hide the ugliness of their business and make even more profit.. I think I gave capitalism a bad wrap before.. because it does provide opportunity.. The downfall is that we blindly follow ppl that have made successful profit monsters such as this.. and we remain oblivious because they have a billion ads saying it’s good up against the one ad that points out that it is bad.. or we are just too consumed with our own problems to feel motivated, or able to tackle such an issue..

I think it’s the lack of information… If this video were to go viral, or be put on the news.. as it should be.. I think a strong resistance would form

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Dan (@dougan)2 years, 11 months ago ago

I think you’re right Matt; in regards to consumerism being at fault… it’s a tough one to take on other than just doing “your part” by buying better meat, fish, etc. My gf suggested a “coalition” that in effect, subsidizes good farmers through donations and collections… could work.

If the video went viral, that may be another good way to get the word out? Easier said than done I suppose. It’s fairly popular already; I found the link of facebook… but still not even close to viral.

I am curious to hear what Manimal might say about “good” brands. The best I’ve come up with so far is just buying local.

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daveb (@daveb)2 years, 11 months ago ago

buying local is definitely the way to go – you can meet the farmer, see how the animals are treated, talk to them (farmers and animals). plus from an econ standpoint more of your dollar goes to the farmer and less to transport and stuff.

start at a farmer’s market, great places to meet responsible people. you can even go in on a bigger purchase with some friends to keep costs reasonable. of course I live in the country, so I don’t know how to do it in a big city.

in the US there is also an annoying paradox (gov’t created of course) where slaughterhouses have to be USDA monitored, but the USDA won’t send an inspector to a slaughterhouse if the throughput is too low!! but of course low throughput is the only way to be humane and clean.

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