Buddhism vs Law of Attraction

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Alex
(@ajgg) 1 year, 2 months ago ago

The aim of Buddhism is to extinguish desire and ultimately achieve enlightenment. But the Law of Attraction says we should have a burning desire and move towards it with resolve. What are your thoughts on how to resolve this?

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Jason
(@thinknowlivenow) 1 year, 2 months ago ago

Buddhism is focused heavily on internal mastery (which is very good), and The Law of Attraction is based around the strategic use of intent to manifest desires. The Law of Attraction is at work right now, whether you believe it or not; every single thought in your head is “pulling” probable futures towards you as you read this.

It’s a matter of broken logic, really. There is no problem anymore than there is a problem with eating a tomato or a cucumber; nobody says you have to choose just one. Put them together into a salad and see what happens ; )

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Daniel
(@qwuakeup) 1 year, 2 months ago ago

@Jason

Ultimately everything is internal mastery, even manifestation, for all that is outside is within. But I understand what your’e saying.

In Buddhism, it is also commonly stated that “your thoughts matter”.

What I think this refers to is actually that your thoughts, turn into matter.

The modern day LOA focuses on achieving material objects, such as cars and houses, as seen in the secret. This could just be introducing people to a new perspective of life. Draw people in by material objects so they can learn, and find out that material objects themselves don’t make you happy. And thus begin their spiritual path.

Attracting material objects is using the law of attraction in the ‘left-minded” way, very based into physical reality. There needs to be a balance, between earth and spirit and I think this is what Buddhism is trying to achieve. A balance point in our duality, similarly with Ying-Yang.

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Frälsaren
(@manimal) 1 year, 2 months ago ago

Law of A is running constantly, whether you deliberately use it or not. Buddhism is so full of religious dogma, I doubt that the actual buddha really advocated that extinguishing of desire.

Desire is life, it’s the connection that turns the duality into a whole.

Using the law of A is also a part of inner mastery. Ignoring things like these, and even saying these things are wrong, that’s not enlightened at all. That’s fear, nothing but fear.

Check out this thread http://www.highexistence.com/discussions/topic/possessions-and-desires/

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WryJester
(@wryjester) 1 year, 2 months ago ago

I don’t know, I’m with Daniel on this. Yea, while Buddha advocated extinguishing desire, I would imagine it could have been taking out of context.

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Grand Kahlib
(@kahlib) 1 year, 2 months ago ago

to me it seems like one of those situations where you either have to drop one of these ideas, or be able to hold two contradictory terms at the same time.

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Alex
(@hollowinfinity) 1 year, 2 months ago ago 1

Or perhaps Buddhism was referring to extinguishing egotistical desire. The law of attractions works outside the ego, and Buddhism focus’ on tackling the ego and freeing yourself from it.

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Grand Kahlib
(@kahlib) 1 year, 2 months ago ago

I don’t know Alex. From what little I understand of Buddhism, it seems pretty specific in what it means by freeing one’s self from materialistic desires.

And mANIMAl, just because you don’t agree with the dogma of Buddhism doesn’t mean you have to paint a different picture of what it is. You say life is desire: to me, that is exactly why Buddhism seeks to free one from the cycle of reincarnation- because both life and desire are held to be ultimately meaningless.

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Jason
(@thinknowlivenow) 1 year, 2 months ago ago

Freeing one from material desires could also be referencing the transcendence of materialism. This would imply that one’s actions aren’t controlled by material objects (and their acquisition), but they may still have them or get them. They just aren’t the driving incentive to do anything in life; there is a big difference.

Those who transcend money are no lounger bound by its control, yet will most likely still be using it since they live in a society that functions on value etc. There is a fine line between rejection and transcendence, and as usual, binary thinking makes it impossible for most people to discern.

A lot of this romanticized buddhism/religion stuff causes people to start thinking with a hammer, just like any scientific theory. Don’t think in terms of absolutes; think of all of these ideologies as small slices/reflections/shadows of a higher holistic truth.

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Alex
(@ajgg) 1 year, 2 months ago ago

Wow, these are all great ideas. thanks guys

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Alex
(@hollowinfinity) 1 year, 2 months ago ago

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-stanley/buddhism-cosmology-and-ev_b_1286165.html

^^^read this.

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Jason
(@thinknowlivenow) 1 year, 2 months ago ago

^”We might know that quantum physics has revealed solid matter to be forms of energy and process, but we prefer not to consider the implications of the fact that, with such discoveries, materialism is transcending itself.”

Jackpot.

Also, I don’t know why more scientists don’t hypothesize that the big bang was just the ass-end of a black hole, dumping matter into a new space, where it has evolved into the universe we observe today. We know these things are the only phenomena capable of completely destroying the constant that is the speed of light, so this seems very, very logical to me.

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Evan L
(@elmoak) 1 year, 2 months ago ago

When synthesizing eclectic ‘philosophies’, viewing things from creative angles is important. Contradictions are unimportant if you keep in mind the similarities.

They/we are all trying to answer the same basic questions on some level.

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Joris
(@joris) 1 year, 2 months ago ago

I’m halfway in The Power of Now, and I think this book kind of talks about this too. Being present is a good way to feel good, you shouldn’t have your sights on the future thinking reaching your goals will make you happy.
Maybe read a few pages of the book to see if you like it. I’m gonna try to reread the beak after I’m finished to really soak in the information and apply it to real life.

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Grand Kahlib
(@kahlib) 1 year, 2 months ago ago

While I am into more of what Evan L calls “eclectic philosophy” I still recognize that these worldviews have irreconciliable differences. Therefore I cannot truly say I believe in any of them, but something which transcends them. Just because I borrow a belief from Buddhism does not make me a Buddhist, nor does it make the traditional views of Buddhism flawed (within the context of it’s own system). Therefore I must also recognize that while I may try to understand it, I will never be viewed as more than a tourist to the true adherents of these religions. Because I can be honest about these things, I gotta say that the differences do matter- and in a standpoint of the process of elimination perhaps they matter more than what they have in common.

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Psychonaut
(@soulpilgrim) 1 year, 2 months ago ago

@Joris. Download the audiobook & play it in your car. It really sinks in then.

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Exist
(@exist) 1 year, 2 months ago ago

You can pretty much integrate both into your experience.

One thing I’ve found is that meditation has increased my focus by an unprecedented magnitude. With a clear, relaxed mind, I can sometimes focus on an object or task so deeply that it’s like there’s nothing in the universe except it and my awareness.

So yeah I’d say that comes first, learn to master your mind so that when it comes to a task, you can devote your full conscious awareness to it and engage it with your full effort, externally and internally.

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Trevor Emdon
(@tremdon) 7 months ago ago

@ajgg, I think the Buddhist precept that desirelessness is desirable (lol) has been misunderstood.

The purpose of life is to fulfil desires. It is impossible to live a physical life without desire. Even the desire to eat or pee or sleep will eventually rear itself, won’t it?

Therefore, I believe Buddhism is teaching that desirelessness is ultimate fulfilment – a state of nirvana where even the desire to be alive in physical form is no longer present.

Meanwhile, whilst we are in physical form, the law of attraction teaches that the attainment of all our desires is possible for us. Desires are there so that we may follow our personal dharma, (path), not so that they can be thwarted and we end up living frustrated and unfulfilled. As we grasp this teaching and begin to live it we are also progressing towards our personal nirvana because we come increasingly to the understanding that life’s only purpose is to experience desires and have fun with the challenge of fulfilling them.

Eventually we will reach a point – perhaps many lifetimes from now or maybe in this one – where a desire will be fulfilled at the same instant it is experienced, thus making desire itself irrelevant … and the Buddhist ideal will then have been achieved.

There is therefore no conflict between the two teachings.

Hope that makes sense!
Trevor.

http://wizardofwisdom.com

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