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| Iris
I think everyone can agree with me that the past makes us to what we are today.
in the process of growing up we learn and experience things that form us.
all our feelings and emotions wrap themselves up the things we do.
everyone always gets in a situation witch they don’t like or bad stuff happen to them. this leaves a psychical scar.
some people have very deep scars or more little scars. a few who cannot cope with them usuelly kill themselves or get deeply depressed.
i cannot take away your past but i can help you coping with it.( i love helping)
offcourse you now wonder how the hell im going to do that.
im going to teach you how to think positive
teach you to listen to yourself/ understanding yourself
learn you to life in the here and now
and help you cope with the past
also i want to make you understand your own emotions, intuition and thoughts.
im not here to change you, im here to help you
im not smart and im not perfect. i dont have the perfect life ( no one does) but i AM coping with everything.
remember dont be afraid to make mistakes, we’re all humans after all.
so anyone having a hard time with their past? dont be afraid to let others help you 
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| Alex
Everything you ever perceive with your eyes is always the past. There is always a lag from how light travels to reach your retina. The only thing you can denote is that the present is the only ‘real’ quality about existence. It’s your stepping stone. So step.
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| Iris
in order to be in the here and now you need to let go of the past witch is a very hard one for allot of people.
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| Alex
Especially since you look it in the face every second. That’s why dreams are awesome, why deja vu is so attractive. We all want to transcend at least time, and some space. We want more. We must be more, right?
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| Iris
we must nothing. we do what feels best most of the time.
even if we don’t look at our intuition all the time doesn’t mean its not working :)
the human mind is so wide going and can move mountains. but you have to see that first to believe it.
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| Alex
No, all senses are an illusion. It’s much more than that my friend. Intuition is strong, and beneficial, we should never abandon it for rationality’s sake, but to ever think our skills could explain something greater than us is bizarre. We simply cannot do it, because we are first part of this universe, and 2nd much smaller and more insignificant than the universe as a whole. (Not so say we aren’t pretty fucking special)
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| Iris
so everything you can’t explain is false then? we are indeed very special so why not think the unthinkable?
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| Ray Butler
It is true for a lot of people that their past makes them who they are. It was true with me but I did not like the person my past made me so I changed and made myself who I want to be. So it is like a default but I truly believe you can decide what, or who, you want to be and not allow external or historical factors influence that decision.
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| Alex
You wouldn’t know what you wanted to be if it wasn’t for the past’s influence.
@Iris, not everything you can’t explain is false, but everything you don’t fully believe is false. You can tell yourself the sun won’t come up tomorrow but you know deep down that it will, and you believe it. Changing belief to your core is a difficult task, but not an impossible one.
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| Ray Butler
Your probably right Alex, that everything we want and every decision we make may be sourced and developed from past experiences, but why does it? Would we even be capable of making a decision if not for past experiences?
For example; If a person has amnesia, can they make a purely rational or logical decision or do the need to rely, at least partially, on informed and acquired knowledge? Is our very ability to think logically or rationally an acquired trait from experience?
This discussion has the danger of becoming another metaphysical discussion on consciousness and the self.
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| Renee
I would gladly see any discussion turn that way..hehe I love it .
I agree with Alex, everything you don’t fully believe is false. What you truly believe is truly true, and you will see, hear, FEEL, and live it. And yes Isis, the human mind sure could move mountains. You’re both saying pretty much the same thing, I’m not too sure of where the divide in your conversation is coming from.
Isis, thanks for this post. After months deep into this metaphysical stuff, working on my ego, meditation, staying present, thinking positive–I’ve realized that I still have so much anger. I’ve always been well aware of my anger, it can flip on SO suddenly, and though it doesn’t directly feel like it’s coming from my past, I know it must be. (I’m not thinking of my past when I get angry, but after I’m over whatever pissed me off I can never understand why I got so angry in the first place). A lot of the shit I went through (similar to the shit many of us have gone through) had never been truly resolved. Through I do not have anything in my life that should be causing me anger, I still feel so much of it, too often.
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| Rajiv Nelvoy
Ok. I feel dumb not entirely understanding the conversation between Iris and Alex. Maybe its because its late here and I am delirious but I am curious to know anyway.
@Alex- So do you mean that one can change their belief that the sun won’t rise the next day?
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| Alex
I believe we are capable of that yes. My belief though is that we share consciousness to an extent. Some things may not be directly in your individual control. If one person believed to the core that the sun will not rise tomorrow, then that is influence, but it wouldn’t be as strong as if say 1,000 people fully believed that the sun won’t rise. The more people that believe in something, the more ‘real’ that becomes.
I imagine it’s not an easy task though, to believe the sun won’t rise tomorrow. Everything you have ever learned or experienced will go against the grain on that one. Like I said you can tell yourself the sun won’t rise, but either subconsciousnessly or in the back of your head you still believe it will rise. I still think we are capable though.
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| Alex
I want to merge this thread with my Precognition thread. It’s easy to grasp the idea that the past helps create the future. But what about future influence? There is strong evidence to suggest (at least at the quantum level) that the future effects the past, as much as the past effects the future.
It’s just weird to realize, and know to the core that the present is the only ‘real’ time, but you can’t ever pin down the present to a specific moment. You can do this with past and future. Everything I look at is a reflection of the past, and I am constantly on a trip into the future. The past changes the future, and the future changes the past, and we are just left with the present time.
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| Iris
I agree, The past changes the future, and the future changes the past.
sometimes we do or say things that we already been through in the past. not only will we then learn to do differently (or the same) we are also consciously think about it, questioning yourself if there is maybe a different way, a better way do do this or that.(coping with that moment and perhaps changing it)
by that we see that happenings from the past don’t always have to occur in the present/future as long as we consciously cope with it. and by that it gets a little bit easier understanding happenings from the past. off course there are things that we don’t go through a second time again, (thank all the gods) so how to cope with that?
I think forgiving yourself and others is a start. trying to forget is not a option. trust me I tried it but things unfinished always come back on your plate.
you can try meditating on your past. most of the times you remember only the bad things and they make you feel bad thinking about them so why not get rid of them? how?
when your happy you smile when your really sad you cry. when you think happy you smile…you guess it when you think sad thoughts you can get really sad. positive thinking helps allot with this. I recommend meditation this way: think about your past and the things you wish you didn’t remember or want to get rid of and i mean get really conscious on those things. they are there because you never gave them a place of peace in your brain system so visualize this big book or closet with all the things you been through. go see whats in them. see all the happy moments and things that made you to who you are today and see that even the past happenings has to do with that. so why not place your past in the book/closet of ‘what i am today’ visualize writing it don’t in that book or open a door in that closet and but your memories there with all the others. know you cant always change things not now not in the past or in the future unless you really try. cope with it :)
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