@splashartist, But get your passion in a degree! It’s a liberal arts degree, you can throw together any medley of classes and string them together into a degree.
What is your plan A, anyways?
@xyver, I will after if it comes to it! Plan A is to push my music to the next level in some form of profession and to keep on investing until im financially free. Maybe write some books on self growth, teach meditation or something along those lines, there’s so much I’m passionate about that could come to be something life is truly exciting that way. Making wages at a job is my plan b. i want to represent the idea that you can achieve your dreams and change your mind.
As someone who spent three and a half years out of college before going back, I have to say I am happy I got a college education. After working in factories, restaurants, shops, as a maid and gardener, etc, etc, I was happy to be studying. Some stuff I learned was mindless pap but I learned a lot of very interesting things and was encouraged to speak my mind. I did feel, however, that graduate school was a waste of time. Ihated it and hated my major. Part of it was my fault, but grad school really focuses on such a narrow vision, there is no room for thinking (or in my case wasn’t).
|~ Lady M ~
@kankles, I absolutely agree with your opinion. Although I am studying psychology (totally different path than yours, which is -art) gaining experience is the same principle.
And that experience is just priceless if you ask me.
College can be good and with point, if you are going for your dream, and that is just a shortcut.
|~ Lady M ~
@yoinkie, ” Amen ” to all your words ! ;-D We have the very same type of mind flow.
I have loved my Master’s course, but I didn’t enjoy my undergrad, probably because I didn’t pick the right course for my undergrad.
Nevertheless, I’ve had invaluable learning experiences in college, that really have opened my mind and expanded my knowledge base… HOWEVER, it seems that a college education doesn’t have the same value as it once did. Every Tom, Dick and Harry can get a Masters now, and STILL find it hard to get a job. All this, while paying through the nose (I’m in Sydney, and my cumulative higher education has cost me upwards of $40,000).
College needs to be inexpensive, and more competitive, I think, or it loses value. This loss of value is why I can understand people now saying that a college education is overrated in terms of opportunities for employment.
“If you think education is expensive, then try ignorance.”
I am currently a senior in high school. Ill be graduating the following spring. Im not sure if i Will be Enrolling on a college or a niversity directly after graduating, or if i will take a gap year to study italian, travel, do community service and explore my options. I believe we humans are, by nature, life-long learners. By being in a liberal arts high school, i was able to learn that human talent cant and shouldnt be measured by a single conception of abilities.
I dont think every high school graduate should immediatly enroll in a university or college.
Many of the ideas expressed in this post come from my admiration to Sir Ken Robinson. :)
@kankles Thanks so much for this refreshing post! I thought I might be the only one that shared this point of view… I’m a sophomore as well and have found that my time in college has profoundly changed the character that I am. It’s an awesome time of exploration, with (if you’re at the right college) a community of thousands of other curious individuals to indulge with you. Yes, a lot of the time you learn useless information in lecture but the learning that you do through your peers is truly profound. Wouldn’t trade it for the world!
@splashartist I mean, to each his own, so it’s totally your decision to whatever the hell you want, but I feel like you might want to go into it with a different attitude. Granted you say it’s your plan B, you should milk everything you can out of the experience. A lot of people don’t get a free college education and would love to have a chance at a higher education.
@infidel I understand totally what you mean by the fact that it seems like anyone can attain a college education at this point and end up with the same degree as you but with much less effort and money. BUT, it would be unfair and technically impossible to create a way that selects those “qualified” for college because everyone is so different in terms of how they learn and how they communicate their knowledge (i.e I know kids that are borderline genius but can’t ace a test for the life of them)
@sonrieprimero that’s an odd connection but I’ll take it haha
@kankles, Well the college I go to consists of stress filled weeks and “let’s get drunk” weekends. They feed us terrible food. We pay a lot of money for this education that I can get for free online Also, if I really want a job (actually just a higher chance at finding a job) I need to attend Graduate school, meaning, I will take out some student loans, meaing I will be in debt. Also, I may not even find a job! Depending on of course what I go into. But right now, it is leaning towards Sociology. And if I have learned anything from that course, it is that we need change, drastic change from each individual and thus the system itself. I am not going to be changing anything if I and everyone else continues along the path of the debt filled college experience of wasting away your days getting drunk, studying some things that do not interest you from time to time, and eating terrible food for your health.
That’s my spiel.
@kankles, That’s why I am milking it. I ended up finding a few courses I enjoy to take as well which is nice. And sure, I may sound negative when I speak of school. There’s positives about it though as well which I know I will enjoy like the social atmosphere.
@kankles The fact that Adderall has become such a necessary drug for many students in college is one reason why I feel college has fallen down the wrong path. It’s a bunch of busy work, and classes that students don’t find interesting, and therefore turn to adderall. Instead of trying to cram hundreds of different classes down our throats I believe that colleges should allow students to be able to immerse themselves deeply into their true interests, and bountiful knowledge will follow. College has become a business, so it has been sold as ‘necessary’ for every high school grad. No offense to communications majors, but I roomed with two of them at a respected school, and that major is a joke. It is definitely, not necessary to take 4 years of college for, unless for maybe the top top students, but still I don’t know. There are many majors that fall into this category in my opinion.
All that being sad, I do have to agree with you that it is possible for students to gain a lot from college, but the system has a large room for improvement.
|General Tits Von Chodehoffen
Obviously the education system has it’s pros and cons, but saying you can get the exact same education without going to college is ridiculous. And having a diploma is pretty sweet when it comes to getting jobs.
I’d like to address the “when will I ever use this in life” crowd. You are missing the point. Unless you have a job that requires that you use calculus, you probably won’t need it, but that’s not why you are taught it. You are taught math because it creates neural networks that help you with higher order thinking. In other words, you are taught it because it is good for you. Now, I don’t know the benefit of classes where all you do is regurgitate memorized facts, but classes that require that you think and do problem solving are essential and good.
College isn’t necessary to get A job, but it certainly is necessary to get CERTAIN jobs, such as engineering, math, science, or software. Also, I wouldn’t be able to have been able to join the kickass research groups I’m in if I didn’t go to college. :)
@kankles, College can be both good and bad things. If you are interested in academia and gaining knowledge, then it is a very good thing. But too many people go to college, because they believe they have to or that they are a better person for having a college education. I know so many people who hate their courses, and essentially learn nothing, they just take notes they’re not, nor have any interest in understanding. They are just going to memorize them and repeat them in their exams.
I’ve been self-directing my learning for a couple years now, and along with a strong focus on photography/videography, I’ve kept up with other subjects to stay well-rounded. But this blog post my have some insight on the whole college education thing. He wrote “College Without High School” and “Better than College: How to Build a Successful Life Without a Four-Year Degree”. Super practical ideas, easy to start working on.
These are excerpts from his book.
College was the greatest experience iv ever been through. Character building experiences around every corner and you really decide who your going to become. I graduated from Shippensburg U ( go red raiders) as a biologist. Going into school i had no direction at all. Now i love bio, the understanding and study of life is great IMO. Now i just need to find a job which is going to be tough but i only graduated 3 weeks ago. In time it will come.
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