Drug dealing.

3 years, 1 month ago

Assuming the dealer in question was cautious enough not to get caught, what do you guys think of this?

January 11, 2012 at 11:28 pm

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Profile photo of ELI var namnet ELI var namnet (@manimal) 3 years, 1 month ago ago

If it’s an honest dealer selling clean stuff for a proper price, then that’s cool. Still a fucking dumb thing to do considering the risks and consequences. Not to mention getting involved with the Mafia.

I don’t meddle in others’ business and don’t see why you wish to do so. Let them do what they do, don’t get opinionated about it. They have their lives, you have yours, there’s no sense in judging others.

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Profile photo of jetsetplayboy jetsetplayboy (@jetsetplayboy) 3 years, 1 month ago ago

What exactly are you asking about–the moral issue? I don’t think there’s anything morally wrong with it, so long as the product they’re selling is ‘quality’ or they’re not trying to cheat anyone. There are so many people that do drugs, even though they’re illegal, you can’t really blame people for selling it. Our economy is based off of ‘supply and demand’, isn’t it?

I really do think it would be best for the country as a whole if (some) drugs were legalized–that way we could open new businesses, more jobs would be available, and people wouldn’t get killed or beaten over it like they do now. But then that crosses over into moral territory, “If we allow THIS to be okay, where do we draw the line?” But honestly, people are getting drugs regardless of the fact that it’s illegal, so why not help the economy along the way, and (somewhat) protect the people using them?

…did that get off topic, Ellie? Sorry ’bout that. lol

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Profile photo of West West (@west) 3 years, 1 month ago ago

In my opinion, being a drug dealer is only for people that aren’t capable of holding a minimum wage job. Don’t get me wrong, I know some great people that are drug dealers, but selling drugs is only for people who have messed up their lives and must start again from the very bottom of society.

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Profile photo of TheSkaFish TheSkaFish M (@theskafish) 3 years, 1 month ago ago

@West I think it’s for that very reason that becoming a drug dealer is so attractive to people. Minimum wage sucks along with most jobs in general, and drug dealing offers an escape. If society wants to get rid of drug dealers, one way to do it would be to make the straight-and-narrow life more attractive, ie higher pay, more comfort. The consequences of dealing alone aren’t enough, because obviously there are still drug dealers.

That being said, I am in no way at all recommending anyone to become a drug dealer. It’s just too risky if you ask me.

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Profile photo of Sisyphus Sisyphus (@sisyphus) 3 years, 1 month ago ago

Go for it! It may be a little taboo (especially judging from West’s response) but it’s a great tax free way to get a little extra cash! Getting caught isn’t a problem unless you have a complete lack of common sense.
It makes a great little part time job.

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Profile photo of TheSkaFish TheSkaFish M (@theskafish) 3 years, 1 month ago ago

It’s not just about getting caught by the police. Don’t forget you also have to watch out for other dealers/gangsters, and even your very customers.

And especially for growing weed indoors, there’s quite a bit you have to do to hide the heat given off by such an operation as well as the spike in power you’ll need. If growing interests you, I suggest watching some documentaries on how to do it as stealthily as possible, I’ve seen a few but can’t recall the names.

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Profile photo of  Anonymous (@) 3 years, 1 month ago ago

There’s one guy I know of back home he was a licensed carpenter and he left his job to buy motorcycles and grow dope. He lived in the country and had a huge underground cabin packed with plants and grew all year round. He was making enough to pay for his house and car and then money to store away. He did get paranoid towards the end of his drug dealing career when more and more people started hearing about him. Now I haven’t talked to him in a bit, but he was totally cool dude who was smart as shit with egines and fixing.

I see drug dealing much like the beauty in the eye of the beholder

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Profile photo of  Anonymous (@) 3 years, 1 month ago ago

I remember hearing that if you have a certian amount of mushrooms or E with intent to distrubute it’s the same charge as manslaughter. I’m not fully sure if it’s true but when I hear it from a smart mans mouth I tend to believe it. So as far as I’m concerned there is no way to sell shrooms and be smart hahaha!

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Profile photo of Lizzie Lizzie (@nymzie) 3 years, 1 month ago ago

I am way too paranoid to ever do it myself. It doesn’t help that my mom is a criminal defense attorney and tells me all about her clients and their jail time D: They’re always getting beaten up in jail and they get stuck in there for usually 5 – 20 years, depending on how stupid they are. And they’re always getting beaten up when they’re outside jail, and robbed at gun or knife point, and its just terrifying.

My mom says they’re almost all dumb as rocks. Then again she only knows the ones that get caught, usually multiple times, I’m sure there are smart drug dealers out there too. She also says they’re good people, but then she is their lawyer so… even the ones who are also murderers she spins into being good people. Drug dealing and murder go together a lot.

I don’t think I’ve ever met a dealer. I’ve never even seen drugs, except on TV. Lol I’ve never even been offered drugs. I look too clean.

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Profile photo of Athens Athens (@giraffe) 3 years, 1 month ago ago

We’ve got to do what we’ve got to do. If you are doing a lot of partying and really into that kind of scene, then you’d be a great asset to the community :-) It’s also better to have nice people selling drugs, so although it’s considered a bad act, it can be good for the “nice guy” to get his hands dirty and clean up the sketch a bit. If you’re selling mind opening drugs like MDMA, then I think it’s a great thing to be doing. If you’re considering starting up again I say go for it, it’s difficult to give up ways of making money that we are familiar with. Don’t forget to work on other things too though!

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Profile photo of West West (@west) 3 years, 1 month ago ago

The nice guys are the first ones to get robbed.

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Profile photo of  Anonymous (@) 3 years, 1 month ago ago

In my experience shrooms aren’t bad at all either!;) It’s just the kind of world we live in, if we’re ethically told their bad, their bad lol

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Profile photo of Athens Athens (@giraffe) 3 years, 1 month ago ago

Shrooms are awesome, on so many levels. 4-PO-DMT :-)

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Profile photo of Ellie Ellie M (@tangledupinplaid21) 3 years, 1 month ago ago

I was asking less about the morality of the issue and more about the cost/benefit. I used to deal for shorts amount of time here and there but I was always “getting high on my own supply” at the time and now that I don’t smoke and barely do anything else I thought it would be a good time to think about looking into it again. Not as a full time thing by any means but quick exchanges every once in a while. I live somewhere where basically everything is in high demand with high prices and am from/have connects in California (the land of plentiful) so hmmmm.

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Profile photo of Robyn-Lia Robyn-Lia (@robynlia) 3 years, 1 month ago ago

First off, I’d like to tell West that he’s wrong about his stereotype of drug dealers–they’re not all deadbeats that can’t fit a minimum wage job. A lot of dealers have full-time legit jobs with part time dealing jobs on the side.

A lot of drug dealing is based out of organized crime, so keep that in mind too. It’s to protect themselves and their business. Organized criminals know how to collect money when it’s due, and if you’re a lone warrior in the dealing world, that might not be so easy (unless you just sell upfront).

I’ve never been in the industry, but I’ve seen it at work a few times, and it’s not something I’d divulge into. I’ll let the professionals keep at it, because it’s a profession we’ll need while there’s still supply in demand.

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Profile photo of Em Em (@emily) 3 years, 1 month ago ago

Morally there’s nothing wrong with it (IMO). Cost/benefit…I don’t know what the laws are like out there. If they’re anything like in NY I’d be weary about doing it. I know people that have gotten busted & done a lot of time over drugs. In NY, the majority of busts are all set-ups. Cops corner people & scare them into ratting someone else out to save their own ass from a more brutal sentence–so don’t trust anyone. In NY you can get a felony & do prison time over 5 pills of xanax. The drug laws are insane. That’s my 2 cents :)

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Profile photo of Alex Alex (@alexsell) 3 years, 1 month ago ago

Constitutional speaking drugs should be legal the. He government doesnt have the right to tell us that we can’t. Sure, people would die. They deserve to die of the overdose of drugs, it’s Darwinism. It would help with overpopulation, and getting jobs. If they were legal and taxed by the government they would make a fortune, and they could shut down the DEA saving hundreds of billions of dollars a year.

I think that drug dealing is something I wouldnt do. But it ist inherently evil, it is only bad because its breaking the law. Thats why dealers r often bad people, or carry guns and kill people. Because they have to operate outside the law. The same thing happened with prohibition (when alcohol was illegalized).

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Profile photo of  Anonymous (@) 3 years, 1 month ago ago

Re: cost/benefit

If you’re not smoking yourself, you can probably make actual coin by dealing. Some rules that I’d follow that my “guy” now lives by:

1) Don’t do it at home. Be mobile, even if it’s more hassle.
2) Don’t do less than an 1/8th. You don’t want to be at the beck and call of “gram bums” as we called them (unless they are weekenders who don’t mind paying $15/g for a solo).
3) Don’t deal with anyone you haven’t been personally introduced to, by someone who you know personally and currently deal with.
4) Prepaid cell phone only, talk only (no texts except maybe “Hey, can you swing by tonight?”). If anyone ever says the words: drugs, smoke, marijuana, etc. immediately say “I’m not sure what you mean…” and just ask if they wanted to hang out tonight or not, and set a time.
5) Don’t deal to kids (even teenagers) for both the moral reasons and the personal safety reasons. As soon as Mom finds a bag of grass, even in like a 17 y/o room, they are going to channel their anger towards the dealer if they can get it out of the kid. Assume they will get it out of the kid. Children fear their parents more than grass slingers.
6) Deal with hippies and not gangsters. A country grow op where someone is supporting their own lifestyle is completely different (to me)than organized crime funneling drugs in to your country on the backs of abused laborers in another country. Think of it like fair-trade coffee, lol. Also, you don’t want to be associated with “actual” criminals hahaha.
7) Know the specifics of what you can carry and not have it classified as “intent to distribute” or what crosses the line in to a felony class offense.

I live in Canada, and we have a much more lax attitude towards marijuana even though it is technically illegal. The guy I deal with has been selling, grass only, since he was 14 on a pedal bike. He now owns a legit business (that also has him on the road around town a lot) and does both simultaneously with the client list of first hand acquaintances he has built up over the years. Seems to work well for him!

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Profile photo of  Anonymous (@) 3 years, 1 month ago ago

@Nicholas that sounds awesome for tips hahah kind of hinting around;)
If it’s not legal by the time I get my land, looks like I’m going to be a criminal haaha I’m totally going to grow a minimum of 40 plants in hopes to cash in on anything over 3 pounds. See if I can survive the dry season with that.

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Profile photo of Jay Jay (@jaygran7) 3 years, 1 month ago ago

I don’t think it’s morally right to sell any type of narcotic to people who are suffering—although it may seem otherwise– yes they are sick. That statement isn’t directed toward people who are selling pot, but rather, those who are selling cocaine, heroin, or any other type of highly addictive drug without the thought that they are harming others.

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Profile photo of Ellie Ellie M (@tangledupinplaid21) 3 years, 1 month ago ago

Jay, I’m with you on that one. I have seen people do countless unthinkable things to each other over oxycontin and I want no part of it. I’m talking more about weed here, possibly shrooms, and maybe mdma.

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Profile photo of Alex Alex (@hollowinfinity) 3 years, 1 month ago ago

Getting caught with enough hallucinogens is Conspiracy to Overthrow the Government.

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Profile photo of Em Em (@emily) 3 years, 1 month ago ago

Great advice Nicholas :) Sounds awesome Kirk! And Jay, I completely agree ;)

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Profile photo of  Anonymous (@) 3 years, 1 month ago ago

I believe anything alex says, and I think em is totally AWESOME

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Profile photo of Ellie Ellie M (@tangledupinplaid21) 3 years, 1 month ago ago

Alex, I find that not very hard to believe at all… Spreading tools that help you question everything you know? Unacceptable!

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