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| Sasho Stoyanov
@mANIMAl, I envy your discipline. And at the same time I intuitively refuse it.
I can be stupid and disciplined and obey, but on the other hand, I choose to be the only thing I can be – me.
When you get the message – make fun of it. No message should be taken seriously. Nothing is unpredictable. Hang up the phone ? What are you going to do after you hang up the phone ? Hang up some phones again ? Get the fuck outta here. Improvise.
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“When you get the message, hang up the phone.” – Alan Watts
True enough, but I can’t help but think that what Watts’ was trying to convey with that statement was in a different context.
I went through a phase where I thought I had it all figured out. I understood the message. Time to hang up? Thankfully I realized that the message kept changing every time I listened to it. The surer I am about something the more I doubt its validity. The message changes with context.
To me a medium such as HE is not a finite resource. It is an ever changing context. To think that you can reach the zenith of what HE offers tells me that you have formed the belief that you got the message.
“I don’t have all that much interest in sharing my perceptions”
Sounds like you don’t want your perceptions/belief to be challenged, and it sounds like you have already decided your path. ‘Phase 2 complete, progressing to phase 3’. This kind of linear thinking suggests to me that, if there is a phase 2, you are in its early stages which are characterized by illusions of clarity.
I apologize for coming off a bit the antagonist, but my intent is purely in the interest of sharing my perceptions. That’s what people do here.
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Phones were not invented a long time ago. :) What I am trying to say is this -
You’re human. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6YkEUPKEX4
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@Dick It was in a different context, but it’s the exact same principle. No matter if it’s a drug or a belief or another person, they’re all just temporary, and I think they have a purpose that is for you to “get to the next level.”
I’m not saying you should think you have it all figured out. (remember this thread? http://www.highexistence.com/discussions/topic/what-you-really-know/) That’s not what I mean when I say “getting the message.”
I don’t think that the issue was that Kirk didn’t want his perceptions and beliefs to be challenged, but simply that he was here to learn from others rather than help others. Some want to learn, others want to help, others want both. People are different, and different people come here for different reasons.
However, discussing with Kirk is kind of pointless since he’s deactivated his account. Not trying to come across as an antagonist, just my two cents.
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@Manimal-Just read it. I remember that I started reading it but got distracted. Most of my post wasn’t directed at you, but at the man who has, apparently, left the room.
Philosophically, I have difficultly seperating the desire to learn from the desire to help. Self help in the context of nearly 7 billion people on the planet seems quite pointless.
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