Description of DMT (Dimethyltryptamine) to a non-user.
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Good stuff, sounds like you’ve done your homework. I had the same funny revelation in your second trip report about material possessions. I tripped with a homie on the back porch of this beautiful house looking over a prairie at an oak tree. My friend described seeing thousands of souls twisting through the bark of the tree, and we both felt a physical, energetic connection to all the life surrounding us. I always get a feeling of bouyancy on dmt, like I’m floating in an ocean of molecules, ever connected to the universe. We both laughed hysterically at our phones and other gadgets as we were coming down. We couldn’t figure out their value and discarded them immediately to take a walk around the prairie to enjoy nature for the first time through reborn eyes.
@grantgodfrey7, you can actually play with the pharmacology of certain drugs to mimic LSD…
example: Lsd hits receptors 1 with 10 strength, receptor 2 with 40 strength, and receptor 3 with 20 strength.
Drug A hits receptor 1 with 10 strength and receptor 2 with 10 strength
Drug B hits receptor 2 with 30 strength and receptor 3 with 20 strength
nearly perfectly mimicing LSD… its not as simple as this of course, but you get the idea.
Amazing Filip, pretty cool! :) When are we going to meet? (what date are you leaving for Nepal again?
Anyways, for next time, try out the ‘Machine’. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/9570496
So yesterday I did it again for the third time, different DMT (I think it was more pure this time) and in larger proportions. I smoked it also in a ‘more adequate’ way, because the person showing me how to smoke it, did it different this time, and I felt it more intense as well.
Anyway, this time was different again from the first two times. First of all, I was in an environment with two friends now. I shared one big joint with the more experienced friend, and while he started to dance to the music after I was being ‘sucked into the other world’ he looked like some alien kind of creature and his dance moves were like from outer space. I do not understand how he can be so active while being ‘under the influence of DMT’ but he is an experienced drug user, so it probably comes with experience. My other friend was sitting on the couch and while I had my eyes open for the first few moments (in contrary to the first two times two days before) it looked like she was some kind of alien as well. Just like my dancing friend with 8 arms around him, it looked like her legs and arms were all over the couch and all over me.
Furthermore in the first few moments it felt like I had some strange hairs/strings in my mouth and I could not get them out of there. Very very strange, it was not very annoying, but it felt like I was going to choke in the first place and my mouth and lips felt so strange. I really do not understand where this came from and what this would mean.
Anyway, after that I closed my eyes and again I saw my shadow friends. I felt like I was in a different place than the first two times, and I do not know whether it was at the other side of the tunnel or not, but I still feel as if there is more than what I saw. I saw those shapes and shadows and it was like I saw an alien version of my dancing friend (who was at the same time under the influence of DMT as me) as one of the shapes that I saw. It did not look like him, but in some way I knew/felt that it was him.
And those other shapes shadows and the circle of patterns that was spinning were there. I do not know what they wanted to tell me, or what the meaning was or whatever, and I am so curious to find out more about them.
It really is the best possible place to be in, I cannot describe it in another way. I want to know more about this place, I want to see the ins and outs, simply everything.
For me it is a place where nothing matters, where everything simply is, without judgements, without nothing, it just is. I do not know how to say this differently, because I am amazed and stunned by the things I have seen.
After that I have watched the Spirit Molecule for the second time, and I understood better what those people were talking about and what they meant.
I was wondering though how those volunteers in the Spirit Molecule got the DMT. Whether it was injected, or smoked as well. I think they got it injected, because they were talking about higher doses etc. Because they were talking about things that I have not experienced either. They were talking about ‘earth’ consciousness in the trip or something like that, but I feel that every time I trip I am in a different place and nothing from earth matters anymore. I am therefore curious to try ayahuasca, be in a longer trip and find out about certain trauma’s/experiences from your ‘earth’ life which can be processed or viewed in a different way due to the ayahuasca experience.
Anyway, to end this story: it was a great trip again, and I cannot wait for the next time.
Interesting that you saw a weed nug in your first report, also. Another friend of mine reported tripping on dmt for an unbelievable 7 hours. He owed it to smoking weed, saying that he communicated with entities and asked them for a way to prolong the experience. They answered in some intelligent way that suggested him to try smoking copious amounts of weed while tripping. This dude was super informed on dmt and had previously read that it wasn’t possible online. The entities laughed at him when he told them, saying that they’re almighty and weed would most definitely work.
Reportedly he was able to metaphorically press the button down on the DMTrip with 1 dose of dmt, and hold it down for 5hrs with about an 8th of dank weed packed bowl after bowl. He said this allowed him to maintain contact with the entities he was experiencing, and that they continued to communicate with him. Whenever he thought it couldn’t get more weird, it would. When he thought to himself “I hope I’m not shown spiders, that’s one thing I’m afraid of seeing” the entities laughed at him and told him there was nothing to fear and bombarded him with visions of spiders and other challenges for him to overcome and learn from. He said the strong visuals lasted for ~4 hours, with lasting effects for a total 7hrs.
I was pretty amazed and have yet to try this… I usually can’t function well while on DMT to be able to pack a bowl, and I notice my mind is much more foggy and forgetful of the experience when I’m stoned. But may be something worth trying. Weed has already been proven an efficient booster to shrooms, in my experience anyway.
One of a kind experience, for sure. I am leaving May 31th and this is my last week in my current apartment, so I would say as soon as possible. Lets PM?
The machine seems very interesting! I just do not know if I am handy enough to make it.
@snaysler, you took 25-inbome and didn’t have any hallucinatory impairments? Were you aware the amount you took? Where did you even get that from lol.
Salvia and DMT require intense lungs to ‘break through’ people don’t realize how much they need to inhale to really get there. I have iron lungs, as my dad and his dad did. I’ve never seen anyone that has been able to have a lung capacity like me (volume, not the ability to hold my breath).
You need to inhale until it hurts, and then keep inhaling. You are using a pipe, right? A glass pipe, they are called oil burners? These are a must.
I don’t weigh what I smoke. I put all I have in the pipe, light it up and inhale as much as I can before my body falls apart or there isn’t any left. . . Sometimes this can be upwards of 200mg in there.
The entire pipe becomes completely opaque from smoke…
With Salvia you should get a strong extract, but over 40x isn’t worth it. Then you also need to inhale like a mother. I inhaled until my lungs hurt, blew out, felt like I was in a race car and took another large hit and vwoop… reality is gone.
@Filip, Bring some when you come to visit ;)!
Ayahuasca is a lot different from what I can gather from your description. Much less intense, more personal, easier to interpret, much longer etc.
About the DMT documentary, just read the book (I have it if you want to borrow it). It is much better.
@ijesuschrist, I was referring to the way you started your post off with ‘lol?’, all in good fun though man.
Thanks for the answer though; the bad comedowns are what I absolutely hate most about psychadelics. I’ve actually only tried acid, but the past two times the comedowns were unbearably bad. Good to know DMT wouldn’t be the same way, if I could ever get my hands on some.
It’s interesting both of you mention seeing objects and material things as worthless, it reminds me of what a friend of mine told me about his experience on DMT and actually *being* objects instead. He remembers, for instance, knowing what it’s like to be a comb.
Here’s an interesting article discussing Rick Strassman’s research on DMT, particularly regarding entity contact:
@lowryderkid, Ayahuasca is like stretching a DMT trip out (both in intensity and duration) across around 6 hours usually. The peak can still be the most intense of all the hallucinogens, but usually the 6 hours aren’t close to a full blown DMT experience.
DMT, on the other hand, lats about 15 minutes of out-of-body experience, followed by 15 minutes of “whoa…………..” and a slight after glow after that. They call it the “lunch break” drug because you could feasibly do it over a working (wo)man’s lunch break and return to work, slightly frazzled, but completely able.
Some people enjoy music on DMT, some hate it. What happens is as you start to get hit with the first blasts all sound starts to really become distant and metallic buzzing. It can increase the anxiety as reality begins to be stripped away, but I’ve never listened to music.
It really doesn’t matter where you are, excpet that when you put down the pipe you’re vaporizing from doesn’t catch fire when you put it down… otherwise you’re really not going to know where the hell your body is if you go high enough.
I’ve always done it on my bedroom floor or bed, making sure that if I drop the pipe it will go somewhere safe.
Mentality – its up to you. For me, its very anxious feeling. What I imagine before I take off is that I am on the edge of a tall cliff about to jump in water. I know I will make it safely down and be unharmed, but I need to muster the mental strength to take the leap. Once I get the excitement and strength to “jump” I start inhaling… and … well… jump.
You know, I’ve been interested in the possibility of trying DMT lately. You may have peaked my interest slightly even more so now. It definitely sounds like an experience I’d like to have, hmmmm. Perhaps I should sleep on this.
With 25i-NBOMe, me and my friend each took two tabs which each contained 1000ug of the stuff. We both tripped, but he reported distortions and undulations and colors and such, while I felt nothing of the sort. Everything felt different: my thoughts, the way I perceive music, etc, all the usual expectations save for visual effects.
I smoked a very large bowl of 35x Salvia Divinorum standardized extract from arenaethnobotanicals.com, and while my friends had very intense visual and perceptual experiences, I felt quite clear, and levelheaded despite a strange effect…
To quote what was actually my first post ever:
“My Salvia experience is rather unusual, and it has the same effect every time. The first time I smoked it, I simply broke out into incessant, uncontrollable maniacal laughter for a solid five minutes. I didn’t know what I was laughing at, but apparently it was funny. Even though I was laughing, I didn’t enjoy the experience, because there was nothing to be laughing about, and I wanted to stop, but I had no control of myself. It felt like someone else had control of my body. The second time a couple weeks later, the moment it kicked in, I said with an evil grin, “I’m back!”. But I didn’t choose to say that, and I don’t know why I did, then for the rest of the trip I was just feeling giddy in an evil way while being captivated by how painful it felt to touch this fabric on the pillow next to me, for whatever reason. The third and final time I smoked it was a year later, and I was with a new friend of mine, who was sort of my best friend, and we were in the woods at the top of a hill in a clearing surrounded by birch trees. The second I came up, my friend asked me how I felt, and I said something along the lines of, “I…I don’t know…I…uhh…It’s just…I…somethings not right, somethings not right!”. And he was like, “Tayler? You alright, dude?”. And I said, “Tayler’s not here anymore”, with an evil smirk. And again I found myself going along for the ride in a body and mouth that were no longer under my control.
Obviously my salvia experience is very unusual. Perhaps I have multiple personality disorder which is triggered by Salvia? Never had a single change in my field of vision, or ability to hear. And I was smoking 35x extract from the most well known vendor on the web. Just felt like I let someone else taking over, and they were sinister. Really, really scary, so I haven’t smoked it since, and plan never to do so again.”
Trust me, I know how to properly dose all drugs. I do my research. I just react in a very different way to psychedelics. It is weird though, because weed affects me rather strongly, and obviously alcohol gets me too. But other than that, I’m a super hard-head to drugs. I’m always the one that makes sure people don’t do stupid or dangerous stuff while I trip with friends, because I’m the only one who is coherent. However, I forgot to mention (I just remembered) that once when tripping on 33mg of 2c-e I had visuals. The 3D perspective was very exaggerated, and the symbols on the carpet seemed to float above floor level a tad bit. But that was at the peak and was very brief, and then the visuals were gone.
I’ve never seen colors, patterns, fractals, whatever this kaleidoscopic visual thing is that everyone talks about, or anything like that, but I want to very much. Do you have any suggestions of drugs that could help me achieve visuals?
@Martijn Schirp, I will try to get something! Cannot promise anything though.
But from what I heard with Ayahuasca is that, although it is less intense, you are more in contact with yourself and therefore you can process certain experiences better?
With DMT I had the feeling that I was in another world, where really nothing counts, only the ‘being’, at least with my eyes closed.
About the book: I have yet 3 books to read. I should make a challenge out of it because I am so bad at reading books.
@grantgodfrey7, come down bad? what do you mean???? I’ve never heard of this with any psychadelic. You are usually thanking all that is holy you have made it out alive and in one piece or you are walking on a cloud of nice feelings “After glow”