Challenge: Doctrine of Discipline – A Pact with the Higher Self
You may or may not agree with the following beliefs but this is a challenge for those that see a similar “higher self.” After careful deliberation today, and a very sudden and violent epiphany, I have created these creeds and will be doing my best in upholding them from this day forward. I realized that my suffering is a direct result of the decisions I have made and the manner in which I have been acting. We build the suffering around ourselves. I’m infuriated and ashamed of some of my past behavior: life is too short for games, I am combating my demons now. If you wish to do the same, please do and let me know if your habits and life improves.
I. “I will not wait too long to act. Indecisiveness kills a man and closes doors. What you don’t go after doesn’t belong in your life.”
II. “I will not regret. Regret serves no purpose, the past is written in stone. Focus on the present where redemption is still possible.”
III. “I will not doubt myself. Do not look into the future, do what must be done now as perfectly as possible. Tackle the future as it becomes the present.
IV. “I will not fear. There is nothing to fear when one truly understands what it means to die. Dead men have nothing to fear.”
V. “I will not lust. The greatest form of weakness is to be at the whim of your body. Practice self discipline. Misguided energy fuels the depravity in the world.”
VI. “I will not overindulge. In excess we destroy ourselves. Things lose meaning when we receive too much of it. Practice moderation.”
VII. “I will not be untrue to myself. The judgments of others are destructive to the self when you allow them to influence you. Be yourself always.”
VIII. “I will not be violent. Anger is natural, but violence is unnecessary. Grasp the hot coal until you can no longer hold it, but never throw it.”
IX. “I will not be blind. ‘Justice delayed is justice denied’ -William Gladstone. ‘Every man is guilty of all the good he did not do’ -Voltaire.”
X. “I will not be overly proud. Pride is honorable, but in excess we become consumed by arrogance and vanity. Be humble and practice humility.”
*These are very specific because they are personal. We all experience different problems and need different ways and methods for amending them. This is a strict doctrine for me, but if you wish to participate you may tailor it to any level that you wish. I feel that no one should be told how to live their lives, so if you do not believe in these creeds, do not uphold them.*
I think what you’re referring to is, just living. :)
Although it could agree with your rules, I think the rules a pretty silly and limit one’s freedom.
If you truly believe in: “I feel that no one should be told how to live their lives”, then I think with these rules you don’t follow your own words. Because you’re telling yourself how to live your life.
I think if you set rules, you will suffer on the moments you catch yourself not living by your own rules.
@egarim, I think what you’re doing is awesome, personally. While many people on this forum may refer to life as “just living out what you feel”, and there is nothing wrong with that, I think there is much to be gained by denying and disciplining the self.
The self cannot be tamed, if that’s what you think.
@egarim, ”IV. “I will not fear. There is nothing to fear when one truly understands what it means to die. Dead men have nothing to fear.””
I’d be curious to know what your violent epiphany was concerning this point :D. Not looking to attack your point of view, I just like hearing people talk about this stuff because it’s fascinating.
You’re right man, they are very limiting… thing is I’m still working off the excess energy from a very recent and profound epiphany haha. So I’m like really motivated and angry at myself so these rules are made intentionally limiting to keep me from regressing to my old habits. Trust me, though, I’ve come a long way but there are still a few things that I continue to do wrong.
You make a wonderful point about not following my own rules because I said that “no one should be told how to live”… you are right and that is the ironic and contradictory thing about these rules. It’s a contradiction that I am strong enough to overlook. I know it may not make sense, but understand that I do appreciate a free and unrestrained life… but my unrestrained thinking is hurting who I could be. So the gift and curse I have given myself are these rules: they are going to limit me until they become habit and I will be free again.
Thanks man, I appreciate your feedback:)
Thank you, and I wish you luck in your own pursuits!
Of course! Except that it isn’t any one thing. I will admit that the origin of my violent epiphany is mostly lost… I just have all the excess energy and motivation from it.
However, I will try my best to explain:
Just like that, I gave up everything that was destroying me: excess (not that I really indulge… I really don’t it’s just on the list of things I need to stay away from), overthinking/indecision, anger/inability to forgive, lust/motivated by hormones, being too apprehensive, etc.
I’ve always known these things, it’s just that I finally found myself again. We don’t have to have enemies… to have an enemy is a mutual thing, if I choose to forgive and be a friend, I can have no enemies. This logic can be applied to all things: everything in my life can be redeemed… no need to think that it’s too late. So long as I’m not six feet in the ground, there is still a chance.
Thanks man for your insightful question.
@egarim, but the question still remains; what does it mean, for yourself, to truly understand what it means to die? Is it nothing? Are you gone forever? Reincarnation? Just curious :)
Haha oh now I understand! No, my epiphany on death has little to do with what happens after. That is the whole point of it. People don’t realize that death itself is quite simple… what happens after is another story. I personally could care less if nothing happens or if the adventure continues, I’d prefer the adventure of an afterlife or reincarnation… but these things don’t even come into play when we finally understand the meaning of death.
Think about your problems. However little or soulcrushing (death of a loved one, losing an opportunity, etc). Then truly think about what it means to die… to be laying down, completely unable to change anything or do anything about it… nothing trumps death. We all die, we try too hard to avoid it, we try too hard to justify not doing what needs to be done… we die, we lose everything. There is nothing too insignificant to do or say, nothing too impossible to attempt. No one important enough to judge or stop you, nothing good enough to leave you satisfied.
There are things that run deeper than death: injustice, unrighteousness, a wasted existence. When I understood what it meant to die… there was nothing left to fear.
@egarim, Thanks for the answer :)
Enjoy the feeling of you epiphany and don’t feel bad if it subsides, it’s fine :)
I appreciate your thoughts, they put me to think about MY life aswell and how I also have and had) rules.
Thanks for You :)
You’re welcome my good man:)
I completely understand. You are the embodiment of a free mind and spirit… the world definitely needs more people like you. It is true: there is nothing that we are “supposed to do”, there are no expectations that we do not place on ourselves to begin with. Society is too swamped with habits and routine… we should just accept and be ourselves and stop trying to keep up with a status quo or build up our reputation.
The counter argument, of course, is that there are some people that are unhappy with who they currently are (not outgoing enough, not strong enough, not brave enough). If these people were to just look in the mirror and accept themselves, I am sure they would be greatly happy. But I also think that deep down they would regret never having found out what they could have been.
Sometimes we need to deny ourselves to find out who we are. If all the obese people just accepted loving overeating… then forever they remain obese. Being supermodel thin isn’t the solution either, but there are inherently self-destructive things that exist within each of us that we should not merely accept.
Thank you for your thoughts, have a great day man:)
These people are unhappy because they can’t accept themselves and that if you Truly and Wholly accept yourself from that Point on, they Wouldn’t Regret anything anymore.
Don’t deny yourself, there is no who, there is no true personality, personality is rigid. Water has no personality, it just is. There are no solutions, because to start with, there are no problems. I think being ‘super skinny’ or ‘super fat’ Comes from not accepting the self.
Thank you for your thoughts, have a great day man:)
(hahaha that’s a good feeling to have)
I am fan of Osho’s philosophy and work, he really is a brilliant man. His methods for meditation are very powerful as well. I feel that your sense of freedom is very similar to his but as for myself I cannot say the same. I respect the man for his wisdom and knowledge: I try to learn and take away whatever I can from his teachings, but I remain steadfast in my own beliefs.
It is true: self-acceptance is a beautiful thing. But still, the counter-point is that some people are born a certain way and deep down inside they know they are something different. It is true that some are aiming to live up to the expectations of others… but there are those that know deep down that they were meant to be something greater than themselves. When I deny myself, I am not denying my true self: I am denying my human weaknesses… if I accepted those weaknesses I would be too concerned with primal desires (sex, food, drugs, sleep, power). I deny them to find myself.
As always, I appreciate your thoughts!
I understand that you think he is preaching, I think he really is without goal and that he just speaks freely, whatever he wants.Although his intention is to wake up people, so maybe he has a goal (lets not complicate this). He speaks the Truth to me, it can be a lie for someone else. but I take his teachings in my heart and experience the benefits.
You point of view is different on things in this matter. When I accept everything about the situation I am in, Constantly, I choose the path with least Resistance. The path of least Resistance resembles what some call the Flow (it is also what I call the flow). I see Opportunities everywhere, I don’t see things that annoy me, I see the difference between my view on things and someone else’s view on things. If the difference in itself becomes clear, I can Accept and move on. Every day is an Adventure if you accept the way things are.
Of course, it is my truth.
Thank you for your thoughts as well, they bring me closer to myself.
@egarim, this list will probably do more harm then good. Frusteration will come from this self limiting dogma. Trying to deny a natural part of the self is to deny the self altogether. In order to detach yourself fully you need to first fully engulf yourself in these regular life experiences. Only when you fully engage can you disengage. This paradox points to the infinite experience that is, this of which our brains cannot conceive. Just my opinion though, whatever works for you! Cheers! :)
I think you are misunderstanding what I mean by denial.
Regardless, thank you for your thoughts, as always
Haha, whether this doctrine does more harm or good is solely dependent on the one following it. The doctrine itself is lifeless and has no power over you: you get out what you put in. To become frustrated and suffer from upholding these rules is your own doing and no one else’s.
Thanks for your thoughts man!
@egarim, Very true! Cheers!
Then enlighten me
@egarim, WOW! Thank you for sharing.
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