Astral projection experiment… Part Deux [Two, II]

2 years, 4 months ago

I’m up way too late and don’t want to go sleep yet so I’m going to go on to the second part of a three-part (hopefully) series.

If you haven’t seen, please partake:

http://www.highexistence.com/topic/i-want-participants-for-an-astral-projection-expt/

There were basically 2 responses:
“Meh.”
or
“HOLY SHIT!”

For the “Meh.” people, you have finished what I would want you to do with the experiment, and nothing else will be applicable.

For the “HOLY SHIT!” responses, you have some time to commit ahead of you. I would give it about a month, and then, finally, I can explain the actual premise of why I’m doing this. (Don’t worry its for a good cause… I think).

So you’ve completed some tasks I asked and you found that the music coupled with sleep deprivation, enhanced concentration (really focusing everything on the music) or marijuana brought about intense feelings – euphoria, paranoia (dark figures), extreme energies, etc.

I want to test two things now, that have nothing to do with astral projection

1) Can you reach those states of mind with just the music
– I.E. Is the memory of the event enough to trigger a parallel experience?
2) Can you reach those states of mind with just weed (provided you smoked).
– I.E. is your brains response changing to marijuana

These will be somewhat simple to answer, simply do one or the other, with the intent focus of reaching those states.

I’ll be eager to see your responses.

December 4, 2012 at 1:09 am

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Profile photo of Andrew A. Andrew A. (@biga69) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@ijesuschrist, I tried with just the music today and it didn’t do anything, this post will show you how high I get http://www.highexistence.com/topic/super-sensitive-to-the-grass/ . I’ll try the other part of your experiment soon and keep at it for the month your wanting. I’m very interested in where this is going and look forward to seeing your results. Good Luck brother!

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Profile photo of  Anonymous (@) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@biga69, Your post there is actually the purpose of this whole experiment. You have graduated from my experiment, but obviously nothing is stopping you from continuing.

You’ve basically indirectly answered my questions that were at the start of this whole experiment.

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Profile photo of Andrew A. Andrew A. (@biga69) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@ijesuschrist, smoked again today, with the same friend I smoked with on the first part of the experiment. We were talking about seeing through the eyes of cannabis consciousness and how we can see everything that ever lived or ever will live through our third eyes. We also talked about how when I don’t feel anything it actually means that my chakras are all equal but all being valved down. All I have to do to unlock my kundalini is open them all at the same time, kinda like what I think about with dragon ball z. Now listening to Terrence McKenna and blowing my mind and ego right out of the water. :)

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Profile photo of Jonny Jonny (@hazee) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

I’m a little disappointed that my experience was on the “Meh” side but, I’m going to be following you through to this third part because I have a good feeling that you’re cooking something pretty interesting. Lol. Love and Peace friend.

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Profile photo of Edward Bernays Edward Bernays (@edwardbernays) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

Yes I can get to that same state with just weed. I can even get to it just being sober. I guess its changed my perception of reality. This scared the shit out of me at first, but i have made peace with myself knowing I will never fully be able to answer this question. I have kind of changed the way I see reality, as crazy as that may sound. I feel like I don’t need to smoke to get high now.

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Profile photo of  Anonymous (@) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@edwardbernays, seriously

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Profile photo of Starry Eyed BLiND. Starry Eyed BLiND. (@cristinelizabeth) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@edwardbernays, What was scaryy? I haven’t really been following this thing, but I would like to know what you experienced ?

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Profile photo of  Anonymous (@) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@cristinelizabeth,

Maybe you should start following this thing, maybe you’ll find your answer.

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Profile photo of Edward Bernays Edward Bernays (@edwardbernays) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@cristinelizabeth, read the post mentioned above, http://www.highexistence.com/topic/super-sensitive-to-the-grass/ it kind of will give you an idea. But i feel that doing this experiment has brought me to this kind of conclusion. Its hard to explain. Reading my post above again, I didn’t really explain it as best i could.

@ijesuschrist, is that a question or an affirmation?

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Profile photo of Starry Eyed BLiND. Starry Eyed BLiND. (@cristinelizabeth) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@livelifeloving, lol thanks chief,
My baddd for asking him personally.
@edwardbernays, will do.

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Profile photo of  Anonymous (@) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@ijesuschrist, Tried this just with weed last night. I zoned in on the sounds around me, like the rain, my central heating, and the occasional creek of a floor board. And like last time I was seeing the visuals along with the sounds, and I was getting rushes through my body. I got to the same head space pretty much instantly, and within a minute I felt the sensation of tearing away from my body. Then (and I wish I hadn’t read what other people had said cause I’m guessing it was probably an influence) I saw a hooded figure looming over me. Stopped at this point, it felt way intense.

So yeah, I now have pretty easy access to this part of my mind, but it’s been too intense for me to take it any further so far. Will continue however…

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Profile photo of  Anonymous (@) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@edwardbernays, sorry meant to add a question mark:

“Seriously?”

@siantastic, Really.

Ok guys, both of your posts are really making me ready to push for part 3. But I will wait a tad bit longer.

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Profile photo of Edward Bernays Edward Bernays (@edwardbernays) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@ijesuschrist, yes being completely serious. Nice blog by the way!

@cristinelizabeth, I don’t mind your interest or personal question at all.what scared me was that I no longer felt grounded to this ‘reality’ as I once did. But I’ll never be able to answer questions about life and reality right? so why not just be happy.

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Profile photo of  Anonymous (@) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@edwardbernays, did you cheat and read the ending?

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Profile photo of Edward Bernays Edward Bernays (@edwardbernays) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@ijesuschrist, only read your blog after I came to this conclusion on my own (as I posted my thoughts before you put a link to your blog). But makes more sense after I read your blog.

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Profile photo of  Anonymous (@) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@ijesuschrist, I cheated and read it :) It explains some things. Going to keep practising and see where I get. Will message you with any updates so I don’t ruin it for anyone. But for now, thank you, seriously. Who the fuck knew I had such easy access to this shit!

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Profile photo of  Anonymous (@) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@edwardbernays, sorry yeah I wasn’t implying that you did that, I just was wondering if you read the ending or not :)

@siantastic, have you ever done a psychedelic?

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Profile photo of Edward Bernays Edward Bernays (@edwardbernays) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@ijesuschrist, no worries and thanks for conducting the experiment. As you’ve done this numerous times,do you think that my perceptions will change even more if i continue to do this or no?

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Profile photo of  Anonymous (@) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@ijesuschrist, Just mushrooms once quite a while ago. I was shit scared and hardly drank any of the tea, just saw some fog and shit. I was always scared, and not in the right head space to try them before, and have heard and witnessed some negative reactions due to psychedelics. I realise now that’s because those people were doing it just to get fucked up.

Now however it’s definitely something I’m hoping to do in the future. I realise the purpose of them now, or at least the power and how it can be used in a positive way. DMT is an interest, and I only very recently heard about iboga…and well, what’s possible with that blows my mind. I’m interested to see how far i can get without them though. I’m out of weed just now too, so gonna just listen to the music tonight and see if anything happens.

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Profile photo of  Anonymous (@) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@edwardbernays, It depends. You should definitely stop if things start to get weird… I still am not convinced that this was the main cause of whatever happened back then, but I was getting really far out there sober, the day after doing this stuff, and things were getting really fucking weird.

I would say keep doing it, as it may get more intense, but the key is to find good, new music for new experiences. By the time I had gone through all of infected mushroom I basically had had enough :)

@siantastic, In my case many things happened at the same time; I started smoking alone at night, I was introduced to infected mushroom, and I was also introduced to the “positive” effects of mushrooms – someone had told me about how they were the reason they went to college, so it got me very curious. Then I started doing the weed+music at the same time and thought that maybe this is what psychedelics were like.

I don’t know if this caused me to be extremely sensitive to psychedelics (including weed now) or if my completely incorrect assumption caused a massive surprise to a level of extreme discomfort? The feeling on marijuana is nothing like I felt with psilocybin, and I became really confused at that – I had thought, stupidly, that I was already experiencing a psychedelic feel, but I was way off. Although probably equally extreme as far as emotions go, psychedelics are just a different breed.

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Profile photo of  Anonymous (@) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@ijesuschrist, Ah ok, it’s good to know its a totally different feel. But like I said before I have never experienced anything this intense before. It has made me feel a little more prepared for a psychedelic, ha I guess I could be wrong.

And talking about weed sensitivity, last night, whenever I shut my eyes I was seeing stuff. That’s never happened before. It feels like that part of my mind is just there now, like anytime I want. Tonight will be the test I guess, using just music.

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Profile photo of  Anonymous (@) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@ijesuschrist, Yeah it didn’t work just with the music unfortunately. Once again though as soon as I shut my eyes I saw some visuals to the music. But my mind was racing, and I ended up lying there getting into the music and wanting to dance. Oops.

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Profile photo of  Anonymous (@) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@siantastic, Ok, interesting.

There is so much variability among everyone that I think its safe to say that this may be a pretty ‘extreme’ experience in some cases, but everyone is going to be different.

This whole thing has been really interesting though

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Profile photo of  Anonymous (@) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@siantastic, PS.

Sneak in these two songs and then I’ll never ask anything of you again (Do not listen to them before you go in!) must be high.

Bluetech – “Worthy” – SUPER HIGH VOLUME (its really chill)
Kwoon – “I lived on the moon”

Don’t play them as the first songs, but you know, at least 1 before to get in the “Zone”, then play these 2…

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