I was thinking about joining, and just want to hear some words from others who know more about it than me and have personal experience, and if anyone could possibly share any useful tips.
I’m bumping this, hopeful that someone with something to say simply missed this thread.
I am interested in enlisting as well, possibly train to be a Naval Reactors engineer or work in Nuclear Operations (Academically, I qualify). I feel like it would be great experience to bring back home, to potentially work at a nuclear power plant or something.
Most people who I have talked to (Uncle who was in the Army during Vietnam, Cousin in law who is currently in the Army, family friends who was in the navy) all say it is a great experience, have met life long friends, and it even helps pay for their kids furthering their education. It is a great way to travel and see the world, as well.
Anyways, if anyone has a story to tell about their experience, I’d like to hear it!
@brandonphillips, I’m not in the military nor have I ever been, but I’ve met a few people who have, and they say it is not a very good place to be for individualists, for free thinkers. You are told what to do by someone else 24/7, and if you don’t like it, too bad, because you signed a contract. The benefits are nice, certainly, and a lot of stuff is provided for you so I guess you can make half-decent money. But you are basically a machine, your free will is greatly curbed and your free time is almost nonexistent. You get to go on shore leave, but are the places where the navy goes really places that you personally are interested in going? And there are strict rules about what you can and can’t do even on shore leave. Knowing what I know of you from your other posts, I would not advise it.
If you want to do graphic design and want to save money perhaps a better path would be to go to community college and take the basics, get good grades so you get a scholarship and transfer to a 4-year art school to finish up.
@joshbaber, i have been in the navy for about 4 years now and I work in the Navy’s nuclear field, my job title is Engineering Laboratory Technician (ELT). I maintain the chemistry of the nuclear reactor and the steam plant. I also ensure the radiation and radioactive contamination stay at safe levels along with various other jobs. If you have any questions i would be willing to answer them.
@brandonphillips, you kind of have to watch out for recruiters. Their job is to get you to join the navy and sometimes they will miss lead you. There maybe a job in the navy for graphic designers. If you go to join when there isn’t any open slots in the job you want. The navy will make you pick a job that they need filled.
@theskafish, I couldn’t have said it better man. I thought about it when I was like 16, but then I realized how degrading and psychologically scarring it probably is.
Plus there’s the fact that you’re working for people that cause death and destruction around the world in the interest of money and “power”. Ethically, I cannot even consider contracting with the military.
I’m making my own path. That to tranquility and positivity.
@irievibes, exactly. I hate working for the elite in the workforce as it is, there’s no way I’m taking a bullet or bomb for them.
I think the problem, especially with young people, is that they join the military without any real idea of what it means to be there and without a real idea of how long these contracts can be. It’s not like getting a shitty job where if you just can’t stand it anymore, you can give your two weeks or just walk out. The contract is legally binding, and you are basically signing your life away. I think the idea that any human being can basically own another is ludicrous.
@markerw, I only have a few questions.
1) Do you have any regrets about enlisting?
2) What do you plan to do after your contract expires, do you plan on having a career in the military, or do you plan on doing something else with your life?
3)(not really a question) If you have anything you feel someone who is interested about enlisting should know, or just have anything of your personal experience you would like to share, please do.
First off, it sounds like you want to join for the right reasons. The folks who are disappointed and unhappy are the ones who join to be James Bond and the ones who join because they have no choice financially. If you’re prepared for some physical hardship, determined to do some good, and have your eye set on a goal that you know you can obtain, then I say go for it.
Second, I just wanted to address those folks who say the military is a bad place for a free thinker. I understand where you’re coming from, but I think your viewpoint is a bit stereotypical and maybe slightly misinformed. I consider myself quite the free thinker and a pretty staunch individualist, and I am very content. Yes, there are bad leaders out there and yes, you have an obligation to follow their orders as long as they are humane. But there are also good leaders, and today’s military has evolved to the point that professional feedback is no longer something that will get you flogged. I am not a robot and I’m doing just fine, thankyouverymuch.
@brandonphillips, Also, if you’re looking for help paying for college, maybe look into ROTC. If you can get your hands on a scholarship, commissioning is a much cushier path than enlisting, and you can go to college BEFORE you serve instead of after.
I’m “dating” this dude and he was in the Navy for 3 years and trained for one. It sounded like he enjoyed it. He went to a lot of interesting places like Japan and other exotic places. He also said there are a good amount of gay guys haha.
This post really has no relevance to the topic, but i’de thought I’de throw in my 2 cents.
@brandonphillips, hey so I noticed you posted this 57 days ago. Are you closer to bootcamp now? How long did it take you to enter bootcamp since your enlistment?
I ask because I’ve talked to a recruiter and he said to remove all my neck tatts and come back when they’re all gone ~ which makes me upset that I have to wait even longer. I’ve been on hold for my future only because the neck tatts are holding me back and I’ve done 2 laser sessions so far so good and I’m just eager to enlist but I know that everyone will be in the DEP delayed entry program before going into bootcamp and starting their lives.
@lesterdeguzman, I actually broke my leg skateboarding a few weeks ago and am also on hold. I guess It’s a good thing that it happened because it has given me more time to evaluate my options and such. I have to basically build up my muscle strength and train for a few months before I can even enlist and go to basic.
The navy is still trivial, but it’s always there. I was thinking maybe the reserves? Surely it’s not like you’re held there for years. You try it and see how you like it for a year. I won’t be under people for my whole life. I have a huge apathetic philosophical side to myself and can (change paradigms) I guess I could say. Even though I’m a free thinker I know how to take things as a challenge and finish what I start. I have the plan to use my service to avail and strip the military of what I need/want in my life and then I’m out with a gain. If I die then I die. There is the kind peaceful side of me, then there’s the steel animal side that accepts hard times for the sake of experiencing the down sides to life and fights back to live through it and see freedom again because that only makes it sweeter.
@brandonphillips, my honest opinion, I don’t think the reserves is a good idea. If you’re in the reserves you don’t get the full benefits as you would if you were to be fully in the service. Personally I think that if your decision in joining is solely based upon school financial then its best to commit into the full service. The reserves you only get paid 200 somethin a month and no benefits like dental or health you acquire. If you’re born a rich kid whos parents can pay for your schooling then thats probably a good idea to do the reserves thing if you want to be on your own. I was going to do the reserves too until I found this out about that. My boyfriend of mines told me its better off to join in the full service rather than that and he I think he’s right. Might as well join in the full service if your going to go thru bootcamp to get your time and moneys worth
@joshbaber, Looking back nothing comes to mind that i really regret. After my contract expires, i plan on finishing college. Then my buddy and i plan on starting are own business together. In my experience there is a difference from being in the Nuclear side of the Navy and the really Navy. On the nuclear side there is much more freedom in your job. On the other hand you will be working more often, longer hours, and even on holidays. It is also very political and tightly monitored by civilian agencies. To compensate you for that the navy will give you a signing bonus between 20,000-35,000 dependent on your nuclear rate. As a nuke you also advance faster than any other rate in the navy. Then if you reenlist they will give about a 70,000-90,000 reenlistment bonus. Also the 2 years of schooling you do in the navy to become a nuke does count as college credit. They throw all that money at you because since you are nuclear qualified in the navy. Most civilian power plants are willing to take you without a college degree over college graduates.The civilian sector will also pay you more than the navy will. Most civilian power plants in my experience have a large amount of retired navy nukes. Even if you don’t like the navy you can have a career lined up in the civilian nuclear sector the day you get out.
@lesterdeguzman, You don’t have to get your tattoos removed. I know lots of people who had tattoos prior to joining. You just have to sign a waiver for the tatts and your recruiter gets it approved. You can get a wavier for anything to join. I know people with waivers for drug use and felonies. The military is usually willing to take almost anybody.
@markerw, yeah it used to be like that but since 2008-2010 high school students boomed in joining the navy so they set rules more restricted in ableing to join, and having tattoos visible (from the neck up) was one of them which I fell into that category of un-elegible canidates. The navy’s more strict on what they use to be lenient on. Shits changed ;-(