Manimal has a secret library with all the real facts. haha :)
Guys, just masturbate 2 times in a row and then see how you feel. Do you need a scientist to tell you that it drains your energy and makes you tired etc.? Why do you quickly fall asleep after sex? All good athletes in any sport don’t have sex before games. In world championships and in various tournaments, football players (soccer) are forbidden to see their wifes/girlfriends so that they can be in shape. I could go on and on. Just masturbate and see for yourself ;) Girls are lucky, they can have as many orgasms as they want and feel even more energized. Good for them :)
@manimal, you know nothing about the human body or human physiology.
Semen does not contain nutrients in such an amount that any health effects can be expected from ejaculating multiple times a day, the notion that one ejaculation loses more nutrients than you take in per day is absurd (just look at the volume, and even with half a brain you would realise this is nonsense). I have also never heard of anybody going sterile from prostate, which is likely nothing more than a rumor (because the prostate does not contribute to spermatogenesis).
Being tired and sleepy after sex is because sex is exercise and because of hormones, not because your body somehow ‘feels’ it just lost nutrients…
uh @manimal, i’m kinda wondering why the HELL you think you have the expertise or right to determine if someone is a “real lesbian”? Straight people don’t all act the same way or have the same sexual wants so why should it be different for gays? Also, many if not most girls and women have small/delicate hands with fingers that can’t reach the G-spot–intense stimulation, although you probably have some superior knowledge on that too. Finally, you made the comment about sex toys being “fucked up,” not some specific toy, which is why Ellie brought up lesbians.
@ Manimal, where did you get your information on that? I can’t see it possible that masturbation drains all of your nutrients that you get in a day, if that was true… well, lets just say many many many men would be dead. hahah. I’d just like to know where you’re coming from on that. (no pun intended.)
Well OK, if you guys don’t feel loss of energy after ejaculation, then fine. But in my experience, this is not the case. For example, if I have sex when I have a small cold, my cold gets worse. I’ve had it happen several times and for me is enough as proof.
Well I can see this brewing into something interesting….
I agree with Tits, I’m happy with my one way street. I’m not opposed to the idea, maybe I’ll want to try it one day, but for now no thanks.
As for ejaculations losing nutrients, I wonder how many nutrients you can fit in 1-10 mL of fluid??? Not too many….
As for loss of energy, for me it’s weird. When I have sex, or when my girlfriend gives me an orgasm, I get sleepy for like 10-15 min. But, when I give myself an orgasm, it wakes me up. So I guess its all about mindset, and how you allow yourself to feel afterwards. (When I’m alone, its “well, thats done, time to move on to other things”, but when I’m with my girl, its “Ah…… that was awesome. time to cuddle.”)
@bryan “I wonder how many nutrients you can fit in 1-10 mL of fluid??? Not too many….”
Do you know the size of a “nutrient”? Do you know the entire volume of nutrients in a body and you can conclude that 1-10 ml is very small compared to that? I also don’t know but I try not to assume stuff. There has to be some Hethens that practice medicine and know this stuff.
@steven It does contain that much nutrition. An ejaculation from a healthy man contains every element of the human body, every sperm cell has the stuff needed to become a new human. That’s a lot of proteins and fats. And then there’s the huge loss of testosterone, and the massive amount of energy used by your body to ejaculate. You should be able to understand this without any science, but feel free to look it up if you can’t use common sense.
As for not knowing anything about the human body, well I just happen to be one of the healthiest people you would ever meet, with countless hours of research and experience in the field, and I’ve studied biology at the university. Health is extremely important to me, especially sexual health, it’s something I’ve put lots of effort and time into learning. How much do you know about this shit? Don’t make retarded claims, especially when it’s obvious that you’re the one who doesn’t know what you’re talking about.
@marissa Women who like penis = straight. Women who like women = lesbian. Women who like both = bi. It’s simple. I think sex toys are fucked up, but that’s just my opinion, why do you even care? It’s just an opinion.
@mikeal Haha you wanker XD jacking off is not an exercise, it’s entertainment. It doesn’t make you stronger at all.
So Manimal you never choke your monkey?
I have gone months before without jacking off and the only real difference that I’ve noticed is that I will occasionally have to walk around with a hard on for 20-30 minutes.
What I remember from before is Manimal posted a list of what the equivalent nutrients was lost in an ejaculation. I dont remember it now, but when I saw it it was unreal to me. Was something like 12 eggs, 2 8 ounce steaks….a huge amount of food. And it was hard for me to imagine that that much could fit inot such a small thing.
It’s true, I don’t know much about nutrients and such, but I do know that you cannot fit 2g of protein into something that is only 1g total. (arbitrary numbers there, don’t quote me on that) I did assume that it worked equally for volume, IE you cannot lose 25mL of nutrients in a 10mL ejaculation(arbitrary again). But again, I do not know the size of “a nutrient”, so it is very well possible that we mash huge amounts of nutrients into such a small thing.
They have said that the universe can compress to the size of a baseball…
EDIT:: Googling “nutrients lost ejaculation” brought up this: http://forum.grasscity.com/sex-love-relationships/547777-guys-everytime-you-ejaculate-you-lose-following-nutrients.html I thought it was an interesting read.
This might help the conversation. I don’t know if it’s true, but it’s food for thought.
“.The health issues involved in *over* ejaculation is brushed aside by most Western doctors but it makes complete, logical sense (and is accepted by many physicians in China and Japan).
High ejaculation frequency does help to prevent prostate cancer because it removes carinogenic, dead sperm which is vulnerable to infection. Have you ever heard of the French paradox? This doesn’t mean that there aren’t serious consequences to over ejaculation.
When men ejaculate they do lose nutrients and hormones.Most of the nutrients lost are trace amounts but zinc (around 5 mg), selenium and copper are lost in significant amounts. Upon ejaculation, testosterone, serotonin, acetycholine and dopamine are also lowered, prolactin is raised. High levels of prolactin are associated with poor mood, tiredness, and many different health issues. Prolactin also stimulates the production of the enzyme 5 alpha reductase which converts testosterone into DHT, DHT is the hormone that causes male pattern baldness…
DHT is produced when a man has an erection or is sexually stimulated but, as far as I know, the DHT produced is bound to the penile tissues. The wisest thing to do is to make love frequently while limiting actual ejaculation to once a week.
The truth does not care whether or not it’s politically incorrect. It’s a hard pill to swallow but nature’s only concern is the survival of individual genes, not the organism. .”
So all these nutrients that I’ve got in my balls… If I don’t “waste” them having sex or what not, will I use them? I understand that they are stored there, but do we draw back any on the regular? I, at times, have had sex everyday for months on end and I did not waste away to nothingness… In fact I was a year round athlete and action sport enthusiast. never had any noticeable negative effects
@bobby Getting personal, eh? Well, no I don’t. Haven’t in over a year and won’t do it ever, it’s just a waste of time and energy and health. I’m attracted to women, not my hands. I don’t shoot my stuff in the girls either. It stays where it is until it’s time to make babies.
@devon It’s not like they’re trapped in there. Nutrients in your body are nutrients in your body, they are redistributed. And when you constantly waste your juice, your body has to constantly refill, sapping you continuously. This is high priority for the body (evolution has favored this) which means the rest of your body will pretty much have to sacrifice itself in order for more swimmers to form. When you don’t do that, the body doesn’t have to refill it, which means you don’t have to steal elements from the rest of your body to refill your balls. That’s just the basic stuff. Then there’s the world of sexual kung fu, which is another topic completely.
@bridget Here’s the thing. The ass feels great to the dick, that’s why we want to do that. It’s a question of giving pleasure. Women don’t have dicks so there’s no point for a straight man to have something up his chimney. But there are also a lot of women (and men) who like to have things up their rear, it’s all a question of preference.
If you are a bit skeptical about putting anything in your ass, and want to get a little sneak peak to see if you like the feeling, you can get your partner to gently push and massage the area between your testicles and your ass. It barely touches your prostate, I think it would be a great way to give it a try.
Hey @manimal, a friend of mine was scarred for life because his father caught him masturbating, (then proceeded to beat the shit out of him), and now he refuses to do it. Now he has a literal case of BLUE BALLS, as in, his sperm are dying because his genitalia aren’t getting any use and the tubes are backing up. The doc gave him 2 options: Get his sperm frozen (sperm-cicle ftw) or never have kids. My friend can only get off through actual sex or a girl doing it for him, but his girlfriend broke up with him and now everything has been backed up.
Not masturbating for men is unnatural. *we evolved with long enough arms for a reason people! ;) haha* It might contain nutrients, but a little bit of jizz doesn’t contain all of your protein, I’d be willing to say less than 10 mg, because the ejaculations for a day is only 2-3 ounces at most for a day, all it carries is the genetic material by a few million sperm, what they need to survive until they can reach the fallopian tubes, and excretions from the prostate and other glands. After that, the female feeds and nurtures the growing fetus. 98% of the work is done by the woman in a pregnancy, we just give the other half of the dna. So it isn’t “every sperm cell has the stuff needed to become a new human,” in all technicality. Just a little bit of dna. I lose more dna when i get my hair cut than I do masturbating 100 times.
I can’t find anything about what minerals and vitamins are in sperm, although everywhere I go they usually say most ‘elements’ are TRACE amounts, meaning barely noticeable. Albeit, some things are bound to be more abundant.
I average taking in 50-60 grams of protein a day, if a jizz of 10 mg, that isn’t a problem. I’m not sure how many mg you can fit into 15 ml, but i’m going to guess not too many, no more than 500 at the most, and thats a stretch i would think. matter of fact, 15 ml of anything in the body (except maybe spinal fluid,) isn’t that much of a change.
I agree with Manimal on one thing, stretching of the anus/damage could be (likely is) a bad thing, but that would only happen from hardcore use >_>
also other proofs that masturbation isn’t terrible. Opinions or otherwise. But hey, personal choice is fine by me.
Where I’ve learned my stuff: Health class, 10th grade, lol.