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keenan (@keenz)11.01.2011 at 5:21 pm

I am a currently a Sophomore in College wrapping up my General Education courses, and I have recently begun toying with the idea of dropping out. I am unsatisfied with the "learning process" in college. I read the required material, then I regurgitate it on homework & test/quizzes. I realized earlier today that out of the 9 classes I took in my two semesters last year only about 4 of the classes have benefited me in some way(minimally of course). Such as Interpersonal Communication, Lifespan development, and my English courses. Besides these courses I have found the others to be virtually worthless to my future/destiny-what have you. I want to major in Philosophy, but when I visited the Phil department I started reading what I would take away from learning Phil at my school & essentially I would read the works of famous philosophers and interpret(based on the conventional), yet I can learn about any Philosopher virtually for free with the internet, as well if I was free lancing my education I could interpret and give my own meaning to what I read. I believe my own interpretation would be much more beneficial than what the teachers are taught to teach. Debt accumulated, only 12gran so far, will keep me locked in a job trying to pay it off….This does not appeal to me. I decided to go to College on the presumption that I would one day have a Career, and exceptionally benefit financially. However, I no longer desire being tied down to a career, nor do I really desire to be wealthy.. I have been trying to wrap my mind around this in making the best decision for myself. I read the article "Your Worldview Can Set You Free" earlier today, which has reinforced my thoughts; Want my first external opinions to come from you all :)
All the best,
Thank yous all

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Bryan Hellard (@xyver)2 years, 5 months ago ago

Well, I’d say go for it, but you should have a plan before you ditch. At least a little plan. It’ll save you lots of stress as opposed to just dropping everything on a whim.

What will you do? You do have 12k worth of debt, and you’re going to have to pay that off somehow, so are you going to work now? Where? What can you do with what you’ve got?

I’m not saying you shouldnt drop out, if you dont agree with it and dont think that it’ll help you, bombs away! Just make sure you know what to do instead.

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Daniel (@meta)2 years, 5 months ago ago

I would strongly suggest against dropping out. Whether or not you’re happy with what/how you’re learning, a college education is valued much higher than most any other qualification in today’s society. If you leave now then you might as well have just put yourself into debt for nothing. Get your degree, get a job to pay it off, then do what you love. College is a funny thing: it can make you or break you. I also suggest applying for all the scholarships / grants you can because they add up real quick.

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hope (@embracethelight526)2 years, 5 months ago ago

Hey Keenan, i also have messed around with the idea of dropping out for over a year now. i’m a junior in college and it just does nothing for me anymore. i’ve constantly thought about the same things you’ve mentioned. sometimes it really bothers me that i’m letting myself go through something that doesn’t benefit me or make me happy, but unfortunately we live in a society that is based upon things that don’t suit everyone. i guess i’m just one of those people. i’m basically sticking through college for my parents, and though i know it isn’t a way to live your life, i’m so close to being done that if a piece of paper will make them happy… i guess i should go for it. i don’t really want to have a job that is going to choose me over someone else based on what a piece of paper says.. i’m still struggling with the concept of it all. but it’s nice to know i’m not alone. i don’t really have an answer for you, just thought i’d share my side. i hope you figure out what’s best for you and follow your heart. :)

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CosmicLemonade (@cosmiclemonade)2 years, 5 months ago ago

I have toyed with the same ideas, especially after fucking up hardcore (because of apathy and the sense of discontent you expressed) and failing a bunch of classes. But, ultimately, I decided to finish what I started because it felt very important to me to do so. Though, my degree is in jazz performance on the trumpet and the music department is usually a little more open to individual creativity than other departments. I have also recently been thinking of getting an english degree because many professors have recommended it after reading my writing.

My advice in a nutshell would be to trust your instincts and your heart. If you feel very deeply that school offers you nothing, or if you feel attracted to an experience that a department of learning could offer you, act on those feelings. Stay true to your heart. Don’t let your mind delude you into defying your true desires. Hope I helped. I’m still working through these things myself.

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Zachary Bodenweber (@zack)2 years, 5 months ago ago

I have also been toying with the idea of dropping out of school for a while now. I am a Junior in college and I can agree wholeheartedly that many of the classes I take are pointless either in content or in the sense that I can learn anything I want for free online or in books (as you mentioned). For myself, I decided to stay in school, but switch my major to something that is coherent with my passions. My passion is writing and it is my goal to be a published novelist and/or poet. Therefore, I changed my major to English: Creative Writing, because I knew that it would be intellectually and creatively stimulating to me. I often thought about dropping out because I believe I can pursue my dreams without a formal education, but the unfortunate side of this is: 1) There is a reality in this society that we cannot wrestle with. That reality is that the chances of finding a job, let alone a good one that you enjoy, is very slim without a college degree. 2) You may find yourself working 3 jobs at minimum wage that you hate in order to pay off that debt and support yourself. Rather, if you have a college degree, perhaps you may only have to work 1 job to accomplish the same things, leaving you with time to pursue your passions and interests.

My advice would be to change your major to something that you really enjoy. If you enjoy philosophy, keep it there. While you are totally correct that you can learn what they are going to teach you on your own time with free resources, that won’t get you that important piece of paper. It’s dumb, I know, but that is unfortunately the way our society operates and sometimes we have to play with the cards that we are given. However, that doesn’t mean you have to be victim to them.

If your college professors are good, they will allow and encourage you to develop and support your own interpretations of philosophical theory, rather than shoving what they think down your throat. If they are not good, than perhaps you may find it rewarding to teach philosophy one day, as you enjoy the subject and you can allow your students to develop their own interpretations as you wished to. Hope this helps in some way. You are already making incredible steps toward happiness by listening to your heart, as I can tell you are. I still do not have the answers for myself. So let me know what you decide; it may help me.

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Nightowl (@nightowl)2 years, 5 months ago ago

DO IT

“The College Conspiracy”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpZtX32sKVE

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Flynnstone (@flynnstone)2 years, 5 months ago ago

I’ve frequently wondered how classes will prepare me for my life after college as well. I’ve come to the conclusion that I’m learning general background information that my future employers will expect me to know or at least be familiar with without having to look it up. However, remember that college is not only class; it is also a place to easily learn about opportunities to network (if you’re in business) or attend extracirricular presentations, lectures, and panels often led by professors, and universities often attract prominent speakers. While you can buy any professor’s book in the bookstore, you don’t hear them defend their claims and can’t enter into discussion with them in a classroom setting (usually a smaller, upper-level class or in their office hours) if you’re learning from the internet or reading a book on your own time. College is mainly beneficial because it is a place of concentrated exchange of ideas.
Regardless of what you decide, remember that college is more than just 16 hours worth of classes plus 50938473294 pages of reading per week. If you formulate a plan, though, and you can drop out, then do it.I can tell this is what you want to do, and college is not for everyone, even though American culture says it is.

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keenan (@keenz)2 years, 5 months ago ago

Thank you all for your compassionate replies. They are deeply appreciated. The National Inflation Association’s (NIA) video was considerably motivating & insightful – Unsure about how valid all their “facts” are I have yet to research their truth. Although, I have done some research on NIA (they are involved in influencing people to buy stock’s in the companies they suggest and I believe the organization is internally corrupt.

I choose now forth to trust solely my heart, intuition, and rationale.

I am probably going to drop out at the end of the Fall semester. I may reconsider, because who knows what I will learn, discoveries I will make, and so on – over the next two months. I will be following my own inner guide, if you will. I plan to start job hunting within the next week (any job will do for now, since I haven’t worked since life guarding over the Summer) and start living.

Personally, had I not enrolled in College I probably would have spent less time running away from supposed ‘responsibilities’, such as less partying, bullshitting with friends.( hanging with friends is great, especially when deep discussions are involved, but most of the time you’re just avoiding other things, as we are lifelong students )

I have dreams’ that need fulfilling, and I feel it is necessary to wipe the regurgitated school work from my focus, to begin fulfilling them. Peace, Equality, Heaven on Earth are things I desire for this world. Fuck the bullshit.

The possibilities are endless, potential is limitless, and just as nature I and everyone else are meant to flourish.

:-)

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CosmicLemonade (@cosmiclemonade)2 years, 5 months ago ago

I like what your saying man, and I wish the best to you. Have fun doing your thing. :)

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