Can we start a revolution?
Is there any way that we can bring light the injustices in our society and have them changed? Could we end proletarianism? Could we eradicate the system of perpetual debt? Could we force out the two party system? Could people be convinced that feeding the hungry is more important than wearing brand name clothes? That Mexicans are as important as Americans. That we should not be attacking people that sell drugs but instead attacking the system that makes people want to do drugs. That our neighbors aren’t dangerous, stupid, or malicious.
Could we spread pamphlets and posters that would grab peoples attention and help them to see that the way the world is going isn’t right? Would any of you be willing to help me?
I am not the best written individual I know, and I am limited by my proximity. But if we were to team up, and each use our skills and our locations to our advantages we could perhaps spread consciousness and start a revolution.
Please let me know if you have any ideas on how we could potentially get this ball rolling.
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If you’ll want a real revolution you have to think outside the box. I’m not really seeing that here, which is probably a good thing. I wouldn’t have any HEthens to talk to, if you all were in Gitmo. It is possible though but, as some of you are beginning to realise, it will not occur in the traditional manner.
Revolution is the epitome of HighExistence. It is rising above the norm, saying FUCK YOU to doubt and gunning for the ‘impossible’.
The internet has given us the power of spreading information fast and anonymously, the power to come together in a way never before possible. Plus have you guys not heard about Spain??? Or all of Europe protesting en masse?? This is being done elsewhere, and done well. Google ‘Spain protest revolution’ and then tell me this is unrealistic.
Laying our a specific agenda is definitely the place to start.
In terms of deciding on a specific issue, I think it’s important to pick something that does not have a lot of moral controversy. What I mean is that it should be something that *most* people would agree should change but dont do anything about it because they believe “thats the way it is”.
Great ideas have been posted. I’m a big supporter of getting rid of the two party system, as well as major education reform. Below are 2 talks that will get your “revolutionary” juices flowing :)
Changing the Education Paradigm
David Cameron: The next age of government (TED)
@bobbylloydxd, I am all for this! we need to actually have a “raise awareness” day! where everyone hands out pamplets and speaks to as many people as possible about what is going on. the world, as it stands, is sheer madness. However, I believ that people must learn on there own. The thing is, there are probably many people who are willing to change, willing to step up to the plate, and say the people that run our society are terrible, and we need the kind, loving caring, people to not be afraid and stand up fopr what they believe in. together, we can create peace <3
@april…i agree with you :D
@jordan…to me your website is the revolution in progress :D (plus you stated you wanted to add a video and a group chat very good ideas)
@geoff…i agree; it has to be done without anger…otherwise you have a bloody war on your hands :D (tinychat…could be your media outlet…and i believe jordan is planning to put a video chat thing here which would be a great media outlet…there is also a thing called live streaming and global one tv)
this is why to me…a revolution has to be an inner revolution…an outer revolution leads to war…inner revolution leads to peace one individual at a time :D
war has never worked…it is all about power…greed …destruction…i am not a fan of this…people are what is important not flags, religion, or money…when people change of their own free will you can have a great movement ahead of you :D
you do not need a government or anybody telling you what is right…if; one changes from the inside one discovers his/her own inner peace and becomes this light for all to see :D
I think revolution is fundamentally wrong for backers of free thinking as it suggest imposing one’s belief on others (thus going against the nature of free thought and choice).
Like I said, the option needs to be available but not enforced, material to inspire thinking needs to be available, but nothing that accentuates the blame of any one party. Sufficient availability and media attention would lead to a nation of free thinkers, and the eventually a government party could theoretically arise through that.
i like the money bill idea. also, i’m always tempted to write witty-cynical remarcs on big ads posters. i truly hate ads, they make me puke inside and i want to invade their manipulative messages and wake up the people who look at them. it’s like iconoclasm for ads, capitaliconoclasm if you will.
in general, the path is pretty clear to me: get rid of advertisement, TV, most movies, most magazines, most newspapers, junk food. get rid of political parties, or for starters get rid of party financing possibilities and party advertisement, especially during election time, and make the US an at least 5-party system. simply randomly assign congress members to one of five groups and call them parties 1 through 5. replace party ads by fixed-length, text-only propositions of laws and regulations delivered to your house/laptop only once per election. change the voting schemes. change the way we live in isolated cells of atomic families. change the way we school, we commute, we use energy. cap maximum earnings at, say 80k a year. fix a true minimum wage. heal the wound of the heart. give us strength to not carry our skills and determination into niche opposition groups where they help a little and life feels cozy, but where we withdraw our potential from the true political arena. buy fair, buy organic, if you can. ditch meat. make public transportation free (as in beer). reclaim the key positions in government, industry and regulating boards. when pema chodron (thanks martijn) says to go to the places that scare you — nothing scares me more than working at saic, rand, or blackwater… set politicians’ salaries to minimum wage or something. make them completely transparent in terms of money. if i were a politician, i’d donate all my belongings and walk from house to house at night and ring folks up to see if i can get a bed and meal at their home. if not, i’m doing something wrong… stop environmental pollution. let the silent valuable people have a voice and dont lend a voice to alienation, greed, and delusion. put an end to loneliness: loneliness in retirement, in singleness, in marriage, in society. give us the feeling that we will still be loved when we show ourselves the way we truly are (but don’t even know for ourselves because we’re too scared of shame and exclusion to even look inside who we truly are). put an end to the concept of nationality, territorial citizenship, and nation states. recycle, buy used, and buy what’s beneficial. speak the truth, and be a light upon your surrounding fellow humans. shine a light on this poor confused world. get rid of compound interest. make any form of interest usury a despicable crime again. most importantly, change the way we let ourselves be governed. and do it gently like aikido, but with unfailing determination. abruptly-rapturing revolutions tend to get messy. go steady, but with the unfailing determination of an arrow. be bold, be gentle, go to the places that scare you. and be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle. amen.
@hulklol, the point that we have to make people realize that we need a change, would be the essence of the stencils, stickers, QR codes and flyers. We would make people think about their lives, realize we need a change and by putting a website on the flyers or in the stencil we could lead people to a little website. This website would be a portal (as @kkylekittell24, said) where we learn people about our current global situation and direct them to many new philosophies, ideas, concepts while emphasizing individuality and openmindedness
Bobby thank you for starting this discussion! I recently have been thinking along the same lines… Here’s an idea that came to me: The “WAKE UP” Campaign.
Phase I- We would start with the underground art thing similar to Jordan’s suggestion. I was thinking about creating a WAKE UP stencil and spray painting it every possible place that I could. I got discouraged with the thought of how I could only physically reach a limited amount of places with the message. Putting the stencil online for HEthens to print out is such a good idea!! This is something that we could get started immediately. If everyone participated in it, the words WAKE UP would be EVERYWHERE and people will start wondering why… it could even become a mysterious “topic of interest” in mainstream media, which would spread the message even further.
Phase II- We create a website… wakeup.com. The details of the site would have to be worked out, but it would clue people in on waking up to a higher frequency of living. It would also start out as somewhat mysterious and anonymous… in order to provoke a high level of interest in all kinds of people. It would gradually reveal what we are trying to accomplish. I have some cool ideas for it that i cant fully explain here. We would create another stencil in the same style as the first, but it would say http://www.wakeup.com. This one would be spray painted all over the place as well. This would provoke people to seek answers to the mysterious phrase “wake up” that they have been seeing everywhere and they would go to the site. And the site would gradually ease them into answers.
Phase III- The site allows us to find a group of people who understand what we’re trying to do on the site. We organize something. And we do it. (I’m thinking more along the lines of non-violent unity revolution, as opposed to the more traditional, violent ideas of revolution)
This conversation and these ideas are VERY exciting. Any one else think this is as doable as I do? Other ideas for a strong catch phrase? Other ideas in general? I’m bouncing off the walls with positive energy right now ;)
EDIT: woops didn’t mean for the website to be a hyperlink. but it links to godaddy.com… looks like that domain might be available? :)
at least thats how I see it! I honestly don’t think that crying blindly “Revolution!” is going to get anyone anything other than an adrenaline rush, some followers who think revolutions are cool, and maybe a black eye…
but realistically change CAN happen, you just have to go about it strategically. Its going to need impeccable management and people who genuinely care about working towards making the world a better place. Even revolutions, don’t happen overnight.
The website will have all of the downloadable pamphlets, fliers, stencils, etc. Plus blog articles, anonymous comments and relevant new stories about the government. The graffiti should have the URL right under it. The site will legitimize the defacing of public property (which I don’t see as being a bad thing considering the intent behind it).
HEthens, if you have any ideas for URL’s, plug them into your browser and hope for a DNS error. Anything else means that they’re taken. Also keep in mind there are many other domain extensions besides .com — .org | .us | .me, etc.
The best one I’ve come up with so far is WakeUpU.sa (.sa is ironically the extension for saudi arabia, but you can use any international extension). It’s not perfect so I’m eager to hear what you come up with.
This thread is great, but getting too long, anyone think of a better way to summarize the pints here and make it more user friendly so taht we cal all actually do something rather than talking about it?
(Meant in a friendly way)
well, we can at least create awareness in the traditional way! I don’t really know how to help in any other way. So if someone could please make a stencil and show us how to make one. That would be much appreciated.
I know I can’t speak on Jordans behalf, but I believe by “political revolution” he was referencing realistic changes in the government/politics (which he gave examples of) and not overthrowing the government through anarchy/money as you suggested
My Friend and me came up with an idea, if we write Wake Up on every dollar bill we ever get
the money will eventually get circulated and people will find it wonder what it is, hopefully if theres a website we can create for them to see, and allow the word to be spread
@heron, I only just read the wake up idea now, and thought it was pretty exciting. There would be a sizeable start up cost however. But there are ways to get money, like a good campaign on kickstarter for instance.
I am aware however that this is similar to the High Intelligence Office project that received funding on kickstarter. So perhaps it is time for something more. I wish I knew what that was.