Damn this is pretty intense.
Wow. That guy must have really pissed them off. Had “wikileaks supporters” claim sexual harassment, and they’re storming around the world breaching peacekeeping boundaries to get him?
It’s a good thing for him that he has so much attention around him or he would have been dead long ago. They obviously want him BAD, and they sure wouldn’t do this shit just for any ole sexual offense allegations.
They are pissed as fuck at the marvelous gift of transparency he has been giving to the world, and don’t want a bit more of that gift given by him or by courageous like kind, so much so they’ll look like a county with third-world lack of manners (tainted with aggression) to do it.
From what Ive heard, Assange is more than willing to stand in court in Sweden were it not for the fact that Sweden would immediately hand him over to the U.S. where he will almost certainly be tortured or put to death for ‘treason’.
He will certainly go through far worse than Bradley Manning did.
What has happened to Manning is disgusting, it makes me sick reading about it. Its appalling to read what he went through, considering he hasn’t even been proven guilty yet.
I really like the song but as the top comment on that video says, sad there is a need for it.
Wow, Ecuador represent. I’m especially proud to be an Ecuadorian right now.
It’s amazing what governments will go through to get someone who leaked the shit they don’t want people to know.
@nightowl, How do you know it’s not just staged, the whole thing? I know it sounds far fetched, but we don’t really know what’s going on, do we? Why would the media be giving him so much support if they wanted to destroy him? It’d be wiser to shut up about it and not make such a big fuzz about it. But then again, it’s the media, it’s pretty fucking retarded a lot of the time. I’m not implying that anything is staged, I don’t believe it is, but it’s a possibility.
@jackflash, Exactly. It’s really fucking disgusting. We do follow a rule that we do not hand over criminals to countries where such things are likely to happen. But whenever the US wants someone, our government just hands them over. They only make this exception for the USA, and this far everyone who’s been handed over has been tortured and/or killed. It’s against the fucking law, but whenever the USA is involved our government is a bunch of asskissing bitches.
Oh, and there was never any evidence whatsoever of the so called sexual assaults. Which, again, normally means that the suspect cannot legally be penalized at all. But again, since the USAssholes are involved the law doesn’t mean anything apparently.
It’s truly sickening. But something tells me they won’t get him, it seems he might find his way to ecuador. And he seems like a bright clever man, I’m confident that he will figure out a solution. I sure hope so, the man’s a hero.
@manimal, I’d be willing to say you’re more likely right about it being staged than not.
Only thing is, I have to doubt Assange is such an actor, because it wouldn’t seem like he’s been playing the right game. Seems like he’s being trying to throw wrenches of clarity in the foggy gears of the manipulation and they’re having to play “the game” real hard to keep it going.
@manimal, And you my friend do not understand how this fucked up country works, WE TRY TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE, and damnit that did require caps. NOTHING makes a difference, our country has been corrupted to the core, the normal working people of our country realize whats going on, we know but nothing can be done about it theres something bigger going on in this country and it’s going to take something catastrophic to change it. Don’t accuse an individual in this case. I refuse to support any type of political action this country makes. Because the people in washingto are numb to our voice and they are making laws and loopholes to preserve themselves in their positions of control.
@wareagles5o, based on your statement, it seems to me you’re more likely to not know how this fucked-up country works :[ This is no attack, but the man speaks the truth.
The FEW you demonize can only get away with what the public wants. Frankly, “we” have asked for every little bit, and in fact fund it with our daily lives which we’re evidently content enough within to stay. No?
If they keep it in the public’s wants by keeping full awareness out of the public eye, it is nonetheless improper to blame them 50/50% when the populace is going 99% of the ignoring, facilitating, and even asking.
@nightowl, Im not content at all if thats what your saying I am. I dont want to live here, other older people dont really have a choice. Their stuck here with their family and other bullshit they’ve accumulated. Don’t question what I know I’ve lived here my whole life and realize alot that other people don’t about the u.s as soon as i get enough education to do what i want I’m leaving here. They’ve trapped us as apopulace in this country their making it harder and harder to leave because of everything you have to have at such a young age like all types of insurance and you “have” to get a job. It’s just societal norms have fucked this country up. Their not what they should be.
@wareagles5o, lots of what you said I can agree with, especially about societal norms being the perversion of true sense. You’re correct; remember that this has little to do with the government. Government, media, corporations, they take advantage of it and cultivate it, but they did not seed it and they do not DO it. It’s like taking credit for the tomatoes your plants grew, the tomato grew it, it did all the work itself! You simply gave it the environ to do what it will, and helped it along. No differently with those you demonize.
You said “I dont want to live here, other older people dont really have a choice. Their stuck here with their family and other bullshit they’ve accumulated.”
You’re only affirming this to yourself. This is how people trap themselves, then blame others for the illusion of a trap.
I’m seldom one to tell somebody that they’re wrong, but frankly, you’re starkly wrong about this. If you release the hesitations and inhibitions that you sustain with these rationalizations and justifications, you’ll find that at all times are you completely free to do WHATEVER you want. Right now, you’re using your limitless freedom to tell a fairy-tale about limited freedom.
@wareagles5o, Try to make a difference? Yea right, and my name is Santa Claus. Stating your opinion is not trying to make a difference, voting is not trying to make a difference, doing nothing is not trying to make a difference. Unless you’re actively working on defeating them, you’re not even trying AT ALL.
What the hell do you mean nothing can be done about it? That’s the dumbest, weakest statement I’ve heard in a very long time. Of course there’s lots that can be done about it, people are just too fucking lazy and irresponsible to take action. And that’s their own fucking choice. There is nobody else to blame.
And what do you mean corrupted to the core? Corruption come FROM the core. The core was rotten all along, people are being shitheads with shitty intentions, they form a nation and it “turns to shit” (it was shit from the get-go.) The only real function of authorities is to act scapegoats, so people have someone to blame instead of taking responsibility. If people have someone to blame, they don’t solve their problems, they give all responsibility (= power = freedom) to someone else and thus they’re easily herded. If people weren’t irresponsible lazy fuckwads then the problem wouldn’t exist.
If you’re not fighting, you’re not fighting. You’re just complaining, not doing anything about it. And you DO support their political actions, because you do nothing about, and you keep giving them the power to do so.
YOU are obviously the one who doesn’t understand how the nation works. It works the same way human (and animal) power structures have always worked. The less responsibility you take, the lower you stand in the hierarchy. It’s logical and sound, corruption only comes into play when people take part in this game but refuse to accept the rules. You no like, you no play, you go somewhere else. You have no rights unless you earn them, that’s how it’s always been and always will be.
@manimal, People have been trying to make a difference for a long time. Yes you are right the corruption is from the core i put it down wrong. And if its like that then the only way for the people to make a difference is by throwing the whole system out. Which will never happen because of the way things already are so if you look at it none of us have an argument for anything pertaining to the goverment. If you stay here your supporting that(which sadly yes i am doing for the present), personally I dont want anything else to do with it so ill get my nut from it (college education) and leave. Simple as that.
@wareagles5o, They haven’t been trying much at all, that’s just make-believe. They did just like you, complained but didn’t take any action. That’s not even trying. And still, trying is not enough, one must do. “Do or do not, there is no try.”
I’m not supporting your nation’s actions because I’m not giving anything to it. And even if that was the case, I’m not complaining, and I don’t give a damn. So there’s really no reason for me to do anything more than I’m already doing.
It wouldn’t require throwing out the system, all it would require is for people to change their habits a little bit. It’s not complicated or difficult at all, people are just fucking lazy. And the notion that throwing out the system cannot be done under the current circumstances is nothing short of lunatic, of course it can be done. In a whole lot of different ways. Though that solution doesn’t really lead anywhere, you just replace one shithead with another, with some chaos in between.
Your college education won’t be worth much outside the system, just so you know. Well well, if that’s life you want to live, blaming others and following orders and then complaining abou it, then do so. Just know, that those of us who don’t, are living the fucking dream. And the only difference between us and the rest of the world… is that we don’t give our power away.
Strange how an Australian who travelled to Britain seeking asylum in an Equidorian embassy while being threatened with extradition to Sweden has turned into an argument about who knows more about US politics.