Crystal adults

3 years, 3 months ago

Do crystal adults have the same psychic abilities as crystal children? Like telepathy and telekinesis, or are those only the base attributes to grow into a crystal adult with separate abilities or purpose? I know that it means we’ll have a deeper conscious understanding, I’m just curious as to exactly what everyone else thinks will stand as defining of the new age of humans, whether that means we’ll all be superhuman or Christlike or both. I’ll be a 19 year old indigo shortly and am just curious as to what my (possible) future might hold after the coming shift :B

08.18.2011 at 7:38 am

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Profile photo of Martin Walsh Martin Walsh (@kakistos) 3 years, 3 months ago ago

i’m pretty sure it doesn’t matter where you go to post stupid ideas. there will always be someone around to tell you its a stupid idea. in cliques and groups that would be defying the status quo, if this place has one benefit its that i’ve never (and noone else should either) felt bad for calling someone a dick for talking shit.

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Profile photo of PDC PDC (@chemicalspike) 3 years, 3 months ago ago

As a site I love that it is open minded and I really try to reign in my cynicism and natural skepticism, the site does need at times I feel an extra injection of critical thinking but I really must give out a heart felt plea not to devolve into the negativity we experienced recently with that series of god awful debates centered around one poster.

At some point we just have to lay out our ideas and step back and allow that from my perspective “some people will believe in a load of nonsense” and from their perspective “their goes another close minded cynical bastard”

:D Please folks try and keep it light hearted and not be too confrontational, I’ll try and take a pinch of my own advice while I’m at it.

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Profile photo of Alex Alex (@hollowinfinity) 3 years, 3 months ago ago

If mathematics is your belief, then you should know that mathematics state that there will always be truths that are not provable. You see, mathematics to me is probably close to how you feel about it, and do you see how differently we interpret its implications? That right there is what is amazing about humans. Same information, different outcomes. Some things are just true, and we will never be able to prove them. We can try, but we’ll hit a dead end. Makes for great conversation though.
Also, if math can explain all things, then what does that actually say about everything? I guess that would mean things are the way they are because it is the only logical outcome. That can take an infinite amount of shapes and ideas. Could mean telepathy is possible, could mean a god might exist, could mean that we are actually what the inside of nothingness looks like, etc. etc. etc. Math does not tell us why things are that way, math lets us see a reality way before we actually observe and understand it. Math is like an artist with that sense, much like musicians are with sounds, etc. Math says a lot for me personally, and to me, it limits our ability to learn everything, while at the same time giving me a comfort to explore logic, and thus the ability to form my own opinion, and thus the drive to learn, and thus ambition to live.

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Profile photo of Chris Chris (@comicsanmc) 3 years, 3 months ago ago

I disagree. I believe math can explain everything down to whether you choose pudding or jello. Could we compute the mathmatical equations completely in our lifetime? Probably not. Could they be? Definately.

[img]http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/purity.png[/img]

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Profile photo of Chris Chris (@comicsanmc) 3 years, 3 months ago ago

I disagree. I believe math can explain everything down to whether you choose pudding or jello. Could we compute the mathmatical equations completely in our lifetime? Probably not. Could they be? Definately.

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/purity.png

Math has helped us realize that there ARE universal constants. From that we can extrapolate that all things interact with these universal constants.

You should really take a look at this article on cracked. Its a more comedic example but true none the less.

http://www.cracked.com/article_19360_7-questions-you-didnt-know-could-be-answered-with-math.html

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Profile photo of Brandon Brandon (@snuffalufagus) 3 years, 3 months ago ago

Honestly you guys I can see how people like chris and manimal disbelieve in the indigo children, the only reason I do is because I am one myself. And the experiences I’ve had over my life tell me that it is true. I do however agree with most of the other opinions you both have stated. Most people do believe in things wayy to blindly. and Scientology is deffinetly nonsense. haha =D

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Profile photo of PDC PDC (@chemicalspike) 3 years, 3 months ago ago

But anything special, extraordinary, crazy there is always someone claiming that they have personally experienced it including Zombies, ghosts, scientology and Mormons.

The same applies to indigo children. Someone has something special reproduce it in front of a skeptic society in labratory conditions and I’ll believe.

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Profile photo of Bryan Hellard Bryan Hellard (@xyver) 3 years, 3 months ago ago

Screw laboratory conditions. If someone can show me a special “talent” at a time and place of my choosing, that’s convincing enough for me.

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Profile photo of PDC PDC (@chemicalspike) 3 years, 3 months ago ago

Funny I’ve never personally met nor have anyone I’ve ever met who can actually display this. In all my travels (extensive) I’ve never met anyone who could personally show me.

Odd that isn’t it. Strange, everyone who can do this can never actually meet me.

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Profile photo of Jeff Jeff (@pairodime) 3 years, 3 months ago ago

If you’re talking about psychic abilities you won’t find them in indigo children, supposedly psychic children being born in Asia are the ‘crystal’ children, and indigos must make the transformation in their lifetime

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Profile photo of Alex Alex (@hollowinfinity) 3 years, 3 months ago ago

@ Chris.
That is all that I need to present: “Gödel proved that there are ALWAYS more things that are true than you can prove. Any system of logic or numbers that mathematicians ever came up with will always rest on at least a few unprovable assumptions”

http://www.cosmicfingerprints.com/incompleteness/

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I don’t really believe in psychics or anything, but I believe a consciousness shift, or something of the sort to be possible. If psychics existed I could almost see how, taking in views from the holographic theory of the universe.

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Profile photo of Alex Alex (@hollowinfinity) 3 years, 3 months ago ago

Also, off topic again..Math is awesome, but at the same time can you really explain why math breaks down at 0?

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Profile photo of Joel Joel (@mstrjay) 3 years, 3 months ago ago

Chris, you should really check out Godel. He mathematically proves what Alex said: There are truths that are unknowable (within every system).

Alex, how exactly does it breakdown at 0?

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Profile photo of Johannes Davidsson Johannes Davidsson (@daokedao) 3 years, 3 months ago ago

ermm….. humbug. Nonsense.

Prove it and I’ll believe it.

My theory is that when the magnetic field shifts. What we now see as yellow will turn red and vice versa.

***** (insert random nonsense theory)

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Profile photo of Matt P Matt P (@mkp843) 3 years, 3 months ago ago

@Alex, God!!!!! mwhahahahaha…. It’s the only irrational number.. and is a representation of the creator.. all the other ones just do as they are told.. zero does what it wants.. lol, that was just off the top, so if you wanna blast me, don’t, we can talk about it

It breaks down cause you get infinity all of a sudden when you apply it…

Edit** can’t talk about it, inappropriate for thread =P

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Profile photo of Johannes Davidsson Johannes Davidsson (@daokedao) 3 years, 3 months ago ago

Infinity and nothing are just opposites. nothing strange about that from my pov. The only strange thing is that we can experience the nothing. but it exists in math.

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Profile photo of Matt P Matt P (@mkp843) 3 years, 3 months ago ago

yes and can apply as nothing.. forgot that, what would I do without you!? lol.. good talks btw.. peace (4:49 am)

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Profile photo of Alex Alex (@hollowinfinity) 3 years, 3 months ago ago

Infinity and nothing are actually a lot closer than you’d think. Infinity is a strange thing too. 0 is a number, but its also a concept. Infinity is a concept, but can also be a number. Math breaks down at 0, because you can literally obtain any number you please with just 0. 0/0 is an undefined equation because any number will suffice. Trust me. Going from 0 to 1 gives you infinity. We just are too confident about what we think nothing and something actually is.

I’m gunna have to make a math theory thread. xD

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Profile photo of Michael Michael (@michaelb089) 3 years, 3 months ago ago

This thread saddens me…instead of discussing what the OP wanted to it turned into a debate that was based in much ignorance. If you do not remotely know what the OP was talking about then why make a post discrediting it. That is the problem with society as a whole. Society hears an idea and instead of saying “whats that, because I have no idea?” they say “oh that must be that “insert random completely unrelated stupid shit here” stuff we should redicule this person.” I just wish people would at least learn about what they are putting down before throwing it into some lump group of crazy shit like Scientology.

Anyway what the OP was talking about can be learned about here:http://www.highexistence.com/your-crash-course-on-spirit-science/
In a recent blog post.

For those like Chris if you view those videos with an open mind you might see that even mathematics has a role to play.

Once again, I’m sad this post didn’t go in a more positive direction, because the original posed question is interesting to me. If a polar shift does happen and if it causes us to transcend a higher level of consciousness (btw those two ifs are important they let me talk about it without saying it is true or false) will the changes that this shift is supposed to represent effect those born before it in a similar way than those born after it.

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Profile photo of Alex Alex (@hollowinfinity) 3 years, 3 months ago ago

@Michael. I’ve wondered that same question. Maybe its a pointless question, because If we were to transcend consciousness, then we would obviously have to throw out our traditional ways of thinking too. It’d kind of suck if only everyone after the shift was at a higher consciousness, but still awesome at the same time.

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Profile photo of Ellie Ellie (@tangledupinplaid21) 3 years, 3 months ago ago

I agree Michael. If someone claims to be an “indigo child” or whatever and can’t present evidence, I certainly won’t believe them until they can, but as far as I could tell most people on this thread weren’t doing that so why are they worthy of snide negative remarks? When it comes to speculating and asking “IF(you’re right about the “if”s being important) this, then what?”, how can you ridicule? If you don’t see a point in discussing things that cannot necessarily be proven, I don’t know why you’d even comment unless you just feel like trying to make someone feel stupid.

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Profile photo of Alex Alex (@hollowinfinity) 3 years, 3 months ago ago

Part of the reason why I feel psychic abilities haven’t been proven in lab, is because the power of belief snuffs it out. If a man were by himself, miles away from people, and he truly, truly believed he could levitate, then maybe he can. But if he’s in a lab, sure he believes it, but i’m pretty sure the 10 people around him don’t believe in him. The power of belief is a tricky thing. I personally believe belief is what presents us with reality. Our thoughts actually manifest matter in a way I guess.

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Profile photo of Ellie Ellie (@tangledupinplaid21) 3 years, 3 months ago ago

I agree with you Alex, up to a certain point. Attitudes definitely manifest results but if I were to walk up to the edge of a building and believe I could fly off of it (even with no skeptics watching me), I don’t believe this would increase my chances of not being splattered on the pavement. When it comes to things like musical or artistic ability I can personally attest to attitudes being the key factor in how well you can do.. but skill also matters. For example someone who cannot necessarily draw well, but believes they can, will do better than someone who also possesses limited talent and believes they suck. Attitude and belief in ability also definitely affect personal relations, because we can feel the way people think about themselves and respond in kind. I actually read a study yesterday on a psych website that proves how you perceive someone directly affects how they act.
I consider myself an open minded skeptic. Is levitation or mind reading possible? Maybe. I wouldn’t be surprised to find out it was, but to believe it off the bat without seeing proof would be as nonsensical as believing a man rushing into my lobby at work and claiming he just got attacked by a dragon. It is possible to be open minded to a fault… This is why religion is so damn pervasive.

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Profile photo of Ellie Ellie (@tangledupinplaid21) 3 years, 3 months ago ago

I have a long day of work ahead of me so thanks for the video :) You pretty much stated exactly what I believe. There are infinite possibilities and I like to think about them. This website brings an interesting mix of skeptics and mystics together, and there are no wrong answers until someone’s being a douche unnecessarily.

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Profile photo of Alex Alex (@hollowinfinity) 3 years, 3 months ago ago

@ Ellie, well yeah probably not, but you can’t tell me you don’t have many preset notions about what flying is, and the possibility of it. Even if we currently believe in something, our subconscious plays a big (if not bigger) role. I think there are limits to this though, like you were saying, however I feel like the limits are ones we impose on ourselves. I’m sure if every single person on the earth believes we could fly, then maybe we could..who knows because everyone will probably never all think the same thing. :)

@ Alexa. I’ve watched this a few times before. :) We are very unaware of our surroundings. I mean we know a lot, but a lot of what we know is assumptions, and just a general idea. For example, aren’t refrigerator magnets supposed to be impossible based on the way we look at science? If light slows when it goes through glass, what speeds it back up after it passes? That is also supposed to be impossible. I’m off topic a bit, but our universe does contain at least what seems to be impossibilities.

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