Books that explain Quantum (meta)Physics

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St. Louis (@stlouis)    1 year, 9 months ago

Hi or should I say He?

This is my first post on HighExistence, wiehoew. Recently I watched the movie Athene’s Theory of Everything: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbh5l0b2-0o

Very interesting, I recommend this one to everyone!

Although I study science, the quantum physics part sometimes goes to deep in detail. Can anyone recommend books that explain the theory clear (not basicly! but deep in detail)? I prefer books that explain also some metaphysic phylosofic insights.

Thank you!

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Anonymous (@)1 year, 9 months ago ago

“References to quantum mechanics are particularly popular among peddlers of pseudo-scientific claptrap. Quantum mechanics is widely supposed to make weird claims, and hardly anyone understands it, so if you start spouting references to it in support of your own bizarre teachings, people will assume you must be very clever and probably won’t realize that you are, in fact, just bullshitting.”

- Stephen Law

The truth is that quantum mechanics demands a high level of mathematical understanding. After a number of years I am now exploring differential geometry, and I wouldn’t dare say I fully understand QM (you know what Feynman said).

Phrases like “Schrodinger’s cat” have become popular on the internet, and more often than not people don’t understand that there are many interpretations of QM that aren’t experimentally distinguishable. Just keep in mind that explaining it in “layman’s terms” is very inadequate, and people often end up bastardizing the material by coming up with “philosophical” interpretations…even when they have the mathematical/scientific literacy of a rock (for example, Deepak Chopra).

If you want an “accessible” book of good quality to start out with, here:

http://www.amazon.com/How-Teach-Physics-Your-Dog/dp/1416572295

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D.I. (@thekingofthenorth)1 year, 9 months ago ago

http://www.amazon.ca/Schrodingers-Kittens-Search-Reality-Mysteries/dp/0316328197

@dalniente,
true what you say, i think most people are looking for an avenue of pseudo-intellectualism for which to express an intrinsic curiosity. but education is always the answer!

@stlouis,
this book is pretty solid, i read it in highschool, physics isnt the area i am pursuing in my academic career currently but this book has the background as well as some somewhat modern ideas regardsing quantum physics without making you do math

but honestly, if you cant do math, you will never begin to understand the hard sciences like physics and chemistry.

also, just because it has a cool name like “Meta-physics” does not mean that its anymore interesting the capillary action! another cool physical phenomenon that carries over into chemistry!

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Anonymous (@)1 year, 9 months ago ago

@thekingofthenorth, math is the language of physics, and as for the other sciences…

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/purity.png

That’s not to say there aren’t important concepts to grasp in biology, but a solid understanding of the subject requires chemistry.

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Taylor Little (@tlrlittle)1 year, 9 months ago ago

I recently watched the video too and had some of the same questions. I am studying Physics in University and lately I’ve been really interested in this exact kind of stuff. Trying to connect spirituality and science. The sad truth seems to be our society doesn’t care about spirituality, and I get the feel that research into these areas has been low priority and only pursued by a few pioneers, many who have even been suppressed.

If you are looking for Book’s specifically about “Athene’s Theory” start by checking out Athene’s other popular videos on you tube, everything from naughty love tips and eating worms, to video games, lots of videogames. Athene claims to have compiled the research of a few scientists experiments, therefore it’s his interpretation of research which isn’t even his, If you want to look into those, well I would hope he references them.

If you are looking for Book’s about quantum physics, the textbook I use that had a really good intro to modern physics was Physics for Scientists and Engineers by Serway & Jesuit which you can just get off the pirate bay, but there’s countless textbooks. You’ll have to understand though that just reading the material you’ll only get an idea. People devote their lives to this stuff and are still confused.

If you want books about spirituality well I would start here http://www.youtube.com/user/thespiritscience and you will be lead to a lot of different radical ideas, but lots of great resources that would normally be overlooked.

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St. Louis (@stlouis)1 year, 9 months ago ago

@tlrlittle, Thank you for the suggestion, I know the spirit of science documentary (also read The Ancient Secret of The Flower of Live Volume I). If you’re interested in the spirit of science, you should read this books.

@dalniente, I can do math, cause I studied 4 years (almost 5) bio-engineering. Schrodinger Kittens sounds interesting!

@dalniente, Every book has something information that can make a sudden ‘click’ in your brain. Like a new piece of puzzle falls in the right place. I like to teach physics to my dog.

For christmas I recieved some new interesting books. One of them: The self-aware universe – Amit Goswami. It has also a chapter written about Quantum Physics. The book Biocentrism – Robert lanza & Bob Sherman sounds interesting as well, good suggestion Taylor Little ;)

Merry Christmas!
Vrolijk Kerstfeest (Dutch)

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Anonymous (@)1 year, 9 months ago ago

@dalniente,

the quote about people bullshitting referring to anything with the word “quantum” is pretty true.

i like bringing it up in regards to spirituality on these grounds though:

1. the standard model of physics and science as we know it explain everything…except the biggest questions. especially consciousness. what more important subject to fully understand than consciousness? in my opinion.
2. quantum physics showing that observation can affect the observed, and this to me has a connection to the idea that life is just consciousness experiencing itself. also how two electrons a wide distance apart react to each other instantly. i intuitively feel that this has a deep connection to spirituality, whether it be “oneness” or “collective unconscious” etc im not sure. but i just know.

ya know?

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Anonymous (@)1 year, 9 months ago ago

@stlouis, just be aware of people who abandon the actual science and jump to inappropriate conclusions (Amit Goswami has done that).

@jameslancaster, consciousness is not very well understood, but neither is quantum mechanics. My point is that people should not take one to magically “answer” the other when there is no strong evidence behind their claims.

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/quant-ph/pdf/9907/9907009v2.pdf

http://www.pnas.org/content/106/11/4219.full.pdf+html

http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/3049/

There are many interpretations of QM that are not experimentally distinguishable. Running away with them can get you into trouble.

~”im not sure. but i just know. ya know?”~

No, I don’t.

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Anonymous (@)1 year, 9 months ago ago

@dalniente,

those links look great, thanks!
you’re right. it doesn’t magically answer it as QM is very young and not understood fully yet.

lol you misquoted me. i meant, i am not sure which of the following it is connected to: oneness, collective unconscious, etc. but i have an intuitive feeling that quantum mechanics definitely shows potential to explain spiritual phenomena.

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Anonymous (@)1 year, 9 months ago ago

@jameslancaster, I was being sarcastic.

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Anonymous (@)1 year, 9 months ago ago

@dalniente,

you can never be sure in writing hahaha

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Anonymous (@)1 year, 9 months ago ago

@jameslancaster, that is true (with some exceptions). :)

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