Description of DMT (Dimethyltryptamine) to a non-user.
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@ijesuschrist, I’m positive it was LSD lol. I researched the drug a lot before taking it, and I read several places about the comedown. Maybe you’re just lucky?
After the last two times (which admittedly were much stronger doses than the first two times), I felt completely exhausted (physically and most definitely mentally).
Everything I’ve read says that the comedown varies depending on the person. Mine was very negative (but it’s probably because I wasn’t anticipating it after my first two experiences)
@ijesuschrist, That’s false. PURE lsd doesn’t have a taste. Slightly impure LSD still gives the desired effects, but it can have a taste.
Of the four times I took it, twice was flavorless and the other two times had a somewhat metallic taste, very very subtle. All four trips were definitely the same drug
@grantgodfrey7, you can actually play with the pharmacology of certain drugs to mimic LSD…
example: Lsd hits receptors 1 with 10 strength, receptor 2 with 40 strength, and receptor 3 with 20 strength.
Drug A hits receptor 1 with 10 strength and receptor 2 with 10 strength
Drug B hits receptor 2 with 30 strength and receptor 3 with 20 strength
nearly perfectly mimicing LSD… its not as simple as this of course, but you get the idea.
@lowryderkid, Ayahuasca is like stretching a DMT trip out (both in intensity and duration) across around 6 hours usually. The peak can still be the most intense of all the hallucinogens, but usually the 6 hours aren’t close to a full blown DMT experience.
DMT, on the other hand, lats about 15 minutes of out-of-body experience, followed by 15 minutes of “whoa…………..” and a slight after glow after that. They call it the “lunch break” drug because you could feasibly do it over a working (wo)man’s lunch break and return to work, slightly frazzled, but completely able.
Some people enjoy music on DMT, some hate it. What happens is as you start to get hit with the first blasts all sound starts to really become distant and metallic buzzing. It can increase the anxiety as reality begins to be stripped away, but I’ve never listened to music.
It really doesn’t matter where you are, excpet that when you put down the pipe you’re vaporizing from doesn’t catch fire when you put it down… otherwise you’re really not going to know where the hell your body is if you go high enough.
I’ve always done it on my bedroom floor or bed, making sure that if I drop the pipe it will go somewhere safe.
Mentality – its up to you. For me, its very anxious feeling. What I imagine before I take off is that I am on the edge of a tall cliff about to jump in water. I know I will make it safely down and be unharmed, but I need to muster the mental strength to take the leap. Once I get the excitement and strength to “jump” I start inhaling… and … well… jump.
First time i tried dmt was life changing but really unsettling.
The beginning was fine, smoked, time slowed down and dont remember exhaling, then I shut my eyes. I was enclosed in this huge geometrical walled room with very odd, geometric/fractal patterns illuminating every inch. It looked like some virutal reality room and I could see what was supposed to be myself just floating in the middle. Then my perception started to move towards this light where, when I entered the light i could see my room from a birdseye perspective, but it wasn’t my room. It was a representation in this dmt realm that just resembled my room with my two friends in it.
I had no goddamn Idea what was going on so I freaked out and my friends turned the light on [in real life], the environment changed dramatically and the sound disturbances as well as change cause this weird effect in my visuals to occur. My eyes were open, I thought, and everything started to multiply and fold on itself. It looked like my room was covered in all this multiplying noodle like worms that as each one divided and squirmed, a hundred more did the same and this created a horrible feeling of anxiety that made me lose it.
I finally told my friends to chill, and I chilled, pulling/focusing back on the white light. I went through once more and opened my eyes finally. Seeing my familiar surroundings. But then, the lights on, my vision irised out and all of a sudden it went from normal to super cartoony, super weird alternate reality of my room. Everything I saw that wasn’t actually I later figured to be silouttes of objects my mind could just pick out of two or more objects within each others depth, overlapping in my eyes and creating something like little people on my desk or something. I also noticed I could control my reality. I willed the walls to breath, they breathed. I willed my walls to ooze, they started dripping, but then everything else did and I ended the trip feeling kind of nauseous.
But the second trip was great
The idea that it is responsible for dreams and is released upon death, is still a myth.
I’ve done it once, a low dosage… after the third hit I was being ”lifted” and the whole room came to life. ”Bubbly” kaladiescopes were present everywhere and things were changing color. All this for about 3-5 minutes and it was gone. I haven’t had a ‘breakthrough’, but I would love to next time.
From my experience it was not more extreme than my other psychedelic trips with higher dosages (esp. with LSD and 2cb) but I assume I need a larger dosage to experience the craziness/mystical of this substance which people talk about.
@ijesuschrist, Do you think you need to be in a good environment and state of mind like most psychedelics? Or not? Because I’ve heard it really does not matter since you literally rocket away from your current place of inhabitant and zoom into another dimension.
@blankey, depends where you are in your life, not really on that day.
its much like dreams, you’ll have anxious dreams if in general your work or daily life has a lot of stress, but even if you can relax at home, you still may have some crazy dreams.
if however you don’t give a shit about anything and are generally a happy person, but someone just threw dog poop on your face, its not going to have a great affect on the trip.
DMT is just too fast to collect thoughts like that.
If you want DMT go make it. You only need 3 hardware store items and you can get the stuff from various plants… do some research. Chances are you live next to a field of DMT-growing plants.
I’m no newcomer to psychedelics or DMT…the latter I have ingested in the form of ayahuasca, both in Peru and here in the UK, I’ve taken my own pharma concoctions, and I have smoked it on numerous occasions. However my first and only DMT breakthrough experience definitely ranks as one of the most amazing things to have happened to me.
I had a new and particularly clean looking batch of spice, and having switched to caapi changa as my spice smoke of choice, I thought I would smoke some freebase spice with my glass pipe, it being a long time since I’d done so. In the course of the evening I’d had maybe two beers and a few spliffs, it being the weekend (wouldn’t usually mix alcohol and spice) and prior to smoking I had taken two 100mg 5-HTP capsules. I thought I should give some background as I think there may have been some interaction going on. I thought the 5-HTP may produce an interesting synergy, at night it being converted into melatonin.
So…new batch of spice, same glass pipe as used previously, smoking technique more or less the same…but a very different result. For around ten minutes before hand I did some mindfulness breathing to relax me and still my mind before taking the plunge. I thought the dose I used as around 50mg (eyeballed..) but I’m thinking it was maybe a bit more than this (later measurements with a scale [recommended!] put the amount nearer to 100mg.
I took the pipe, and used a candle to heat the pipe and get the vapours flowing, then I took a good lungful…I felt a shift very quickly…I set the pipe down…and then BAM! I hear this very audible crack in my head as I was torn away from this reality, and the change in consciousnesses was so extreme and so sudden the logical part of my mind thought I could only have killed myself! I seemed to ‘come to’ to find some very powerful alien force trying to wrest control of my mind or consciousness. There was not even a millisecond here to contemplate having another hit from the pipe! I’ve never been hit by this speed or intensity by DMT ever before. I usually would preserve but this hit me like an electric psychedelic tsunami. Of my time alive on Earth, the pure, exquisite, primal terror experienced in those few minutes were well and truly beyond anything I have ever experienced before…I have had the DMT terrors once before, smoking around 100mg while on pharma…but this eclipsed that particular incident. The experience felt incredibly electric, I was enveloped by a fierce and awesome energy…the experience was the most intense, magical, alien, bizarre, terrifying, deep, profound and beautiful of my life. It was truly ineffable…words don’t mean much there, they really lack the power to describe such experiences. Interspersed with very powerful DMT imagery, I experienced full blown and very detailed visions of my life…like my life flashing before my eyes. These happened at a crazy break neck speed, I would be shown this interdimensional montage or flipbook incredibly rapidly and then I would be teleported between these different highly detailed memories and places in my mind…but I was there reliving them. Reality was completely replaced by ultra realistic other places, it was like time travel or teleportation, or some ultra advanced alien technology as opposed to a drug experience! What I experienced felt IMPOSSIBLE in a way I simply can’t describe in words. During the experience, the feeling of love for people in my life, family and friends, was like a grounding lantern or beacon. I had quite noticeable tremors on re-entry. I’ve never had a drug experience as vivid as this, and I never remember experiencing such vivid and detailed visions on DMT ever before. Usually it is a very alien but beautiful experience for me…this was both very alien and other worldly while also very personal as well.
This experience was very special to me. NO previous dabbling with psychedelics…DMT included…could have prepared me for the depth or power of this experience, it was far beyond anything experienced previously. I didn’t encounter any entities as such…I haven’t yet via DMT…but I really feel I got a glimpse of or connected to something very deep and very powerful. I feel really very grateful for the experience, despite it scaring the hell out of me at the same time!
It is funny as prior to the experience I had been thinking that maybe DMT was a tad overrated in some ways…I knew it was unique and very powerful stuff…but I thought maybe, just maybe…it was a tad over-hyped!! Well I don’t think that any more. It’s weird because you come down from that state, the universe folds back in on itself to conform to sober serotonin mode, and you lose that ability to see or describe or bring back much of what was experienced. But I remember feeling…while in that state…I was experiencing something deeply powerful and mysterious, to put it lightly. Like witnessing actual supernatural magic, and I’m not speaking metaphorically. And I like to think I’m a pretty rational and sceptical guy, but this blew my mind in a way it has never ever been blown before. And hey, even if it is nothing more than highly elaborate and spectacular brain fireworks, then that alone is still amazing!!
I can also see the advantage of smoked, pure freebase DMT over other methods of ingestion, including changa (and I love my changa) on occasion…the sheer, raw power of it is crystal clear and straight to the point.
@samwise, “It’s weird because you come down from that state, the universe folds back in on itself to conform to sober serotonin mode, and you lose that ability to see or describe or bring back much of what was experienced. But I remember feeling…”
I have a theory of what DMT does, it has to do with insights from dreams.
I believe that dreams come from left over feelings in the day, usually. Stress and happiness are carried over into the dream land. Your brain first FEELS these feelings, and then matches a story (the dream) TO THEM. Rather than the other way around – where we see and do, and then feel.
I think DMT acts the same way. The molecule acts on our most profound feelings, the most extreme highs and lows that serotonin alone can only tickle, and then, the rest of the brain interprets whats going on.
Its just a thought thats been in my head for some time.
@ijesuschrist, Hey Jon, interesting stuff. I definitely notice my dreams incorporate very recent life events. But sometimes crazy and amazing dreams will pop out of nowhere, unrelated to either your mind-state prior to sleep or your recent life events. Sometimes these dreams can be profound enough to influence your mind-state as your begin your day! But I like your thinking here. Very interesting stuff this DMT…
@samwise, I was thinking that while writing – or when you remember something/someone that you legitimately haven’t thought of in YEARS – suddenly they are in your dream? That would kind of discredit my previous theory.
:) Its just a thought I think is worth considering.
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