Description of DMT (Dimethyltryptamine) to a non-user.
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So, yesterday I had my first experience with DMT and it is really something amazing.
It is so difficult to explain what you feel and what you see but I will give it a try by explaining my whole experience.
The trips (I did it two times):
- So we made a couple of short joints, starting with only tabacco, going to a part with tabacco and the DMT to another short end part with only tabacco. First one of my friends who did it before took one joint himself to try it out, since this was bought from another person than last time. The first thing I noticed is the immense smell of it. At the one hand it smells disgusting, but on the other hand not at all, kind of weird. My friend was in a quite short trip in my idea, and he told us that he experienced it less strong than the first time he did it, so I was a little bit disappointed, but nevertheless the rest of us did it as well (5 in total, I think it might be better to do it with less people). First of all we meditated a little bit, but since not everybody was familiar with meditation this was difficult as well, and second of all we had relaxing music on. Anyway, I sat down on the bed in preparation to smoke the joint. I was a little bit ‘anxious’ of what to expect, but on the other hand excited and calm as well. The first inhalation tasted like a cigarette, but slightly different already. With the second and third inhale I already tasted the DMT and it felt like some sort of smoke ‘bomb’ was planted inside my body every time I inhaled the DMT. It felt like it was spreading all over my body. I was told that I should keep the smoke of DMT inside my body for a while and not exhale it immediately like you would normally do, so this is what I did. With every inhalation it became harder and harder to continue smoking and at one point everything became so unreal, so I closed my eyes and laid down on the bed.
What I started to see was unbelievable. First of all, the immense amount of shapes and colors and second of all the ‘shadows’ that appeared. I had the feeling that I was being sucked in slowly in some kind of tunnel and that those dark shapes wanted to take me with them. It was amazing and I wanted to come with them so badly, to go to the end of that tunnel and see what was there, but it seemed that I could not go behind a certain point. They were communicating to me in an unexplainable way, because it is not based on sound, but more as in some kind of feeling. I knew what they wanted, and I wanted it too! Unfortunately the trip did not last long enough and it slowly began to fade away, and once I was out, I wanted to go another time, to see the end of the tunnel, make the trip in a better way.
I thought that maybe I did not do it in a right way, because I inhaled and exhaled, while I thought that maybe I should inhale, wait, inhale more, wait, inhale more wait, until you come to a point that you have to cough everything out because your longs are filled with so much smoke already, so I decided that the second time I will try to do that.
After 2/2,5 hours we did another trip, with less people now and different music.
So I decided to stick to my plan with the inhalation. I knew that the DMT was going to be earlier in the joint already so I had only 1 inhalation of tabacco before the DMT would be there already.
So I tried to smoke it in the way I described above: inhale, wait, inhale more, wait, inhale more etc. and it was extremel difficult. With every new inhalation I wanted to exhale and had to use my willpower to keep the smoke inside me.
Again I came to the point where everything started to change and I knew I was being sucked into it, but I took one more inhalation before I closed my eyes and laid down again.
There I was, back again in my trip, hoping to take a journey into the tunnel again. BUT: my trip was totally different now. No tunnel, no shadows, apart from one appearing at the beginning of my trip but quickly fading away.
Now the experience was different, I saw shapes and colors again, but it was like they were the music that was being played. It was like I was seeing the music in some kind of weird way. I did not see any shadows anymore, only the shapes and colors. This trip felt so different from the first one and it felt like I was in another dimension again. I have more troubles explaining what I saw the second time, because it was so strange and I just do not have words to describe it.
In the end it was the most amazing experience I have ever been through and it is really not explainable what you feel/see. You cannot compare it to anything else we are familiar with in ‘our world’ as we know it.
I definitely want to try it again, especially because my friend said that he had it more intense the first time he did it and I do now know what the reasons can be.
I think we had around 40/45 mg in one joint, while normally it should be around 35, so it cannot be due to the amount I think.
Is it possible that there are different kind of strengths of DMT? The way it is prepared maybe? Or maybe because we were with too much people? Or we did not meditate well enough? Or maybe the way I inhaled was not good? Should I inhale stronger and less inhalations for example? @IJesusChrist, do you know some explanations? Although I do found my trip very intense and amazing, especially the first time I had the feeling that I was not experiencing it for the 100%. I cannot explain why because I have no comparison material, but I just feel like there is more, like I could go inside that tunnel and see more than I saw already. It is just a feeling, I cannot explain it.
So, what is my status right now? Calm… The moment I got out of the trip I felt calm. Some kind of calmness and peace. It is like the stressful thoughts that are coming into my head do no matter so much as they would do normally.
I do not know if this is a temporary effect, or that it will last for longer, but I really do it is not temporary and that my vision/feeling/perception of reality, or at least the reality we are in in our daily life, because my DMT experience felt more like reality than the reality in my daily life does. It was just far too short, I had the idea that it was only 1 minut or less, while it lasted 10 minuts. Such an amazing experience, I still cannot understand everything that I saw, because I was so amazed at that moment. Also my hands became HOT as hell and my whole body just became conscious. Like meditation should be.
So, my first time experience of DMT: I definitely recommend it to everybody.
@ijesuschrist, Thank you for your input! I haven’t tried Any type of phsycadelic, but DMT is one id definitely like to try at some point in my life. Maybe not right now, but in the future, yes! I love hearing other people’s opinions and experiences of this drug.
@ijesuschrist, That’s false. PURE lsd doesn’t have a taste. Slightly impure LSD still gives the desired effects, but it can have a taste.
Of the four times I took it, twice was flavorless and the other two times had a somewhat metallic taste, very very subtle. All four trips were definitely the same drug
I am a huge fan of Joe Rogan and his podcasts. He is probably the most vocal spokesperson on the internet when it comes to DMT and other psychedelics. His view on bad trips is that they are almost always beneficial in the end because DMT strips you down bare and reveals the very essence of your existence and if there is something beneath the surface that is bugging you, it just comes out and completely breaks you down. And, bad trips are only beneficial if you know how to break down and decipher your own trip to figure out what the catalyst was that made you have a negative experience. Joe has a paradoxical saying in regards to DMT, he says: “it’s not for everybody, but it’s for you.” So true.
I feel like you need to have a good understanding of the world around you and your own consciousness and reality in order to be in the right state of mind to use DMT. I have not yet tried DMT but i will soon with my best mate once i go back home. I’m just glad i found a community like this one to be able to talk about these kinds of things and share information and experiences in a civilized manner.
@snaysler, haha, you didn’t smoke enough. A small DMT inhale will be very relaxing. You’ll just want to lie down and think, barely talk. Maybe a few sounds escape… feel like a kid in a sandbox. Playing with the ground. Its very easy going.
A true dmt experience you get catapulted to another dimension, meeting new beings, talking to God’s – warping through existence. Your physical body isn’t there anymore, you are simply thoughts…
Good luck next time.
Good stuff, sounds like you’ve done your homework. I had the same funny revelation in your second trip report about material possessions. I tripped with a homie on the back porch of this beautiful house looking over a prairie at an oak tree. My friend described seeing thousands of souls twisting through the bark of the tree, and we both felt a physical, energetic connection to all the life surrounding us. I always get a feeling of bouyancy on dmt, like I’m floating in an ocean of molecules, ever connected to the universe. We both laughed hysterically at our phones and other gadgets as we were coming down. We couldn’t figure out their value and discarded them immediately to take a walk around the prairie to enjoy nature for the first time through reborn eyes.
@versai, Thats becuase you do it every night when you sleep, the DMT afterglow is what causes dreams, if you are woken up during your 45 minuet trip, you’ll still be experiencing the effects, the only problem, there’s no way to tell when you’re tripping.
Amazing Filip, pretty cool! :) When are we going to meet? (what date are you leaving for Nepal again?
Anyways, for next time, try out the ‘Machine’. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/9570496
I dove through the wormhole this afternoon for the first time. This is what I experienced.
I took one huge toke followed by one more smaller one of the plastic tasting smoke. This was about 10 minutes after a failed attempt. I soon felt this all encompassing warming feeling immediately followed by visual distortion. I then closed my eyes.
Intensely detailed structures were “warping” and “flowing” around me everywhere. I couldn’t have gotten scared if I wanted to. There was a very peaceful and loving energy about it. Soon after these patterns started I became aware of a presence. It was a female energy/spirit/form/whatever.
I don’t hear many people reporting about hearing much, but I’m a very musical person and particularly in tune with sound. The female energy was speaking, in English, to me. She kept saying “take my hand, I want to take you further.” Well I didn’t have hands in this space but I submitted to her voice and took her hand with my minds eye.
Every time I would take her hand I would see different patterns and fractals. This continued for a few more minutes and then multiple voices said “Don’t worry, we’ll let you down easy.” They repeated that until I accepted that I would be ok.
I started to feel like I was missing out on something and didn’t go far enough. Then the female energy came back and said “It’s okay, you will be back here again. I want you to feel my love before you go” She opened her arms and took me in with love, embracing me fully, then sent me back to my body very easily like the other voices promised. I felt euphoric and at complete peace as I came down.
It was an immensely positive state of mind. The best part about that is “she” said I will return to that mind space. It would be truly amazing to return to that space.
@grantgodfrey7, you can actually play with the pharmacology of certain drugs to mimic LSD…
example: Lsd hits receptors 1 with 10 strength, receptor 2 with 40 strength, and receptor 3 with 20 strength.
Drug A hits receptor 1 with 10 strength and receptor 2 with 10 strength
Drug B hits receptor 2 with 30 strength and receptor 3 with 20 strength
nearly perfectly mimicing LSD… its not as simple as this of course, but you get the idea.
So yesterday I did it again for the third time, different DMT (I think it was more pure this time) and in larger proportions. I smoked it also in a ‘more adequate’ way, because the person showing me how to smoke it, did it different this time, and I felt it more intense as well.
Anyway, this time was different again from the first two times. First of all, I was in an environment with two friends now. I shared one big joint with the more experienced friend, and while he started to dance to the music after I was being ‘sucked into the other world’ he looked like some alien kind of creature and his dance moves were like from outer space. I do not understand how he can be so active while being ‘under the influence of DMT’ but he is an experienced drug user, so it probably comes with experience. My other friend was sitting on the couch and while I had my eyes open for the first few moments (in contrary to the first two times two days before) it looked like she was some kind of alien as well. Just like my dancing friend with 8 arms around him, it looked like her legs and arms were all over the couch and all over me.
Furthermore in the first few moments it felt like I had some strange hairs/strings in my mouth and I could not get them out of there. Very very strange, it was not very annoying, but it felt like I was going to choke in the first place and my mouth and lips felt so strange. I really do not understand where this came from and what this would mean.
Anyway, after that I closed my eyes and again I saw my shadow friends. I felt like I was in a different place than the first two times, and I do not know whether it was at the other side of the tunnel or not, but I still feel as if there is more than what I saw. I saw those shapes and shadows and it was like I saw an alien version of my dancing friend (who was at the same time under the influence of DMT as me) as one of the shapes that I saw. It did not look like him, but in some way I knew/felt that it was him.
And those other shapes shadows and the circle of patterns that was spinning were there. I do not know what they wanted to tell me, or what the meaning was or whatever, and I am so curious to find out more about them.
It really is the best possible place to be in, I cannot describe it in another way. I want to know more about this place, I want to see the ins and outs, simply everything.
For me it is a place where nothing matters, where everything simply is, without judgements, without nothing, it just is. I do not know how to say this differently, because I am amazed and stunned by the things I have seen.
After that I have watched the Spirit Molecule for the second time, and I understood better what those people were talking about and what they meant.
I was wondering though how those volunteers in the Spirit Molecule got the DMT. Whether it was injected, or smoked as well. I think they got it injected, because they were talking about higher doses etc. Because they were talking about things that I have not experienced either. They were talking about ‘earth’ consciousness in the trip or something like that, but I feel that every time I trip I am in a different place and nothing from earth matters anymore. I am therefore curious to try ayahuasca, be in a longer trip and find out about certain trauma’s/experiences from your ‘earth’ life which can be processed or viewed in a different way due to the ayahuasca experience.
Anyway, to end this story: it was a great trip again, and I cannot wait for the next time.
@ijesuschrist, Thanks for the input. You could be correct, but I know that I smoked about 70mg or so of the yellow powder, which with average impurities I would imagine is still enough to at least almost break through. Don’t worry, I will definitely try again with higher dosage, I’m just short on cash for the next week or so. Although it’s worth noting that of the dozens of psychedelics I’ve tried (weed, shrooms, lsd, mdma, 2c-e, 25i-NBOMe, salvia, dmt, etc), I’ve always required a very large dosage to become as “impaired” as my friends, and I’ve never actually had a visual hallucination, it’s all feelings and thoughts that change for me. (with the exception of dream-like images on my last DMT experience) And LSD doesn’t work for me. I’ve tried it three times, each time with an additional dose, and while my friends blast off, I remain completely sober, aside from a mild inability to focus on certain complicated tasks, which generally lasts for a day or so.
I would definitely love to visit hyperspace in the way I’ve heard it described, though :D
How much does it take you to get there?
Interesting that you saw a weed nug in your first report, also. Another friend of mine reported tripping on dmt for an unbelievable 7 hours. He owed it to smoking weed, saying that he communicated with entities and asked them for a way to prolong the experience. They answered in some intelligent way that suggested him to try smoking copious amounts of weed while tripping. This dude was super informed on dmt and had previously read that it wasn’t possible online. The entities laughed at him when he told them, saying that they’re almighty and weed would most definitely work.
Reportedly he was able to metaphorically press the button down on the DMTrip with 1 dose of dmt, and hold it down for 5hrs with about an 8th of dank weed packed bowl after bowl. He said this allowed him to maintain contact with the entities he was experiencing, and that they continued to communicate with him. Whenever he thought it couldn’t get more weird, it would. When he thought to himself “I hope I’m not shown spiders, that’s one thing I’m afraid of seeing” the entities laughed at him and told him there was nothing to fear and bombarded him with visions of spiders and other challenges for him to overcome and learn from. He said the strong visuals lasted for ~4 hours, with lasting effects for a total 7hrs.
I was pretty amazed and have yet to try this… I usually can’t function well while on DMT to be able to pack a bowl, and I notice my mind is much more foggy and forgetful of the experience when I’m stoned. But may be something worth trying. Weed has already been proven an efficient booster to shrooms, in my experience anyway.
One of a kind experience, for sure. I am leaving May 31th and this is my last week in my current apartment, so I would say as soon as possible. Lets PM?
The machine seems very interesting! I just do not know if I am handy enough to make it.
Describing DMT to someone who has never tried it is like describing a kaleidoscope to a blind man… you cant do it. No matter how well you prepare yourself for the trip, your expectations will be blown away. NOTE: There is a HUGE difference between taking a couple puffs… and having a 15 minute break through where 50mg is inhaled between 4-7 tokes. Having a full breakthrough is like loading a gun with a dream bullet, putting it to your dome, and blowing your head off into elf spice hyperspace. Most of the time your body will initially go limp, and will feel as if you have fainted or “died”… this is normal and where I have seen first timers freak out (such as my first time) all I can say is you have to prepare yourself to let go at this point, do not try to control it. Lights do effect the trip, some people like this I personally wear a sleeping mask.. Audio perception is distorted for the first few minutes as well, I like to put a soothing song on my beats though for the come down. My suggestion would be to do it with someone who has experienced it. Have fun!
@Filip, Bring some when you come to visit ;)!
Ayahuasca is a lot different from what I can gather from your description. Much less intense, more personal, easier to interpret, much longer etc.
About the DMT documentary, just read the book (I have it if you want to borrow it). It is much better.
@snaysler, you took 25-inbome and didn’t have any hallucinatory impairments? Were you aware the amount you took? Where did you even get that from lol.
Salvia and DMT require intense lungs to ‘break through’ people don’t realize how much they need to inhale to really get there. I have iron lungs, as my dad and his dad did. I’ve never seen anyone that has been able to have a lung capacity like me (volume, not the ability to hold my breath).
You need to inhale until it hurts, and then keep inhaling. You are using a pipe, right? A glass pipe, they are called oil burners? These are a must.
I don’t weigh what I smoke. I put all I have in the pipe, light it up and inhale as much as I can before my body falls apart or there isn’t any left. . . Sometimes this can be upwards of 200mg in there.
The entire pipe becomes completely opaque from smoke…
With Salvia you should get a strong extract, but over 40x isn’t worth it. Then you also need to inhale like a mother. I inhaled until my lungs hurt, blew out, felt like I was in a race car and took another large hit and vwoop… reality is gone.