Censoring the internet?

3 years, 5 months ago

http://www.tumblr.com/protect-the-net
I came across this today anybody else hear anything about this?

November 16, 2011 at 6:39 pm

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Profile photo of ELI var namnet ELI var namnet (@manimal) 3 years, 5 months ago ago

Censoring the net doesn’t work. There are always ways to get around it, especially in such technologically advanced countries, where there are so many computer-savy people.

The governments aren’t very smart at all and their internet tools aren’t very safe. Like the wikileaks stuff, all the hackers did was hijack a tor-node. That’s really easy. The governments don’t know this kind of shit very well, and there are many random people who do know it very well.

Besides, it’s just the internet.

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Profile photo of Ka Ka (@kaciula) 3 years, 5 months ago ago

Censoring the net does work. Of course there are ways to get around it but only for people who know stuff. The average person doesn’t even know that he/she is censored. Blacklisting domain names is serious shit. You’ll have to go with a static IP or if it’s dynamic, do more complicated stuff. And already 99% of the people don’t bother.

So, yeah, protect the Internet. It’s spreading knowledge every second.

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Profile photo of EEL EEL (@mindlessfreak30) 3 years, 5 months ago ago
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Profile photo of  Anonymous (@) 3 years, 5 months ago ago

fml, I had such high hopes for the internet

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Profile photo of luigi luigi (@luigiblue) 3 years, 5 months ago ago

It’s the end of the world as we know it ;)

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Profile photo of ELI var namnet ELI var namnet (@manimal) 3 years, 5 months ago ago

They’re bringing about their own doom. Finally. That’s the best part about manipulation, that whatever you strive for will eventually lead to the demise of it. Deception is self-destruction, and they even know it but they don’t care. This type of people always end up causing their own death.

People will not accept this. I know it. This is war.

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Profile photo of Ray Butler Ray Butler M (@trek79) 3 years, 5 months ago ago

Yeah, because sites like this (namely me) are bagging the shit out of Rupert Murdoch, multi-national corporate take overs and calling the republicans on the political agenda of fear campaigns in the media, of course they want to censor us:)

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Profile photo of ELI var namnet ELI var namnet (@manimal) 3 years, 5 months ago ago

@Ray The republicans, you say? The democrats are doing it just as much. And most political parties in other countries as well.

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Profile photo of Ray Butler Ray Butler M (@trek79) 3 years, 5 months ago ago

I don’t know, the Republicans benefit more when the nation is in fear because scared people are more likely to vote Republican. This is simply because of examples like the 2 Bush presidents and Nixon, they were hard as nuclear nails, but Obama, Clinton and other Democrats are more lovers than fighters.

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Profile photo of ELI var namnet ELI var namnet (@manimal) 3 years, 5 months ago ago

@Ray Errr… there was war during Clinton’s time, and there is war now under Obama.

And people wouldn’t vote for either party if they didn’t vote out of fear.

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Profile photo of Ray Butler Ray Butler M (@trek79) 3 years, 5 months ago ago

There’s pretty much always a war going on. After 9/11 Bush was re-elected because they knew a democrat wasn’t bad ass enough to take down Bin Laden, Americans were shit scared of an at large Bin Laden. The Republicans knew they were scared and knew they would most likely vote for the Republicans as long as Bin Laden was still out there.
Then, against their plans, Obama was elected and in no time Bin Laden was dead. Americans are no longer afraid. The Republicans let the fear grow, Democrats shut the fear down.
Americans are not afraid of wars, haven’t you noticed? I don’t know why you use the wars in the Clinton and Obama terms as evidence of fear.

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Profile photo of ELI var namnet ELI var namnet (@manimal) 3 years, 5 months ago ago

@Ray That wasn’t against the plan, it was according to the plan.

I just pointed the wars out because you said Nixon and the Bushes (rad band name?) were hardasses and Clinton and Obama being loving, caring people. It isn’t true.

Also, war IS fear.

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Profile photo of Ray Butler Ray Butler M (@trek79) 3 years, 5 months ago ago

Ok, I will agree that the Democrats also use fear, but it is a different fear to what the Republicans use. eg: Back in 2006 the Democrats spear headed a climate change fear campaign. This was seeking to get action on the issue. Now, climate change is a valid threat, something we should fear, but few people do fear it.
If we take action on climate change it is the 1% who will feel it the most because the 1% actually owns all the industries that are not only causing climate change but fucking the planet in general. So who has most to gain from stopping action on climate change? The 1%.
Who do the 1% control? (other than the other 99%) Rupert Murdoch (actually he is one of the 1%) and over 70% of the world media, and the Republicans. Do you see a pattern yet?
What don’t they control? The internet, on-line media (though I’m sure they control a significant chunk of that also) and web-sites like this where crazy people like me come out with all kinds of conspiracy theories that even if not correct, at least make people think about what is really going on.
There is your “Censoring the internet?” in a nut shell.

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Profile photo of Flynnstone Flynnstone (@flynnstone) 3 years, 5 months ago ago

@Ray speaking as an american who has paid attention to the past three election cycles (I was a bit young for Clinton), I think that we were just as scared about the economic recession on the tail end of W.’s second term as we were about war when any of the recent Republicans were elected. People were scared they were going to lose their homes, jobs, etc. and Obama, as a non-incumbent and a Democrat, offered them an alternative. Now, with the 2012 election coming up, many aren’t satisfied with Obama and are less likely to vote for him now, hence the Tea Party Movement, which can claim legitimacy because many of the same problems from 2008, while better, are not entirely fixed (as if they expect a recession to be cured overnight) and offer a radical alternative to the Democratic platform.
There is a lot more than just foreign policy that goes into an election result, and while war does tend to come with a Republican president, that is certianly not always the case. In fact, foreign policy is largely ignored by most candidates except for maybe a couple questions during the debates.

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Profile photo of ELI var namnet ELI var namnet (@manimal) 3 years, 5 months ago ago

@Ray You’ve got it all wrong. This 1% isn’t affiliated with the republicans, they own both the republicans and the democrats. They’re no different, just different names for the same shit. And the climate change stuff is another one of their distraction maneuvers.

When you state believe things like the ones you stated above, you’re basically letting them sway you just the way they planned.

Anyway, this stuff is way off topic. If there is more to discuss on our little side-subject let’s discuss it over pm.

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Profile photo of Ka Ka (@kaciula) 3 years, 5 months ago ago

@Amarelias, Install Adblock Plus extension/add-on in your favorite browser and your ads will suddenly disappear ;) Whenever I am at someone else’s computer, I can’t believe how that person can surf the net with all the ads screaming at him. However, the video ads still persist. There needs to be a solution for this also.

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Profile photo of ELI var namnet ELI var namnet (@manimal) 3 years, 5 months ago ago

@Ka Adblock is a necessity for any internet user. I haven’t seen an ad in many years, and I can’t believe people put up with that shit.

Video adds can be dealt with the same way. There’s an addon for adblock that does this, and there are many different flashblock extensions.

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Profile photo of Ray Butler Ray Butler M (@trek79) 3 years, 5 months ago ago

Well, I agree with you Caitlan, that the situation of the world and it’s politics can not be summed up in a couple of paragraphs as I did, there is much more to it, many more factors that I have omited.
Manimal, you are right as I have suspected that both sides of government are under the thumb. It is just a given that any President, Democratic or Republican, are heavily influenced by the 1%, I just think there is a slight difference between the absolute control they have over the Republicans and the almost absolute control they have over the Democrats. Democrats have been known to defy the plan.
Regardless of all this crap, I do not believe in the occupy movement and I will tell you why. Sure I hate the 1% but they can wipe out half the worlds population in a temper tantrum and be better off for it. I think if we poke the bear with a stick it will wake and bite us in the ass.
I am talking about world war 3, or rather a global civil war and the victor is already decided, it’s just a matter of how many lambs go to the slaughter and the history will be written sympathetically toward the 1%, and even the term 1% will be forgotten.
I understand how much enlightenment you have, Manimal, and it is something I envy in you but anything short of divine intervention, alien interference or (as you have mentioned Manimal) global consciousness and complete oneness with the self and universe (and all 3 are possible) we are up shit creek.

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