Can anyone else not smoke marijuana anymore?

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Dom (@dominickjohn)    2 years, 6 months ago

Psychoactives definitely turn on (or off) a part of your brain every time they enter your system. No two ways about it. If you’re on the precipice of a thought or idea and you smoke, you’re either going to have some kind of breakthrough, or it’s going to dominate your thoughts. Depends on what you’re doing and if they’re other stimulus around too.

For me, personally, I never get profound revelations from cannabis anymore, but it still puts me in a better frame of mind to have really long, elaborate, trippy conversations. If I want aid in turning inside and having a deep think session, stripping my ego away: mushrooms.

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Dom (@dominickjohn)2 years, 6 months ago ago

I used to love it. I started in college, it wasn’t recreational very long before I started to notice the massive amounts of mind expanding thoughts and ideas flowing through me.

It became my teacher, my weekly inspiration. I kept it nicely spaced, never more than once a week.

My mind kept expanding and expanding until one day I began to experience things that I’ve never even heard of before. I could feel the vibrations of light, and turn them into sound. I could hear voices in my head clear as if someone next to me said them, they even had thoughts of their own. I started to panic and was literally convinced I was dying. I almost had my friends rush me to the hospital.

A couple months after that it was give or take with me, sometimes I’d be fine, other times I’d feel like something was immensely wrong and would panic, begging my friends to come on a walk with me. The hardest part was that I felt so alone, they couldn’t understand what was wrong with me. “Are we smoking the same shit???” was a common phrase.

Then every single time before I’d try it again I’d start feeling so deathly nervous, anxious, shaking… like someone was about to push me off a plane without a parachute.

The last time I smoked was about a year ago. That time it was as if a highly conscious entity grabbed my awareness and started blasting me with ideas, thoughts, and images on exactly how the world is closing in to the end of time, and how it was simply the reversal of the beginning. I saw pyramids all over Earth, understood how they were there in the beginning, and how now towards the end we’re only starting to understand them like those in the beginning did. A phrase that came through me so powerfully that it physically shot out my mouth to my friends…

“When the beginning meets the end, that’s waking up.”

This was all really awesome despite the come and go panic attacks… like over feeling my blood shoot back up my arm when I smacked my hand on the table.

I saw my thoughts instantly manifesting externally, the synchronicity was so powerful, it was a dream. I looked at my friends and knew they were just extensions of one consciousness, how we’re all just one consciousness. I felt myself lifting out of my body, felt the wall between this reality and whatever was “out there”. Knew that once I saw what was beyond I could never go back. My friends would be me, and vise versa, there’d be no I, or you, or family, or anything.

My ego cried so hard, I wasn’t ready. I wasn’t done living this beautiful story. Along with all it’s growing pains and drama.

I just wanted it to be over so bad. Eventually, it was.

I have my own theories about why weed does this to me, but I’d love to hear what you guys think, or if anyone has had anything similar happen… am I the only one who gets bent over by old mary jane? lol

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Elle (@elle92)2 years, 6 months ago ago

Goddamn dude, I am actually kind of jealous in some ways. Well, mostly the bit about the entity and pyraminds. I feel like all the other stuff has happened to me but to not as much of an extreme scale. I went through a similar phase but mine was more like, I just got incredibly incredibly lost in how beautiful everything was.

I had one night when I was high where I was at a concert, became entirely one with the crowd, understood complexities about music that I can’t even explain now, and then had a vision of being inside a spaceship which launched and then exploded in the atmosphere. I felt as though I was in the spaceship and died and it was the most incredible bliss imagineable. My ego died. It’s been hard building up this idea of who I am again after that, but I figure I have to if I am to enjoy life as much as possible, and bring along other people for the journey I’ve experienced.

I still smoke weed, not as much though. I use it to focus on the areas of my life where I could improve, so I can see them in a new light. I try to stay grounded, because if I begin to think about the universe and consciousness every time I’m high, it can either turn super good or just overload my brain.

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Max Moon (@maxmoon)2 years, 6 months ago ago

You are not the only one. Myself and a few of my friends have had issues with it in our youth. It’s probably life-stress induced. The most important thing in avoiding panic attacks is really easy. Just keep breathing! Breathe deep, full, hale and stress-free breaths. Life is a ride. I only smoke upper ganj now, and usually accompany it with futbol or a long run followed by a big meal. When the enemy is within, and you recognize this, you start to feel a deeper appreciation and love for those around you. Hope this helps.

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Anonymous (@)2 years, 6 months ago ago

Thats pretty intense dude! I too have changed my smoking habbits, I can not smoke randomly with strangers anymore. Though I smoke a lot by myself and go out in the world prepared with eye drops, people don’t even noticed anymore. When I get high with people who aren’t my good friends from back home I go into a mental storage area where I don’t fully feel like myself, I can read energy much better but for the worse. Oh Well It’s nothing serious to me!

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Bridget (@bird212)2 years, 6 months ago ago

@kirk i’m the same way. i like doing it with my friends or doing it and going about my daily activity but just toking a bowl with random people you don’t know or know how to make convo with when you’re high is like an energy drainer

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Joseph (@warriors41)2 years, 6 months ago ago

I have a feeling this is not an effect of Cannabis, but a part of your own self, that was just given a little bump by the cannabis. As you said you were not ready, but that’s okay.

The beginning and the end are a fractal. Like a pattern inside a pattern. They exist as one. The human and the plant are like this.

I think the message here involves, not outside experience, it involves age.

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Dom (@dominickjohn)2 years, 6 months ago ago

@Elle it’s so strange the levels of understandings you get while high that are damn near impossible to recreate after it’s done. It’s like you just remember the feeling and images. You’re right, I think part of my problem is that I never approached weed as a grounding experience, it was always geared towards this massive universe head-fuck. Once I realized thoughts created reality, and got panicked while high, it was as if I was holding a gun to my head. “Wow, this doesn’t feel right… I am I dying? oh no, even if I’m not I can make it happen by thinking that! OMfghaifh89h1

@Max Thanks, I’m definitely going to do that next time I’m having one; it’s true the enemy is within.

@Kirk Oh yeah, I used to smoke with strangers and would just hate the feeling of negative energy they’d often spit out. You get very vulnerable on weed

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Dom (@dominickjohn)2 years, 6 months ago ago

@Joseph I really agree. I think approaching it from the very start as a “mind-grow” really allowed my beliefs to create these powerful experiences. Like a catalyst for a placebo effect. It was so much like a fractal, what I saw. Can you elaborate on it involving age? I don’t think I’m understanding correctly

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Ellie (@tangledupinplaid21)2 years, 6 months ago ago

Yes, I definitely relate and that’s why I barely ever smoke anymore. It’s not worth the gamble of “will this be fun?” or “will I feel like I’m losing my fucking mind for the next hour or 2?” If I’ve had a beer or 2 I can usually remain calm after smoking a little bit. It’s a huge mystery as to what started this anxiety thing cause I used to enjoy smoking it for quite some time without any issue.

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ELI var namnet (@manimal)2 years, 6 months ago ago

I’ve heard many people say weed could make you schizophrenic, I’ve never believed it but this sounds like they could be right.

I can’t smoke it any more either, because it makes me feel bad, makes me tired, and fills my mind with bullshit. It’s like going back into the haze, clarity is lost. But I’ve realized that weed is really lame anyway, so it’s not like I’ve lost something I like.

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Dom (@dominickjohn)2 years, 6 months ago ago

@Ellie lol, 100% with you on that one.

@Manimal I could see something like schizophrenia happening, where you’re in more than one world… there’s too much chaos to bridge a relatable link to reality, so you just make two. Like everything, it’s definitely not something that should be abused.

I once asked Bashar (channelled entity) about weed a while ago, here’s a short clip of it in a trailer they had, it’s @3:19 in the vid. http://youtu.be/N9Bs6AdBhBQ?t=3m19s

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Joseph (@warriors41)2 years, 6 months ago ago

@Dom You said you were not ready. Would you consider your experience a positive experience? Or bad because now you can’t smoke any more? Perhaps not age in the way of years. More a self-age. I’ve had one chaotic experience in my life and I brought myself to comfort and I had limited fear. I’m comparing in my thoughts my experience to yours (and others).

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Dom (@dominickjohn)2 years, 6 months ago ago

@Joseph It was a positive experience because I know what was happening to me is where everyone is headed in my heart, that feeling of being one. But I think it more or less made me realize that life’s a trip, and there’s no reason to rush for this destination of oneness. I felt like I was speeding towards unity when I’d rather smell the roses and see the sights… fully appreciate the process of growth and not skip any steps. I feel like if I wanted insta-enlightenment I wouldn’t be here. Any good story would suck if you just flipped ahead 3 chapters randomly. I will admit I miss parts of not smoking, it gave me a sense of presence that I’m striving for still today… but, I suppose the crutches need to come off eventually.

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luigi (@luigiblue)2 years, 6 months ago ago

I used to smoke for 6 years straight, every single day, every hour of the day. joints were smoked but it was mostly bong hits as it was easier to smoke in my house.

It was fine at first but then it became too much. Took over my life. My speech for one was horrible and I couldn’t have a conversation with a girl without sounding like an idiot. I Also stopped taking care of myself, stopped working out, stopped eating healthy, stopped caring about getting things done. I’m an ambitious guy, I love being able to get out there and tackle things and this stopped the desire to. I lost control of my life and of my thoughts so by the end so I decided to quit cold turkey. I haven’t touched it in 4 and a half years and I don’t regret it.

Now I’m not saying weed is horrible, go ahead and do it but do it in moderation, weed is fine, as long as you control it.

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SpiralOut (@spiralout1)2 years, 6 months ago ago

@Dom, I started smoking weed in high school, at first it was an almost psychedelic effect. The first 25 times lets say, I almost have no recollection of what happened, I would just let myself go and act nuts, I’d find things to focus on and pretty soon that one focal point would become everything in existence. My friends would all act chill, I always would come to the conclusion that they were fighting the weed more then I was, as if the weed had more control on me. After about a year the weed started to give me the normal high effect. I was just a stoner now, but still I had it in my mind that I must be fighting the weed more, because it wasn’t getting me as high as it used to. So I’d smoke more and more weed, almost daily, to the point where sometimes I couldn’t tell if I was high or if I was sober. One particular year is just one fog. But I reached a point, where every time I smoked I had immense fear and anxiety. I had come to the conclusion that everything was black and white, love and pain, good and evil. And that the end would manifest itself as pure evil, thus every time I’d smoke I’d think anything and everything was the devil. Or just pure evil, but because I need to put an image to the thought, I imagined the devil. I connected both the universe and my single life together, so i’d say that when I die the universe would die, because my consciousness is the universe. I was convinced that I wouldn’t just disappear from the universe but the whole universe would disappear, because I was the universe. It fucked me up needless to say, I felt very alone, I felt the exact same emotions as you felt, everyone you know and everyone in the world is literally just you, so you are the only one. it’s a terrible feeling but the only thing that helped was quitting the pot.

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West (@west)2 years, 6 months ago ago

Quitting pot is my New Year’s resolution. I started smoking 2 years ago. At first is was just once a month when my friends would bring some to a party. It was cool, but I never really got into it. That was until the summer of ’09 when I went camping for a week and was high constantly for the entire trip. It really expanded my opinion of pot. Experiencing nature like that brought me to a euphoric place I had never been to before. I started buying my own and smoking it a few times a week. Every time I would get high I would zone out and listen to music. I’d lay out on my hammock if the weather was nice, or on my couch if it was rainy or cold. To me, those were the glory days of my marijuana experiences. I only smoked mid-grade weed and almost always my myself. I was able to get an incredible new perspective on my relationships with other people as well as my relationship with myself. I felt that every time I got high I was able to improve myself little by little.

The first time I tried upper grade marijuana was 6 months ago. At first it seemed incredible. I was getting high in a way I had never experienced before. Then I left for college and all the friends I made were pot heads. I thought that those were the people that would understand me and how I felt about expanding my mind with drugs. I guess I was wrong though because all the people were just in it to get fucked up. My first semester of college was spent smoking constantly. I started losing touch with my reasons why I loved smoking in the first place. I would get stoned every day and just veg out. The only times I was able to get those inspirational feelings I used to get was when I was in my room by myself with focused meditation. But even then, the thoughts that I got weren’t improving me, they were just… weird. I remember I spent two days convinced I was being filmed like in the movie The Truman Show. I thought people were conspiring to kill me sometimes. I sometimes felt like I was possessed by another being, and every time I closed my eyes, or put my head in my arms the darkness would take over my thoughts. I would stare at the sun trying to burn the darkness out with light.

I’ve never really been able to rationalize these experiences into words, and rereading what I just wrote takes me back to how bizarre those experiences were. I don’t really enjoy pot anymore. It became more of an escape from reality than anything else. It’s sad that I lost touch with those incredible experiences I used to have smoking mid-grade marijuana. I wish I could find some, but the only thing people sell now is the high end stuff. So I’m just quitting cold turkey. I’m only 3 weeks in though, so wish me luck.

@Dom
I can really understand the overwhelming thoughts that you were experiencing. I’m just curious though, what was your first time smoking like?

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West (@west)2 years, 6 months ago ago

Quitting pot is my New Year’s resolution. I started smoking 2 years ago. At first is was just once a month when my friends would bring some to a party. It was cool, but I never really got into it. That was until the summer of ’09 when I went camping for a week and was high constantly for the entire trip. It really expanded my opinion of pot. Experiencing nature like that brought me to a euphoric place I had never been to before. I started buying my own and smoking it a few times a week. Every time I would get high I would zone out and listen to music. I’d lay out on my hammock if the weather was nice, or on my couch if it was rainy or cold. To me, those were the glory days of my marijuana experiences. I only smoked mid-grade weed and almost always my myself. I was able to get an incredible new perspective on my relationships with other people as well as my relationship with myself. I felt that every time I got high I was able to improve myself little by little.

The first time I tried upper grade marijuana was 6 months ago. At first it seemed incredible. I was getting high in a way I had never experienced before. Then I left for college and all the friends I made were pot heads. I thought that those were the people that would understand me and how I felt about expanding my mind with drugs. I guess I was wrong though because all the people were just in it to get fucked up. My first semester of college was spent smoking constantly. I started losing touch with my reasons why I loved smoking in the first place. I would get stoned every day and just veg out. The only times I was able to get those inspirational feelings I used to get was when I was in my room by myself with focused meditation. But even then, the thoughts that I got weren’t improving me, they were just… weird. I remember I spent two days convinced I was being filmed like in the movie The Truman Show. I thought people were conspiring to kill me sometimes. I sometimes felt like I was possessed by another being, and every time I closed my eyes, or put my head in my arms the darkness would take over my thoughts. I would stare at the sun trying to burn the darkness out with light.

I’ve never really been able to rationalize these experiences into words, and rereading what I just wrote takes me back to how bizarre those experiences were. I don’t really enjoy pot anymore. It became more of an escape from reality than anything else. It’s sad that I lost touch with those incredible experiences I used to have smoking mid-grade marijuana. I wish I could find some, but the only thing people sell now is the high end stuff. So I’m just quitting cold turkey. I’m only 3 weeks in though, so wish me luck.

@Dom
I can really understand the overwhelming thoughts that you were experiencing. I’m just curious though, what was your first time smoking like?

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Dan (@danfontaine)2 years, 6 months ago ago

My first several times smoking weed were quite schizophrenic I’d say. Fingertips would feel rubbery and everything around me kind of had that same sensation to it. Hard to explain. Intensely introspective as well; eating away at myself via some sort of omniscient social perspective. I quite liked it actually. It’s like watching episodes of my life from the PoV of the other people in them. I learned things about myself that my emotions wouldn’t allow if I were sober. I still get them sometimes. But I’ve quit the plant for the same reasons SpiralOut was talking about.

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Dan (@danfontaine)2 years, 6 months ago ago

My first several times smoking weed were quite schizophrenic I’d say. Fingertips would feel rubbery and everything around me kind of had that same sensation to it. Hard to explain. Intensely introspective as well; eating away at myself via some sort of omniscient social perspective. I quite liked it actually. It’s like watching episodes of my life from the PoV of the other people in them. I learned things about myself that my emotions wouldn’t allow if I were sober. I still get them sometimes. But I’ve quit the plant for the same reasons SpiralOut was talking about.

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Fernando (@fpalazuelos1)2 years, 6 months ago ago

Its clear to me that the effect of cannabis is different between people. The first times I smoked I just laughed with my friends and didn’t get any crazy or mind-blowing ideas. But last year I studied in England for one year, and made a group of amazing friends from all around the world with whom I smoked occasionally. Weed started hitting me really hard. I would become a different person, and get this amazing ideas and insights. But this only happened to me. Its hard to explain, my friends did not understand why I would become so different when I smoked. I could barely talk but I would analyze everything and had amazing thoughts.

I felt kind of sad that no one else could understand or feel the way I did. But now I see there are many others like me, I dont know why it just hits us differently. Anyway what you have felt sounds amazing to me.

Marihuana is definitely good because of what it makes you think. Feeling in harmony with the world and others. But I believe this is as long as you control it. Now I smoke twice or 3 times a month so the effect never changes. But I have friends that smoke nearly everyday and I think its just boring that way. They become resistant to the effect or something.

As long as you can control it, its amazing. If it takes over you, its shit. that’s what I believe. Every excess is unhealthy isn’t it?

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Fernando (@fpalazuelos1)2 years, 6 months ago ago

Its clear to me that the effect of cannabis is different between people. The first times I smoked I just laughed with my friends and didn’t get any crazy or mind-blowing ideas. But last year I studied in England for one year, and made a group of amazing friends from all around the world with whom I smoked occasionally. Weed started hitting me really hard. I would become a different person, and get this amazing ideas and insights. But this only happened to me. Its hard to explain, my friends did not understand why I would become so different when I smoked. I could barely talk but I would analyze everything and had amazing thoughts.

I felt kind of sad that no one else could understand or feel the way I did. But now I see there are many others like me, I dont know why it just hits us differently. Anyway what you have felt sounds amazing to me.

Marihuana is definitely good because of what it makes you think. Feeling in harmony with the world and others. But I believe this is as long as you control it. Now I smoke twice or 3 times a month so the effect never changes. But I have friends that smoke nearly everyday and I think its just boring that way. They become resistant to the effect or something.

As long as you can control it, its amazing. If it takes over you, its shit. that’s what I believe. Every excess is unhealthy isn’t it?

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Fernando (@fpalazuelos1)2 years, 6 months ago ago

and of you haven’t read Carl Sagans views on marihuana as Mr. X. please do so… he would get incredibly amazing insights while high. :

-http://hermiene.net/essays-trans/mr_x.html

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Fernando (@fpalazuelos1)2 years, 6 months ago ago

and of you haven’t read Carl Sagans views on marihuana as Mr. X. please do so… he would get incredibly amazing insights while high. :

-http://hermiene.net/essays-trans/mr_x.html

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Ray Butler (@trek79)2 years, 6 months ago ago

If shit like that happens when you are stoned it means you do not need it, you are capable of seeing all you need to without it. I smoked for 10 years. But quit about 3 and a half years ago. I did smoke it once every few months but the gaps became larger. Last time I had a cone was about a month ago. I went to visit my best mate, he smokes like crazy. He asked if I want one, I thought about it and said yes. I told him it had been at least 6 months and as I went to grab the bong he said no.
He grabbed 2 bags, about a half oz in each and said swell. The first one was strong but smelt good, the second nearly knocked me out. He said he was smoking the 2nd and I was about to crunch it. So he gave me the lighter one and I was smashed off my tree. I was freaking out. That really turned me off, I don’t think I will do it any more.
But I do think pot is like MacDonalds, you have it every 6 months or so just to realize why you don’t like it.

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Ray Butler (@trek79)2 years, 6 months ago ago

If shit like that happens when you are stoned it means you do not need it, you are capable of seeing all you need to without it. I smoked for 10 years. But quit about 3 and a half years ago. I did smoke it once every few months but the gaps became larger. Last time I had a cone was about a month ago. I went to visit my best mate, he smokes like crazy. He asked if I want one, I thought about it and said yes. I told him it had been at least 6 months and as I went to grab the bong he said no.
He grabbed 2 bags, about a half oz in each and said swell. The first one was strong but smelt good, the second nearly knocked me out. He said he was smoking the 2nd and I was about to crunch it. So he gave me the lighter one and I was smashed off my tree. I was freaking out. That really turned me off, I don’t think I will do it any more.
But I do think pot is like MacDonalds, you have it every 6 months or so just to realize why you don’t like it.

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