creating an alter ego
after watching the fight club and batman begins (2005) movie , me and my friends had a hot discussion about creating the alter ego. why does one has to create an alter ego(completely different personality)? is it the desperate crave for their desire or some other things? how does they create an alter ego ? it might be a silly question, i would really appreciate if some one could give some answers based on human psychology
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Alter – to make different in some particular, as size, style, course, or the like; modify
Ego- the part of the psychic apparatus that experiences and reacts to the outside world and thus mediates between the primitive drives of the id and the demands of the social and physical environment.
Alter ego = To modify your primitive drives in the demands of a new world. =)
As far as I have learned, alter egos tend to originate out of trauma. Things happen to you that are so violent/scary/horrible that “you” as you know yourself literally “hides” in your own head, & someone else takes over bc the situation is too painful to bear.
My brother’s ex-wife was raped by her father repeatedly as a child & she had a bunch of them…well split personalities anyways. @Alexa–she used to keep a journal too… my brother said he looked at it once and all the handwriting in it was different. Freaked the shit out of him.
I think alter egos are a (cool/interesting/even intelligent) way to separate the many different facets to one’s personality. So you take traits that are compatible with each other and you get one person from it, and you take traits that seem opposite to that and create the alter ego.. make sense?
Wow this is actually really scary! I was thinking about making an alter ego also but this has made me realize that I don’t want one!!! Gosh, I hope your brother is doing better now Alexa.
I think that people are a lot more complex than we give them credit for. When we read about book characters they are always “smart” or “loud” or “funny.” The same goes for TV shows. People are usually introverted or extroverted and nothing in between. Most people think that they are a lot more emotionally complex than others and that their personality traits clash with each other. But we still think it is the norm to know who you are right off the bat and have a set combination of traits. I felt like this for a very long portion of my life, being loud around some people and quiet around others, serious but carefree, and funny but also reserved. I think that alter-egos are created to account for all of this confusion.
When I was little a little kid and always got made fun of, I pretended that I was actually this really famous, undercover sorceress type of thing haha. But it was still ME. Just that no one else knew who I was and if they did, they’d be sorry. I don’t know if this classifies as an alter-ego. I hope not because they kind of freak me out now!
I don’t think we need to create alter egos, just learn to be comfortable with the evolututional process that we all should be going through with our personalities as a life long process.
Most of us here seem to have gone through some kind of early abuse or trauma we needed to or still need to work through but we aren’t going to fix anything by hiding behind a facade.
Most of my life I was shy, insecure, scared of the world, and abused substances because of these feeling. Someone who knew me well then would say I was a totally different person. I didn’t create this new person or alter ego, I changed who I was at the core for the better. Mainly as Julian says, I learned to step out of my comfort zone.
woah i was just thinking about this the other day! i’ve never seen fightclub though (however a friend of mine so kindly ruined the twist for me), but i was thinking about how cool it would be to create this crazy confident wild child of an alter ego, and use her to do things i’ve always wanted to do but been to wimpy and socially whipped to do. But then it started to make me feel a little sad that i can’t just be ME and do all these things, why should i have to create an alter ego?? i started getting scared that it could get out of control and i would start to depend on it to do everything. But essentially it is still you doing these things right? it’s just the alter ego seems to give you some sense of anonymity, like you can just explain to people (not that i ever would cos it’d make you sound crazy and somewhat desperate i think) “oh sorry that wasn’t me, that was my alter ego”, a seperation from the consequences of your actions?
I dunno. it’s still a really fun idea. I’m just wondering why it’s needed, why can’t we just remain ourselves and do these things.
I think alter Ego’s help, they are always a down side to everything but there is also positive things. Just creating one for fun though wouldn’t give the same effect as if it was created for you.
Mine was created when I was 6, it started out as a imaginary friend but as the troubles in my life became worse I somehow became her, She is the absolute opposite of me, she partys, drinks a lot, drugs, she’s lesbian, reckless, self-centered and more of the punk rock looks, and I am a ballet dancer and more the book geek that would rather stay home because I don’t know what I would do at party’s where I obviously don’t fit in. She has gotten me into a lot of trouble but I have always explain away myself saying it was PMS or mood swings.(she is though not controllable)
So it depends on the reason why you need an Alter Ego, if it get’s your confidence up the that’s great, if you need it to escape the reality then that’s a savior but it is all different depending on the individual. And as for creating an Alter Ego, well let’s just say you put everything your not, together and the see what happens?. Just be careful, it can get very deep and you won’t be able to get rid of it like me, I got depended on my Alter Ego and now she kind of Dominates my life, The brain is very complex and fragile so we should think before we do.
“I dunno. it’s still a really fun idea. I’m just wondering why it’s needed, why can’t we just remain ourselves and do these things.”
Everybody has their own vices/fears. It isn’t needed, but our minds are ever so complex…some may argue that it is easier than another method of overcoming the fear itself. (The fear an alter ego may help one overcome). Recently I have begun to believe, in terms of my mind, that what goes in is what comes out.
So say you put in a strong desire to overcome social anxiety by creating an abstract form of yourself by the name say “Lupe”…or any name over the years you have come to wish was your own, or that you believe would belong to a person braver than yourself. This alter ego becomes “Lupe” for example, then you attribute Lupe with all the courage you can muster, along with whatever suitable personality traits you desire Lupe to have….then you begin acting out..all the thing YOU by your real name have been scared to do…as Lupe. This is how I describe/annotate an alter ego….
A friend of mine has 8 different personalities – a case of split personalities obviously, but she has learned to live with them (her husband too). She keeps this secret at her office and in daily life and she functions well in society. Only in private she lets them come out one by one, at different times and on different days. They are male as well as female, have different ages (between 3 and 19 – she is 40 now) and different characteristics. Some of them are rather aggressive and violent even, others are creative and funny.
Better keep yourself together instead of fooling around with alter egos. Much less trouble if you are in one piece mentally.
Better learn to step out of your comfort zone and try new things than to split yourself up.
Wow Alexa, That is very odd. I’ve heard of similar alter-ego stories but nothing as intense as you described.
@Julian, have you seen the TV show, “United States of Tara’ It is about a woman who suffers from this and has a handful of personalities that come out at certain times.
I think that alter egos are already present within us but may go against the image that we’ve created for ourselves. Usually alternate egos are socially deviant, so I think that calling it by another name makes it feel safer and deflects personal responsibility although people are more multi-faceted than some people would like to think themselves to be.
When I entered this topic I was even considering creating an alter ego for myself, but after reading some of the comments I concluded that it’s best to face your own fears than to imagine they don’t exist.
@alexa your story opens up many questions regarding the power of our thoughts and maybe even the paranormal or spiritual.