DON'T FUCK THE SYSTEM
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When I say fuck the system, I’m talking about really fucking it, penetrating it to the depths of love and making it my bitch.
That’s the name of the game ;)
Humans make and control systems, not the other way around.
We are the system. If we all say fuck the system, the system will change. We shouldn’t try to save ourselves from the system by finding ways around a system which is clearly broken, we should save everyone from the system by bringing change. Remember the 60s!!!
So when we say fuck the system, are we looking for a way out for ourselves
Or do we want it for the 3.5 million US residents (about 1% of the population), including 1.35 million children, who are homeless and 37 million men, women, and children who can’t put food on the table or meet the basic needs of their families.
nah fuck the system, just for the hell of it.
That’s sad. Before HEthens started tapping themselves on the back we were talking about the system. Then a fucker, for example @ijesuschrist wanted to talk about himself and what’s fun, and another fucker agreed with him, because he’s also a HEthen, but a discussion about it is nowhere to be found. :)
You really love showing off, morons.
About the system, no one admitted they’re part of it, this is just another thread for you.
@wacea, Dude the problem is that it is not a just system. It a a vary corrupt, insane and damaging system that is affecting not only our lives, but the lives of all the people on earth. We really need a change, the roots of our system are corrupt, we need to stop that.
Yes, we could say, I am just gonna live by the system and make money and fuck the rest. But I think that first of all, if you live in the System you will have only a limited freedom and also I think that we should do something about it, try to change it.
As Einstein said: “The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything”.
And as I always said: “We need to be too blind to think that the world is fine as it is, and we need to be too selfish to not try to change it at all”
I agree, DON’T FUCK the SYSTEM, at least not in attitude, @wacea, , “Stop hating on your resources, embrace them, work with them, and reach success” I agree, our current level of knowledge, what-we-are-born-with, is because of this flawed system, and though flawed, the decision to advance/change/modify the system instead of scrapping it has resulted in the level of progress we see today. It is ironic when people living under a prosperous system complain about the little things (in terms of the entire system) and from these complaints comes the attitude, fuck it, even though their existence has been dependent on it for years. Its painful to watch how often extremes are used to determine the validity of the whole, like, “All Muslims are terrorists” or “All Christians burn the Koran” or “All Romney supporters hate gays” or “( Random system complaint ) + ( Extreme Example ) = ( Entire system is flawed )”
I like that a lot. I’m going to build on it.
Fuck the system could mean a bunch of different things.
I say–if you have a problem with the system, then live the changes you’d like to see.
“Be the change you wish to see in the world”–I mean really, Ghandi was pretty fucking smart. If every single person who is not currently very powerful within the current system just lived the changes they’d like to see through their actions–well that’s a lot of people potentially. That would be some big change for you revolutionaries. Indirectly fighting the system. I mean come on, you really have to push change in the real world, in communities you actually live in, and work from there, that’s going to inspire change more than anything these days. Policy and legislation does work sometimes, but it’s hoops and mazes and obstacles. Rawr.
It’s dependence we have to turn our backs on. And for many, myself included, that’s very very hard. When you’re dependent on ANYTHING you’re whole life, it’s going to be pretty ingrained into you.
Broken down–if your parents gave you $1000 every month and you used that money to live, and for everything you’ve ever done, since the beginning of your life–a livable amount–and in return all you had to do was (__insert thing you don’t really like doing or believe in here__) you’d probably do it. Now if you got used to doing that all your life, and someday decided you never wanted to do _______ again, it would be hard to lose that income you’d been dependent on, and not only that–you’ve never known the feeling of NOT being dependent on that income.
It’s risky, the unknown. But sometimes, big risks into the unknown can reap large rewards, which is why some of us aim to do so, or have already done so.
But getting the majority to turn their backs on dependence, to say no to that life enabling lifestyle, however unhappy they really might be…they don’t know what it’s like living without that dependence. A lot of people don’t even realize the dependence exists, alas The Cave analogy works well here.
I don’t know where I’m going with this, I just wanted to build off of your Fuck the System meaning different kinds of action/beliefs for different people.
I guess I really like complete individual responsibility…together. If only it was easier to get that message understood.
Work to eradicate unfair impositions and create a truly ‘free’ society where what shall be shall be. Surely a powerful individual has a powerful mind and should posses the level of understanding to see why everyone is and take appropriate action to centre our frequency.
Relentless, remorseless greed.
Even if it the truth is brought to light and the ensuing reality brutality has everyone fight rather than understand, so be it, end our infestation and let the world start over.
Some people are so beat up by this flawed one sided unreality that it takes a miracle to climb out. Should a new born baby surrounded by fear, conflict and poverty really bear the burden of what they were made to become?
The moral fibers are hardcoded by corrupt teachers, doctors, banks, police, even minders are victims, forever pushing this sense of defeat onto each other.
Only in death is there true ultimate peace, lets go to war.
Pretty conformist thread if you ask me.
(and by fuck the system, i mean judicial system)(my pet monkeys been wrighting FTS on walls his whole life, and will probably continue to do so)
But in all seriousness, why conform to a flawed system hopeing to achieve.. when were creating a NEW system almost guaranteed to achieve, right here on the fronlines of human evolution?
Screw the old system. Its obsolete.
Weve got a better one now.
@beyond, @manimal, The pair of you are unbelievably pretentious. Particularly you, ‘Sasho’, if you want your point to be understood, phrase it in a way that makes sense. You don’t have some higher level of thought, you just have too much time on your hands. By all means, express your opinion, but please, stop that subtle bullshit and say what you think for a change. I doubt in person you’d talk in such symbolism. And manimal, damn bro, no need to be such a drama queen all the time (though I do enjoy reading your post’s)
I think he is referring to this:
“We are the system. If we all say fuck the system, the system will change. We shouldn’t try to save ourselves from the system by finding ways around a system which is clearly broken, we should save everyone from the system by bringing change. Remember the 60s!!!”
So if we fuck the system for shits and giggles as the pic you displayed was meant to show, then we are only hurting ourselves. Not sure how serious your pic was though
@hybridext, I’m still searching for the sweet spot of expressing myself about the system without being completely in love with it. The system automatically destroys itself and the more social influence a person has, the more delusions of humanity arise. I always thought I’m straightforward and not subtle, this is new. In person I wouldn’t reply to a comment directed at me when talking about something else, because it’s proven to be useless. Higher level of thought? If I google that I’ll probably find this site. But you’re right, I don’t illuminate my negativity with the bullshit of others.
FUCK THE SYSTEM because it depends heavily on many people losing and few winning due to our dependence on limited resources.
Legalize Hemp to bring the cost of everything down and make the simple act of living a viable option for all not just a luxury. Keep thinking this way of living is justified in any manner!
@beyond, IF you have a problem with me personally leave it in a message man, stop hating just to hate and be “different”. Don’t need to be different by hating… You’re a cool dude, but c’mon man, you’re not doing anything constructive in this discussion.
@tine, If we fuck the system we’re not fucking ourselves, we’re changing ourselves. For me, it would be a fairy land to go down the street one day and see every building completely covered in paint and art. I’d love to see people shutting down free-ways and clogging up subways – just so people have to deal with the change. The anti-mundane.
I am more than well aware that people would be outraged, pissed, and definitely get violent if this were to actually happen, and down a slippery slope we go. People would become segregated – those that believe and those that don’t believe. The problem would continue anew, and nothing would be solved. But hell, it beats talking about the weather, right?
Believing the phrase “Be the change you want to see” is powerful.
But in the context of helping people out, and being nice, and smiling all the time. Its good, there is no bad, but the duration of time this takes to see any dramatic changes in society? I Don’t know – but I would assume decades and decades, and the worst problems would be very fickle about changing.
Perhaps I’m just a bastard that enjoys doing whatever the fuck I want on buildings and public property. Maybe this is the answer – to simply just say fuck it and go paint big pictures of hearts and hugs on the local bank. Maybe its not.
Maybe we can only change slowly. Maybe that is the right thing – that change will take place over many life times.
Crazy thing it is. Crazy thing!
@ijesuschrist, sometimes it is that easy, sometimes it isnt. When you have bills to pay, you cant always just quit a job and try and start something new without certain income. I do things on the side now that i enjoy to make extra cash, but the problem with realizing these things now is that changes take longer than you want them to. So for some (me) its a process not a rash decision, its about making one change at a time. So now is my time of education and learning about the world because i was blind to it for the first 25 years of my life, not caring about my health, societies problems, world problems, being controlled but told you’re free. I was ignorant because i didnt think i was directly affected, but now is a time for change because once you know you have to choose to not change and that is harder than just saying i didnt know. This is why its important to share the things you learn and try and learn and educate yourself on the problems the world faces, because in the end were all effected especially while the world becomes more “global”. Got a little off topic but thats what happens in these discussions.
@wacea, Really.. where can I start. Fuck the system it’s trash and obsolete. Lets gain our “success” but fuck the poor and the starving and the people dying in wars and fuck the environment. Really though fuck the environment lets burn some more gas and throw more of it in the water. Let’s cut down all the damn trees already what’s taking us so long? The US is the best nation in the world so fuck the other countries and lets just launch some atomic bombs on them. The poor are poor because they want to be poor, yea lets tell ourselves that. It’s not because of the unequal opportunities and because of the mega rich hoarding resources. It’s not because they are born into a community that breeds more and more “poor” people. Yeah lets sacrifice the planet and pretend we don’t have all these problems and pretend that we aren’t getting fucked so we can be “happy” achieving a lot of “success”
Money isn’t everything.
There is much to be gained without getting or having a big bank account.
Cheesmo may be useful for education and sustenance but a devotion to gaining “the good life” like the millionaires would probably end in rampant ego.
You are right though, if you truly want wealth and prestige then you do have to bend the rules.
No, I understand completely, I am still struggling a lot with ego, I can relate, “Many a year of hurt, extreme contemplation, excess, unfocused actions, hate, low esteem and a true desire to die kick starts this state, the cross to bear method. ” as I remain there still by the thread of one last childish act, the constant smoking of the sticky goo, and its been really sticky for a loonnng time, but now a new plane of awareness awaits, I can see it, taste it, know how to get there, but there’s a lock on it, the key of which means gaining complete control of myself through the removal of all things opposing it.
What made you, “Now I let go, accept, analyse, adapt, feel, not so much take action as belong” was it a full release of emotion where you allowed yourself to feel as well as analyze?
I see the answer in what you wrote, you replied by defining the state L would have to be-in in order to be the way he is and how this translates to you. L’s state is achievable, the question is, can the individual become aware of this and recognize how.
@ijesuschrist, “Saying fuck the system doesn’t have many better outcomes, but the changes are dramatic, and only when all has “settled” out do we get to see what we have seen. It also is chaotic, and sometimes destructive in nature. To me its much more interesting, and based on the sole idea that “everything will work itself out” makes me rather favor this, just for the pure excitement.
But, alas, I’d rather just go sit in the woods.”
hahaha, were so on the same page.
@hybridext, Haters gonna hate.
Keep in mind that Sasho is a foreigner and keen on the alcohol, and that not everyone thinks like you do. Are you trying to understand him? Give it a shot before you start laying the blame.
And don’t you think it’s more than a little bit ironic that you call someone else a drama queen in such a melodramatic fit of a post?
I don’t like drama, I stay clear of that stuff as much as I can. Other people’s reactions to my stuff is not my responsibility, and frankly I don’t care.
I curse a lot, that’s just an idiomatic factor, has nothing to do with a mood or mindset. I don’t tip-toe around the bush, and I don’t sugarcoat shit. That doesn’t mean drama.
Widen your views, mate.
Oh, and, fuck the system.