Can we start a revolution?
@blankey, i’m sorry dude but that to me is some conspiracybullshit, you’re ruining the positive activating energy that was coming up in this thread
@heron, What was the conspiracy bullshit exactly? Of course the first paragraph may be theoretical, but we need to be aware. If anything, we just need to be careful and very strategic. The second paragraph is fact. And the last one I am almost positive.
@blankey, its not like that though. Its allabout empowering people to take resposibility for their decisions, by stressing education and peoples rights. I guess a few things can be regarded as conflicting with the system like tagging buildings, but we do not have to claim that it was our intent. Like selling bolws at the local gas station. Besides i see no harm in decorating a dying city with possitive messages. Its all about expressing the power that the people have like the picture posted on facebook by highexistence of the people standing on one end of the plank supporting the politcians that are hanging over the cliff directing us around. Its all about providing people with the opportunity and knowhow to take right action.
I actually find blankys’s statement to be true. We need to be very careful about the lines that we cross.
@blankey, the first en third paragraph I mean. We can never change the way the world works, because then we would need the whole world to start a fundalmental revolution and throw away with the government and political system we have now to start again “tabula rasa”. Herbert Marcuse has an really interesting philosophy about this, you should check that out.
@kkylekittell24, I was referring to the final stages of this ‘revolution’. At one point, once a majority of the people are ‘woken up’, we will need to do something, because they will still have control, unless of course we literally get everyone in the entire world to join hands and sing together.
Sorry if I am sounding rude or harsh or anything, or a ‘dream crusher’, but these things need to be said.
The banks only have the power we give them. We can create ways for people to organize and learn to spend money in a more productive manner. Sucking the money away from the curruption towards a better and more tangible way of living whatever that may be. Like stop spending money on tv or fastfood and towards buisnesses that provide healthy alternatives or positive music.
What are the final stages? I dont know and neither will anyone else, im just talking about providing awareness through different means. Causing movement, getting people to wake up to the opportunities they hold. Investing in our growth as people and not personal profits. Nobody gives a fuck right now. I know this because I didnt give a fuck, and I am surrounded by people who just want to continue living there sheepish lifestyle.
You tell me it’s the institution
No revolution is necessary. The Western democratic nations have the right pieces in place, we have already been promised so many rights and the right to vote to change things in the nation.
Big, positive action is needed before anyone who is not naturally inclined to will take any notice.
I have ideas that are, I think, realistic in the sense that they are really not impossible and I don’t see how they would collapse and turn into something bad (no-one ever does, though). It’s about using the technology we have today to make a reality what was promised by the idealistic early founders of democracy. It wasn’t possible back then which is why we are the way we are but it is SO possible today it is amazing!
If you’ll want a real revolution you have to think outside the box. I’m not really seeing that here, which is probably a good thing. I wouldn’t have any HEthens to talk to, if you all were in Gitmo. It is possible though but, as some of you are beginning to realise, it will not occur in the traditional manner.
well, we can at least create awareness in the traditional way! I don’t really know how to help in any other way. So if someone could please make a stencil and show us how to make one. That would be much appreciated.
Jordan’s recent 3 part article seems to have hit the nail on the head. I’ll just copy and paste what I said in the comment section to here.
For the people who won’t be in the beginning stages of this project, they should be out spreading the word of the corruption of the governments, the way money is produced (money=debt=slavery), and how we all need to wake up. This can be through stencil artwork/graffiti and/or simply talking to people in an elevator. We should find out what the best way to go about informing people in public would be. Some sort of way to spark up a conversation related to the topic that everyone can relate to and would make them want to learn more…
So, what do you think the first line should be when informing someone in person?
First line: Watup dawg!
and then give him a copy of Life in a day and the Documentary of the community. and ask him if he wants the bus fare to get there. “See you on the other side, ma man” =D
“Hey there buddy, do you know that we are fucked?” haha, im just kidding, but getting people to see outside of their box is extremely hard. So many things are flooding their heads constantly and no one has any time to think about what is going on around them. This may be condradictory to my last sentence but more then likely they already thought about it before and have labeled what your getting across as useless.
@vizznou, i like it man, but do you think people would really go home and watch that? Life in a day was extremely insightful, i loved it, but to the average person it would be a awaste of time or they might think your the same as any other person trying to spread a message. See, i already have a useless tag on that dude.
I have barely discovered HE and it is a very large insightful community that I am glad to be a part of.
“A revolution without guns?”
The problem is as most people that have access to HE already have living standards appropriate enough that a revolution seems unneccessary. I have really been into John Perkins and other anti-globalist periodicals lately, and I believe in helping these third world countries get out of debt and allow them to adequately develop. Several heads of state in the third world are already striving towards this course of action (Lula Da Silva, Chavez, Heads of state in Bolivia, Ecuador, Malaysia, etc.). The current situation Syria is another example of American propagandic endeavors, and is a much similar scenario as to what just happened in Libya with Qaddafi.:
@kkylekittell24, I hear ya. they will indeed think i am the same as any other person trying to spread a message. after all, this: http://www.highexistence.com/images/view/this-is-your-early-life-wake-up-call-thank-you-and-have-a-great-day-now/ is how we all like to think of ourselves as, non?
When i got to thinking about this, i realized that for this whole thing, that is – the world-changing plans that we’re talking about, and Jordan’s community idea – to be able to stand up on its own, we’ll need the support of the media. because the media is what controls people’s minds and shit’s ok if they say it is, and not okay if they say it isnt. getting such ideas across one individual at a time faces the exact problem that you mentioned. but if we get it across through a mass media, they’ll all be fine with it.
but of course, that’s not going to happen. because the ones who control what shit comes on the media dont want our shit to come on it. they dont want people living off the grid in communities, seeking a higher meaning to existence and questioning everything. after all, we are sheep, remember?
@vizznou, we are only if we allow ourselves to be. We can always lead by example. Put your hands up and i will put up mine.
Well I just saw this episode of Extra Creditz (http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/politics) and even if it has a focus on games, it explains alot of interesting ways to be heard. Maybe something like this can be a small step to a revolution.
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