Difficulties Of The Mind

2 years, 6 months ago

I’ve always wanted to lucid dream, ever since I first found out about it a couple of years ago. I hadn’t actually made the effort until about six months ago. I formed habits; asking myself during waking hours if I was dreaming, checking my surroundings, writing down my dreams, but to no avail. I have had two very short, very unproductive lucid dreams within the last six months. I’m curious — is there something I’m doing wrong? Or not doing? Should I continue on patiently (urgh) until I finally get it right? What are your lucid dreaming experiences?

August 26, 2012 at 12:55 pm

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Profile photo of zowie zowie (@zowie) 2 years, 6 months ago ago


Profile photo of mint mint (@mint) 2 years, 6 months ago ago

Is there a specific type of meditation for this? I’m struggling too :(

Profile photo of Christian Christian (@christian92) 2 years, 6 months ago ago

@mercurial, Can you elaborate on that please? I also read that mass meditation can lower crime rates, but didn’t find any good sources. Google just gave me some “hints” or but no real data.

Profile photo of Troy Troy (@illusionist) 2 years, 6 months ago ago

@Mercurial, Not elaborate but show us the proof please (Sources)

Profile photo of ELI var namnet ELI var namnet (@manimal) 2 years, 6 months ago ago

RAISE YOUR AWARENESS. That’s where like 80% of the results come from.

How to do it:

1. Meditate. None of that weird advanced stuff, just simple focus breathing meditation.

2. Question. While meditating helps improve all aspects of your mind, it’s a slow steady flow, evenly distributed on your whole mind. For fast progress, you need practices that focus making larger chunks of progress in a more narrow area of your mind.
That’s where questioning comes into play gotta cut some of those ties to your “subjective reality”
Throughout the day, frequently remind yourself that “none of this means anything,” “I do not know what this is,” “none of this is real,” and so on. Basically it’s detaching from your projections, and thus becoming more alert and aware.
It also liberates your mind.

3. Assert. I assume you’ve heard of positive affirmations, if not I’ll explain what it is. Basically, it’s a message that you repeat until it becomes deep set in your mind, consciously altering your mindset.
Take out your pen and paper, make a list of affirmations handling the goal at hand. In this case, lucid dreaming. So, you should write things like “I am a lucid dreamer,” “I sleep consciously,” “I always dream vividly when I sleep,” “I can shape and mould my dreams as I please” and anything you want to form this mindset from. Thereby getting into the mindset of a lucid dreamer, which makes it much easier to lucid dream.
Read through the whole list a couple of times before going to bed, and a few times after getting out of bed, do this daily. Soon you will notice the results.

4. Be aware of falling asleep. Instead of thinking a bunch of stuff before going to sleep, just meditate. Focus on your breathing, count down from 1000, or use a “drone thought” (think a one-syllable sound and repeat it continuously in your head until your mind is flushed, then you automatically fall asleep consciously.)

I always lucid dream. I am aware of falling asleep, I can literally feel the melatonin gradually increasing in my body, my brain slowing down with every wave, I can see as the images start to appear before my mind’s eye.
Sleep really is not an on-off switch, it’s a smooth transition.

I do all my visualization in dreams, and I most of my thinking in dreams, as well as just consciously observe as my brain digests, assimilates and organizes what I’ve learned during my wake. That really makes it easy to filter out the bullshit, and see how things get stored in your mind, and so on. Very revealing about how the mind works.
As for the visualization and thinking part, one of the main benefits of this is the time lag, time moves very slowly when you’re asleep, you can do so much more.
I’m sure you’ve noticed this effect at least once, you know like when you nod off and dream for “at least half an hour” and when you wake up you realize it’s only been like 20 seconds or something.

It’s because your “waking mind” shuts down, freeing up a lot of processing power. Just like your computer performs better and faster when you terminate processes that are not needed at the time. The brain really is like a super-computer, actually it’s the other way around, computers are designed after the blueprints of the mind.

Lucid dreaming is such a great technique. Using it to just play around is such a waste, mental masturbation. Using it as a tool is a way to quick enlightenment, vast power, and full control of the self. The latter being of the utmost essence to every aspect of life and the world.


Profile photo of Ben Ben (@cognizantelephant) 2 years, 6 months ago ago

And how does an out of body experience happen?

Profile photo of ELI var namnet ELI var namnet (@manimal) 2 years, 6 months ago ago


“Central eye” vision/projection. It’s some kind of dissociative/hallucinating mental state. I have no idea about the details really.
I’m not that experienced with this stuff, haven’t done it all too many times, although I have some continual central eye vision.

Profile photo of Murph94 Murph94 (@murph94) 2 years, 6 months ago ago

@manimal, Haha awesome, I was literally just about to make a thread to see if anyone used lucid dreams for visualization. I’m working on lucid dreaming now. I’ve gotten to the point where I can induce really vivid dreams but they seem to fade away as I become conscious of them.

I’m surprised that more people don’t recognize their amazing potential.

Profile photo of ELI var namnet ELI var namnet (@manimal) 2 years, 6 months ago ago

@murph94, Yeah it’s great for visualizing. First of all you’re already in vivid vision mode, you’re also in a “slower time” mode where you can get more done, and last but not least you get all the benefits of visualization without having to spend any of your waking time on it.

I don’t visualize or meditate as much as I used to, but I’m getting much more of their benefits, and a big part of that is due to conscious sleeping.

Getting into lucid dreaming can be very tricky, for me it very rarely worked when I tried, I guess I was doing it wrong, but as I became more aware and mentally aligned it kind of just happened on its own as a result. First it was just more vivid, more first-person, then I gradually gained control.

Lucid dreaming is amazing stuff.

Profile photo of Carl Carl (@birdofprey) 2 years, 6 months ago ago

@mercurial, I’ve seen and thought about that clip a lot over the last few months. And I basically just cannot seem to understand how the experiment, and the questions that follow aren’t so well known throughout the world? Why aren’t kids in school being showed how to question life like this, and then we’ll see how the world “could be saved”! There is so much potential there to learn about things which we previously wouldn’t have thought to question.

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