Go outside and do nothing.
Hang out with friends and do nothing.
Soak up the sun and do nothing.
Float underwater and do nothing.
Lay on a trampoline and do nothing.
Make weird noises and do nothing.
Be sad and do nothing.
Be glad and do nothing.
You get the jist.
Do anything and do nothing.
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@classik62, Of course I wouldn’t, seeing how I’d have proof that it was possible. However, people who think they’re “being nothing” are just deluding themselves, it is blissful ignorance. A lack of attention and comprehension.
A pool of water is never completely still.
Plus, a body of water can’t ebb and flow and yet appear still, you’d have to be blind to not see how it was moving.
@moonglade, Have I ever tried meditation? Well, I’ve meditated daily for 10 years. But to say that meditation is doing nothing, that’s just ignorant.
Meditation is the reason I know these things, it’s how I found them out.
Of course I thought I was doing nothing at first, I thought my mind was empty, and so on, but I soon found out that it was complete bullshit. Ignorance.
There’s never nothing going on, you’re never doing nothing, never thinking nothing. You’re never rid of ego. You can tell yourself that you are, but that doesn’t make it so, it’s just delusional.
It’s like peeling off layers. You peel the first one off and think “I’ve peeled it all off, I’m done, this is the truth.” But if you pay some attention, you’ll find that it’s just another layer, you peel it off, just to find another one. Soon you realize that it will never end, there’s always another layer, and another.
You don’t know what you don’t know. You will never arrive.
When you think you’re doing nothing, you’re just deluding yourself, closing your mind, hindering your progress and mental well-being. And it’s not like you’re getting anything in return for it, other than validation of your ego.
The only positive effects that can come from trying to do nothing, is that you stop doing everything wrong. But you could also get these same results from doing things right instead of trying to do nothing, you would get just as much “mind-emptying silent bliss” and you would also accomplish something, get some nice bonus, etc.
Everything is pointless, yes. But there are things that work better, things that feel better, things that are more breathtaking and enlightening, than others.
Life is absolutely worth living, living it to its fullest, instead of wasting it away trying to do nothing.
That’s a sad life.
If you spend your whole life going from A to B you gotta be daft. I’ve been through the whole alphabet, but there’s still infinitely many other points out there to reach.
It’s not a sad life, I’m constantly stoked, absolutely high on life. I don’t need to go from point to point, I’m not attached to it, but I like it. And it’s not like I’ll ever run out of points to reach, because I’m not an ignorant dumbass who denies the depth and reality of things.
Looks like you’ve fallen in the spiritual pitfall.
@manimal, Your posts are what just made me finally sign up to HE. Your perspective is really refreshing and it’s made me research and think a whole lot about lots of stuff. Thanks a lot man, keep doing what you’re doing.
However I would say in defense of doing nothing, that for a lot of people in our mainstream stimulation-laden culture who seem to be more concerned about getting from A to B to C than actually appreciating the fact they’ve just experienced 3 points, doing “nothing” could be beneficial. The are at least calming the constant hailstorm of “do this” “do that” “consume” “stimulate” etc. that they think without thinking about it, meaning they get some clarity to think about the things that are actually relevant to themselves? I think you could say that doing nothing a little more would allow them to at least pick the A-B points that are actually going to fulfill them?
Basically, there’s a lot of thoughts that are counter-productive to doing the things that are exciting and fulfilling to the individual, so couldn’t practicing doing nothing in fact aid some people to pick out the thoughts that are worth turning into actions instead of just doing for the sake of it?
I dare you to tell me that isnt the perfect quote for this.
On the concept that doing nothing, isn’t literally doing nothing, I do a heck of a lot of it. I don’t work, I stay at home. And it can be both stressful and awesome. I love being able to relax and take the time to just think about my life, what’s happening in my mind state, and anything else that might interest me. However doing things does have a certain appeal to it also. Sometimes going out with friends having a few too many drinks and all around just having a good time is exciting. And having a project to do during the day helps the minutes go by. But I’m all for the clearing of the mind theory. It makes me feel more in tune with what’s happening around me.
You can’t really do nothing, it’s just an illusion.
You’re always doing something, there’s never nothing going on. Even the act of “doing nothing” is doing something.
You can never do nothing.
You can never do nothing, you’re always doing stuff.
@urbanuncia I guess move without intention, act without a goal, or work towards a point/goal without thinking about it. You know that moment when you realize time has gone by so much faster even though you slowed down. Soak the moment in by doing nothing while your doing something. If you’ve laid in the grass just to feel the wind and warmth on your face then you know what I mean.
It was ruined before I came here, I merely revealed how ruined it is.
When things do not work, it is better to know that they do not work, than pretend like they do.
Truth only hurts if you favour untruth.
@manimal, Lol you are a very logical person but not very poetic. We all obviously know it’s impossible to do nothing. I think what he is trying to say is to just “be” and do things without direction or purpose. Don’t think just be. I think that is what he meant by doing nothing.
@herpyderpy, I guess is something like doing anything with your soul and nothing with your mind. Just a pure embrace of whatever it is, with no thought intervention.
Is like meditation with your eyes open.
@moonglade, But you can’t not think, you’re always thinking something. Even if you think your mind is silent, look deeper and you’ll see that it’s not.
You’re never not thinking, it’s just an illusion.
And doing things without direction or purpose… that’s fun for like 10 minutes. It doesn’t get you anywhere, doesn’t make you happier or wiser or stronger, doesn’t solve anything, doesn’t help anyone, doesn’t accomplish anything. And you can’t even do it right, because you always have direction, you just choose to ignore it for a while, pretend it isn’t there.
@manimal, I’ll try to make this as literal as possible. You can’t not think but you can silence your mind. Have you ever tried meditation? It is very therapeutic and contributes a great deal to proper mental health. It is the act of just letting go, emptying your head and being present. I think this is what OP is saying we should do. This is “doing nothing”.
Also life is pointless (unless you have a religion) itself does that mean it’s not worth living. If you say the point of life is happiness then what is the point of happiness. If you spend your life just going from Point A to B you will have lived a sad life IMO.
@manimal, If you experience being nothing, you won’t say that it’s impossible. Have you ever seen a completely still pool of water. On the surface the water doesn’t move, doesn’t sway, almost appears as if it is a sheet of ice, But underneath the surface there are currents moving every which way: ebbing and flowing, rotating, up and down..etc.