Basic Rights versus Earned Rights
This is a strait up extension of conclusions I came to on this thread http://www.highexistence.com/topic/what-is-your-way-of-restoring-your-faith-in-humanity/
The thing is, I have no authority to define those myself and enforce them, I can help in the process though.
I know we all hate the idea of forcing anything on people, and you are absolutely right, I don’t object to that. But every philosophy you currently enjoy as a free right is being taken away from other people who deserve it.
This thread is not about forcing anything but only about coming to reasonable conclusions to provide everyone with the same freedom you enjoy. It is bad to enforce but it is empathic to try to find a way to appropriately justify everything our civilization enforces and ignores.
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I am actually quite strict on how I see things. I believe you are responsible for your own, parents should be giving their kids what they need to become self-sufficient, but this cannot always be the case. In the case of povert, even the parents don’t know how to be self-sufficient and we all have a duty to give them that opportunity.
But once given the opportunity you have a duty to yourself and society to use it, if you don’t then there is no free ride, we deck out a factory floor with cots and feed them mass crap for food, this gives them motivation to move into that self-sufficiency, or stay in a shit life. Certain things we provide, like tools to seek work and to make them presentable, even educate them some more, but no money.
People should lose their privilages, freedoms and rights, the more they neglect their duties such as self-sufficiency, not deliberately harming others in malice and staying in a state where their choices are not adversely effected by addiction (not just drugs but any state of dependancy that causes you to neglect your duties as a citizen).
The fact is that you have no real self-determination without achieving your self-sufficiency anyway so they are not losing anything by coming under protections. But no one is ever really fully self-sufficient, but people can attain this to a reasonable level and it is not asking too much. We just have the duty as a global civilization to make sure people have the opportunity to become self-sufficient and we don’t do that without some kind of practical plan.
@thelaughingfool, I beg to differ, empathy is a natural value that conforms with the fundamental principles of the universe. We naturally have, we naturally use it and we know it exists as much as we know ourselves to exist at all.
For people with empathy it is the humane thing to do, for people only interested in making money it is the logical thing to do, without it we lose it all. Yes it will cost at first, probably for some time, but once you start to get on top of things you start to see a marked improvement. Once all the issues are solved then it is a frign golden era.
Here’s what I think. That guy quoting Osho needs to shut the fuck up and have his own opinion.
I mean, fuck that guy. Trevor Fletcher. What a fucking loser and stuff, and oh how offensive I am and how useless someone is.
I said that because Basic rights in addition with earned rights is what everyone does all the time. On a forum on the Internet, a few would hold their ground without showing any kind of gratitude and connection. That Trevor guy is a pussy actually, a spammer searching for himself, still struggling if his basic rights were earned.
Everyone has the right to talk to themselves, hence the attention this thread has and the time you wasted. Everyone is making judgment calls because that’s how the mind works, it’s observing, judging. ESTIMATING.
You never earned anything, you’re a witness of being a receiver.