I’ve always thought the drugs I’ve experienced with was a BAD time in my life. A time that I lost control, lost hope, and lost the ability to have compassion for my own existence. Now that i’m older I’ve looked at the experience as a whole as beneficial. I’m not proud of it, though I don’t regret it one bit. My question is that, ‘can a person become so desensitized to, maybe life in general, that they see even some of the worst things and yet smile at them?’
I could never regret the spiritual and personal insight that i have received from these experiences. maybe they weren’t always the best, sometimes even they were even scary, but as a 21 year old I can happily say that some of the most awe inspiring and amazing experiences have come from drugs.. my awakening process began at a rave about a year and a half ago and i cant even try to remember what my life was like before. We live for the altered states of consciousness, the escape from the mundane. So i say use don’t abuse friends!
@brightwhitelight, the rave scene is dangerous. it teaches you how to love, but at the same time it teaches you how to hide or escape from the vicious reality that impending doom is inevitable. I’ve seen people completely lose themselves in it and come back something that they would never have wanted to be.
Be careful buddy.
@sweetsheets, Im fine my dude, that’s why there are people like me at the scene, to help the first timers, to guide them through. In a way, its a right of passage, a cultural gathering if you will. I feel that is beneficial in very many ways, as for being dangerous, its light years safer then alcohol and nicotine.
Only really when my nose has bled profusely (not for a couple of years now) or when I have a case of achy jaw from MD.
But the positive experiences generally outweigh the relatively minor physical side-effects.
I’ve never seen a photo of myself with a proper gurn on but I think that would make me feel bad. It looks so bad on other people and I know when I feel it that I must be pulling some faces a bit but…whatever…it’s part of it.
1) You should never regret any decision you ever make. They are only things to learn and make you better from. The more difficult, the more you learn.
2) To regret drug use is just a side effect – the fear our society has placed on these “illicit” substances. We’ve grown our whole lives to know they are bad and we shouldn’t use them. Then we do it – and we have that childhood guilt of taking the cookie from the cookie jar. Of course, if you’re high as a kite, and you’re guilty – you’re REALLY fucking guilty. Get over it.
3) All drugs have a place, even methamphetamine, even PCP, even heroine. Their addiction is a counter weight to their use, but they all have something to show. I Would argue if methamphetamine was mainstream, and actually pure, and used at moderate to low doses, the entire work force would increase 5x.
I knew a guy who knew a guy (…) who would take meth. He was an engineer and a damn successful one. In his garage he had everything a metal worker would want. Whenever he’d take meth he’d go out into the garage, and do things in 6 hours men couldn’t do in months. He’d make this incredible works of art, fix motorcycles with ease, etc. Who knows if he remained functional, I don’t know. Probably not if it was anything above monthly use.
I have, 90% of the time, only had negative experiences with drugs. Extreme anxiety, extreme paranoia, extreme panic and depression. But without these drugs I never would have understood how to look at and overcome these negative emotions. I regretted my first time taking mushrooms the day after, and the weeks, and the months. But now I understand to a much greater degree what use that had.
4) All experiences are good, its up to you to build on them in that way.
@brightwhitelight, in terms of physical health yes.
Serotonin sickness, substance induced anxiety/depression. No.
I’ve been around the block, I pulled myself out of the rave scene. The drugs are fun, the people are great and the music is amazing. The substance isn’t real though. The open love of the flower generation died with the love renaissance. For every person like you out there, who is in the scene for what they want it to be while having a good time, there are five people there to get fucked up, and have a good time while not caring about anybody else.
Also, raving is more of a lifestyle than a hobby. It starts off as a pastime, and then consumes you. Your sleep schedule changes, your judgment changes and who you once were ceases to exist. You become infused with the desire to be happy and make others happy. People take advantage of that, and will always take advantage of that and abuse it and lap it up until you’re an empty hull and a shell of who you once were. The party always has to end sometime. I’m glad you still enjoy it and find purpose in the rave scene.
I still go to shows occasionally, I still glove, I still love music and having a good time;
sparingly though. It’s like going to the bars or partying for me now. Once in a while, but not every chance I get, there’s too much more to life for me to spend the rest of mine in a half-full concert hall stepping to a local DJ, or in some barn out in the boonies to an underground artist.
Everybody says that their drug is the safest and most enjoyable (to the original poster, this is a perfect example of that.) My advice to anybody doing any drug, is to keep your head high, mind clear, and accumulated knowledge in mind. Nobody who truly cares for your well-being will tell you to do a drug, or flat-out not to do one. (I advise to stay away from opiates and amphetamines though, as a pre-med major, as those can and will ruin your mind, body, and life if you give them the opportunity to.)
I just realized I feel good in the company of a lot of drug users with emotional problems.
@ijesuschrist, I disagree not all drugs are good. Look at nicotine, heroin, cocaine, and meth, we don’t need any of these drugs to survive. They actually hinder survival. They just aren’t good.
Regret from Marian Websters: to be very sorry for.
I’m sorry to my self that I let excessive abuse of drugs and alcohol blind me from seeking my destiny. I regret the burden I put on my family when I sought pleasure over wisdom.
Regret isn’t necessarily a bad thing unless you make it to be. Like it has been said these are learning experiences but it doesn’t mean I wouldn’t change things in my past. These things keep me motivated to do better in the present and future.
Any way here is a quote by Benjamin Franklin : ” Experience holds a dear school but a fool learns in no other.”
no regrets, I am not perfect and experiences are meant to be had. also at the time it was what I wanted, so why regret that? I had some fun times and never became addicted, or ever touched the really bad stuff. Even if you have in the past though, and you fought through it and now are clean and happy, than why regret that? who knows what would have happened if you didn’t experience that, maybe something else would have happened to you, or you would be a completely different, un-well rounded person if you didn’t. The possibilities are endlesssssssssssss and everything affects everything. no regrets, just lessons AS LONG AS YOU LEARN FROM IT.
@pwhalen, you don’t need any drugs to survive except the endogenous ones. . . I don’t see the connection here.
Most are toxic at high doses, yeah. But so is everything else.
Nicotine in western society isn’t respected, neither is cocaine, neither is meth, neither is heroine, none of these are respected substances they are used like toys to make one feel better without question. Then, when the addiction sinks its teeth in, they are a “disease” and “enemy” something to “Fight”.
But it is not the drugs, you see.
If you go to south america Nicotine is regarded as a ritual to becoming in touch with one’s self, controlling one’s self, and becoming closer to nature. It is used in FAR excess, and to levels far surpassing lethal doses. They respect nicotine.
Cocaine is used in much lower doses with the coca leaves – the 3 leaves of the plant represent the underworld, the living world, and the upper world. Partaking in ingesting the leaf is also ceremony, calming the body, calming the mind, and again, to be respected.
It is when the individual sees these tools as toys that danger begins.
I am sorry for your hard time.
@ijesuschrist, No reason for you to be sorry they were my choices.
In my opinion stimulants and depressants in excess are a serious problem. One doesn’t need stimulants to find one’s self or to learn about self control.
I do agree that the root of drug problems in Western society stems from deeper psychological issues. But the availability of high dose stimulants and depressants is a horrible ill of our society and serves no meaningful end.
I do think that there are drugs that can help strengthen ones human essence. These are strictly natural hallucinogens, “Food of the gods” as Terrence McKenna put it.