Description of DMT (Dimethyltryptamine) to a non-user.
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One of a kind experience, for sure. I am leaving May 31th and this is my last week in my current apartment, so I would say as soon as possible. Lets PM?
The machine seems very interesting! I just do not know if I am handy enough to make it.
@Filip, Bring some when you come to visit ;)!
Ayahuasca is a lot different from what I can gather from your description. Much less intense, more personal, easier to interpret, much longer etc.
About the DMT documentary, just read the book (I have it if you want to borrow it). It is much better.
@snaysler, you took 25-inbome and didn’t have any hallucinatory impairments? Were you aware the amount you took? Where did you even get that from lol.
Salvia and DMT require intense lungs to ‘break through’ people don’t realize how much they need to inhale to really get there. I have iron lungs, as my dad and his dad did. I’ve never seen anyone that has been able to have a lung capacity like me (volume, not the ability to hold my breath).
You need to inhale until it hurts, and then keep inhaling. You are using a pipe, right? A glass pipe, they are called oil burners? These are a must.
I don’t weigh what I smoke. I put all I have in the pipe, light it up and inhale as much as I can before my body falls apart or there isn’t any left. . . Sometimes this can be upwards of 200mg in there.
The entire pipe becomes completely opaque from smoke…
With Salvia you should get a strong extract, but over 40x isn’t worth it. Then you also need to inhale like a mother. I inhaled until my lungs hurt, blew out, felt like I was in a race car and took another large hit and vwoop… reality is gone.
It’s interesting both of you mention seeing objects and material things as worthless, it reminds me of what a friend of mine told me about his experience on DMT and actually *being* objects instead. He remembers, for instance, knowing what it’s like to be a comb.
@ijesuschrist, I was referring to the way you started your post off with ‘lol?’, all in good fun though man.
Thanks for the answer though; the bad comedowns are what I absolutely hate most about psychadelics. I’ve actually only tried acid, but the past two times the comedowns were unbearably bad. Good to know DMT wouldn’t be the same way, if I could ever get my hands on some.
You know, I’ve been interested in the possibility of trying DMT lately. You may have peaked my interest slightly even more so now. It definitely sounds like an experience I’d like to have, hmmmm. Perhaps I should sleep on this.
Here’s an interesting article discussing Rick Strassman’s research on DMT, particularly regarding entity contact:
@lowryderkid, Ayahuasca is like stretching a DMT trip out (both in intensity and duration) across around 6 hours usually. The peak can still be the most intense of all the hallucinogens, but usually the 6 hours aren’t close to a full blown DMT experience.
DMT, on the other hand, lats about 15 minutes of out-of-body experience, followed by 15 minutes of “whoa…………..” and a slight after glow after that. They call it the “lunch break” drug because you could feasibly do it over a working (wo)man’s lunch break and return to work, slightly frazzled, but completely able.
Some people enjoy music on DMT, some hate it. What happens is as you start to get hit with the first blasts all sound starts to really become distant and metallic buzzing. It can increase the anxiety as reality begins to be stripped away, but I’ve never listened to music.
It really doesn’t matter where you are, excpet that when you put down the pipe you’re vaporizing from doesn’t catch fire when you put it down… otherwise you’re really not going to know where the hell your body is if you go high enough.
I’ve always done it on my bedroom floor or bed, making sure that if I drop the pipe it will go somewhere safe.
Mentality – its up to you. For me, its very anxious feeling. What I imagine before I take off is that I am on the edge of a tall cliff about to jump in water. I know I will make it safely down and be unharmed, but I need to muster the mental strength to take the leap. Once I get the excitement and strength to “jump” I start inhaling… and … well… jump.
@Martijn Schirp, I will try to get something! Cannot promise anything though.
But from what I heard with Ayahuasca is that, although it is less intense, you are more in contact with yourself and therefore you can process certain experiences better?
With DMT I had the feeling that I was in another world, where really nothing counts, only the ‘being’, at least with my eyes closed.
About the book: I have yet 3 books to read. I should make a challenge out of it because I am so bad at reading books.
With 25i-NBOMe, me and my friend each took two tabs which each contained 1000ug of the stuff. We both tripped, but he reported distortions and undulations and colors and such, while I felt nothing of the sort. Everything felt different: my thoughts, the way I perceive music, etc, all the usual expectations save for visual effects.
I smoked a very large bowl of 35x Salvia Divinorum standardized extract from arenaethnobotanicals.com, and while my friends had very intense visual and perceptual experiences, I felt quite clear, and levelheaded despite a strange effect…
To quote what was actually my first post ever:
“My Salvia experience is rather unusual, and it has the same effect every time. The first time I smoked it, I simply broke out into incessant, uncontrollable maniacal laughter for a solid five minutes. I didn’t know what I was laughing at, but apparently it was funny. Even though I was laughing, I didn’t enjoy the experience, because there was nothing to be laughing about, and I wanted to stop, but I had no control of myself. It felt like someone else had control of my body. The second time a couple weeks later, the moment it kicked in, I said with an evil grin, “I’m back!”. But I didn’t choose to say that, and I don’t know why I did, then for the rest of the trip I was just feeling giddy in an evil way while being captivated by how painful it felt to touch this fabric on the pillow next to me, for whatever reason. The third and final time I smoked it was a year later, and I was with a new friend of mine, who was sort of my best friend, and we were in the woods at the top of a hill in a clearing surrounded by birch trees. The second I came up, my friend asked me how I felt, and I said something along the lines of, “I…I don’t know…I…uhh…It’s just…I…somethings not right, somethings not right!”. And he was like, “Tayler? You alright, dude?”. And I said, “Tayler’s not here anymore”, with an evil smirk. And again I found myself going along for the ride in a body and mouth that were no longer under my control.
Obviously my salvia experience is very unusual. Perhaps I have multiple personality disorder which is triggered by Salvia? Never had a single change in my field of vision, or ability to hear. And I was smoking 35x extract from the most well known vendor on the web. Just felt like I let someone else taking over, and they were sinister. Really, really scary, so I haven’t smoked it since, and plan never to do so again.”
Trust me, I know how to properly dose all drugs. I do my research. I just react in a very different way to psychedelics. It is weird though, because weed affects me rather strongly, and obviously alcohol gets me too. But other than that, I’m a super hard-head to drugs. I’m always the one that makes sure people don’t do stupid or dangerous stuff while I trip with friends, because I’m the only one who is coherent. However, I forgot to mention (I just remembered) that once when tripping on 33mg of 2c-e I had visuals. The 3D perspective was very exaggerated, and the symbols on the carpet seemed to float above floor level a tad bit. But that was at the peak and was very brief, and then the visuals were gone.
I’ve never seen colors, patterns, fractals, whatever this kaleidoscopic visual thing is that everyone talks about, or anything like that, but I want to very much. Do you have any suggestions of drugs that could help me achieve visuals?
@grantgodfrey7, come down bad? what do you mean???? I’ve never heard of this with any psychadelic. You are usually thanking all that is holy you have made it out alive and in one piece or you are walking on a cloud of nice feelings “After glow”
@Filip, Your first steps in hyper space.
I’m not sure about your second experience but your first seems like just the first taste of DMT. If you were to use an oil pipe or “the machine”, you would place the previous experiences as mild.
You’ll have conversations (usually 1-way conversations, lol) with entities.
This is where the duality of reality really begins to make me question everything. :O !
@snaysler, my knowledge is a bit cloudy on these new compounds but I thought 1mg was enough to give to 5 people (1000ug).
The problem with most drugs that give real visual effects is dosage. You really don’t know dosage. What did the acid you take taste like? How about the 5-nbome?
Its a trick question – the amounts should be so small you taste nothing. If you taste something bitter, or metallic… well you are the subject of false advertising.
I still believe that with salvia and [ESPECIALLY] DMT is that you didn’t inhale enough. You need to be a trooper and over do it, you need to inhale to painful levels and then you break through. The structure of DMT is so similar to serotonin that if you had some kind of immunity to it, I’d believe you probably couldn’t function in society because you’d basically be brain dead, or at least mentally imparied.
What I would do is either get / make some DMT again, and make sure its a white crystalline (yellow crystals = ??) solid. You need an oil burner, I can’t state that enough. Sprinkling it on weed is for weak trips.
Otherwise get some mushrooms and some orange juice / mango juice. Ingest double what you’d normally take. You can buy them online – google magic truffles. They are legal to own, even in the U.S.
Other actual visual distortions… I’ve only done LSD (weak) shrooms dmtsalvia and weak ayahuasca. I stay away from the 2-Cx’s. I’d retry DMT – many, many, many people never break through because they can never inhale enough. Yet they say its either bunk DMT, or that it doesn’t work for them. Neurologically… probably not possible.
I am thoroughly fascinated by this substance, and definitely intend to try it, but I also really wanna wait a few years. Only done LSD once, not done shrooms yet, I feel like DMT can certainly wait. My housemate was planning on doing it…and then saw his ex-gf of only a fortnight ago walking hand in hand with this dude we know. Not cool. Not good headspace.
@ijesuschrist, It was like a very intense marijuana come down. Complete lethargy and lack of energy. Just ‘dead’ feeling. The trips themselves were great, mind-opening. I’ve tripped four times, and the last two had terrible come downs.