atheist or agnostic?

2 years, 6 months ago

not to exclude believers or people of faith. you have my respect, but…

for those who consider themselves to be either atheist or agnostic, why do you favor one position over the other?

July 26, 2012 at 6:41 pm

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Profile photo of BirdFlyingHigh BirdFlyingHigh (@birdflyinghigh) 2 years, 6 months ago ago

I’m an atheist: because the common use of the word “God” is something I know I don’t believe in, I describe myself with the word that is the refutation of that common belief.

I do not believe in a God with any sort of “human” emotion – jealousy, anger, even a personality – because I believe that those things that make us “human” are what separate us from our divine. We all have the divine within. It can be found inside as well as outside, and the idea of a “god” puts the divine firmly outside of ourselves.

Some people won’t leave you alone if you suggest that Jesus wasn’t a god. And I hate that attitude. So I describe myself as an atheist, albeit a highly spiritual one.

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Profile photo of Ray Butler Ray Butler M (@trek79) 2 years, 6 months ago ago

@birdflyinghigh, true, I believe in God but nothing that resembles the common view so just because I have redefined it does not mean what I believe is easily answerable or understandable with a simple “yes” to whoever poses such a general question. But knowing that anyone who would pose the question is not someone I would be willing to elaborate to.

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Profile photo of Sasho Stoyanov Anonymous (@) 2 years, 6 months ago ago

Everything is based on choice. One choice at a specific time prevents you from making a different choice at the same time. It doesn’t really matter what your faith is as long as you have faith in you. Believing in unknown power happens when one fears what don’t understand, no one would be saying “Thank God” if they knew exactly the chain-reactions that made that event possible, but “Thank God” is shorter and people know what you mean. If there’s anything that you should believe it’s love, no matter who gave it to you or what your beliefs are of what caused it.

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Profile photo of Tophthetomboy Tophthetomboy (@tophthetomboy) 2 years, 6 months ago ago

@blankey, Yes, same here.

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Profile photo of Ray Butler Ray Butler M (@trek79) 2 years, 6 months ago ago

@beyond, Yes, in my case, exploring Nihilism has resulted in me being able to see the “good” things in life as a product of love, a metaphysical manifestation of something divine, but it also allows me to see the “bad” things as scientifically explainable by cause and effect. That is something that no one can reasonably argue against except for their own value system which, as I have stated and can point out in Nihilism, is artificial.

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Profile photo of Ray Butler Ray Butler M (@trek79) 2 years, 6 months ago ago

Of course it is contradictory under common values but I acknowledge that my value system is artificial also, and as Sasho said, it is a choice I am free to make and I am well capable with living with it, infact its very design is optimal for my living with it.

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