animals knowing

3 years, 4 months ago

I have had the flue for a few days and last night i fell asleep on the couch with my cat unto of my belly, he stayed there all night. there are some times i fall asleep on the couch but the cat always gives me all the attention when i’m sad/down or sick. i know animals can feel what we feel and i know they see a hell lot more then we do, so i went on a google hunt and this is what i found, i would like to hear some of your input on this, how do you think about this?
first some video’s to get your mind working on this subject. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDZwyT7iuUY http://youtu.be/9SB5wQPp_g4
do animals have the same and maybe even more emotions then we do? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFRQBARilks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClUwvciI0cE this Dr. Rupert Sheldrake sounds like he knows what hes talking about, i found allot of interesting things on his website : http://www.sheldrake.org/homepage.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STn3bpTTU6c http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cqzd0aKTWlY
i can go on and on about this but really i just want to know what you guys think about on this subject. :)

December 10, 2011 at 6:50 am

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Profile photo of Iris Iris (@aneris) 3 years, 4 months ago ago

don’t know how but i managed to post this discussion twice :S

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Profile photo of ELI var namnet ELI var namnet (@manimal) 3 years, 4 months ago ago

They can sense this kind of stuff, but so can some humans. We all can, to some degree.

In one episode of “Through the wormhole” they talked about this kind of stuff, in some hospitals they had dogs and cats that could sense when someone was about to die and such.

It’s very interesting.

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Profile photo of Dick Dick (@dick) 3 years, 4 months ago ago

I think predators are hard wired to sense weakness. It helps them conserve energy and reduces the risk of injury when acquiring their prey. It also provides an opportunity to reestablish the pecking order in a social group like a wolf pack, or an opportunity to take some new territory.
Now whether your cat is there to protect you in your weakened state, or is waiting for an opportunity to eat you I do not know.

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Profile photo of Iris Iris (@aneris) 3 years, 4 months ago ago

haha, nah my cat is really comforting me (or so it feels). its days like these that makes the bond stronger then it was before :)

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Profile photo of Rutger Rutger (@capnderp) 3 years, 4 months ago ago

The explanation is fairly simple. Humans can detect it as well as any other complex animal. Thing is that most humans, around other humans, try to hide their weakness/sadness, for various reasons. When in the comfort of home, with their pet who they know won’t judge, they feel as themselves, and it becomes easy for the animal to pick up on this. Your friends feel at comfort around you as well, which is why you’re often easily able to tell when they’re feeling down or sick.

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Profile photo of ELI var namnet ELI var namnet (@manimal) 3 years, 4 months ago ago

To me, this seems like good proof that thoughts and emotions really do send out some kind of physical signals, maybe smells or electric currents or something else. These “vibrations” that people talk about. Humans sense it too, but since this is an age of ignorance and numbness most people don’t consciously notice it. Subconsciously they do, and this is what determines their behavior a lot of the time.

Ever notice how dogs (and people) adapt to your mood? If you feel playful, your dog will want to play, if you’re aggressive your dog will attack the one you’re aggressive towards, if you’re scared/defensive your dog will defend, etc. Just like the stuff that Cesar guy teaches on tv.

And if you have a social animal like a dog, they will take care of you if you’re ill. Even cats too, unless your group dynamic is upside down (if the cat is dominant for example.) People used to be like this too, but few people are nowadays.

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I think Dick is on to something.

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Profile photo of Alex Alex (@hollowinfinity) 3 years, 4 months ago ago

I have heard a lot about peoples connections with animals. Some people believe everyone has a ‘spirit animal’ as well. Before my grandfather died of Alzheimer’s he kept telling everyone that a bunch of dogs kept coming into his room. He said they looked really hungry. I’ve heard other stories like this too. There is something fascinating about animals in general. I often wonder how different consciousness is from animal to animal as well. How weird can consciousness be? What other kind of senses must exist?

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Profile photo of ELI var namnet ELI var namnet (@manimal) 3 years, 4 months ago ago

@Alex Consciousness is no different, but the experience of senses and different perception probably varies a lot.

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Profile photo of luigi luigi (@luigiblue) 3 years, 4 months ago ago

I have a very strong connection with my male cat.

I get sleep paralysis a lot and sometimes it is accompanied by a presence. One time while I was in the midst of sleep paralysis I felt this presence grab me and try to pull me up off the bed. It really hurt and I tried screaming and moving but could not. After a while of this struggle with this presence or w.e it was. I saw, from the corner of my eye, my door open and my cat rush on top of my bed. The presence immediately went away. I woke up the next morning with my cat sleeping right next to my head. My cat never ever ever sleeps on my bed and for some reason this one time he knew something was wrong.

So I would say yes, animals do know. Cats in particular are a little sly and mysterious, I think they know a lot more in the spiritual world than we all know.
I’ve heard stories of even cats knowing when people are about to die. The pheromone that is released days or even hours before you die attracts the cat and the cat would hang around you until you died. I read an article where a cat was placed in a hospital and every time the cat would hang around a certain patient for a while, the patient died right after.

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Profile photo of Iris Iris (@aneris) 3 years, 4 months ago ago

@Luigi oh woah! that sounds like a incubbus/succubus, ever looked into it? is it still troubling you? amazing how your cat came to rescue, i don’t see how it is coincidence. and i do believe cats can see some sort of astral world/ spirit world.

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Profile photo of Gotesvensk Gotesvensk (@gotesvensk) 3 years, 4 months ago ago

I am in the process of reading a book by the name of “Illumination in the Flatwoods” and its about a guy who lived more than a year raising two clutches of wild turkey chicks, essentially playing a huge role in the lives of these completely wild animals. So as you can imagine he was exposed to all sorts of situations involving the emotional growth and responses of these little birds. I just read a section about his take on the turkeys apparent ‘affection’ for him. and he admits he has no scientific proof of it but he was certain that the way that certain individuals almost needed or at least seemed out at least some sort of physical connection with him, shows the complexity of emotion that animals can experience.

A great point he made was that since we are used to, being humans, seeing and reacting to mammalian forms of emotional expression, it makes it easy to simply say that other ‘apparently’ less intelligent species therefore must not have emotions like us! I personally like to think they do though, just cause i find every day that parts of the world around me are ALWAYS more complex than i originally imagine.

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Profile photo of luigi luigi (@luigiblue) 3 years, 4 months ago ago

@ Iris, yes I still get sleep paralysis but it isn’t accompanied by an evil presence anymore. I’ve learned to take control of it and I’m trying to turn it into an out of body experience. I’ve never looked into incubbus/succubus but I will right now thanks.

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