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It’s not just about getting caught by the police. Don’t forget you also have to watch out for other dealers/gangsters, and even your very customers.
And especially for growing weed indoors, there’s quite a bit you have to do to hide the heat given off by such an operation as well as the spike in power you’ll need. If growing interests you, I suggest watching some documentaries on how to do it as stealthily as possible, I’ve seen a few but can’t recall the names.
Constitutional speaking drugs should be legal the. He government doesnt have the right to tell us that we can’t. Sure, people would die. They deserve to die of the overdose of drugs, it’s Darwinism. It would help with overpopulation, and getting jobs. If they were legal and taxed by the government they would make a fortune, and they could shut down the DEA saving hundreds of billions of dollars a year.
I think that drug dealing is something I wouldnt do. But it ist inherently evil, it is only bad because its breaking the law. Thats why dealers r often bad people, or carry guns and kill people. Because they have to operate outside the law. The same thing happened with prohibition (when alcohol was illegalized).
There’s one guy I know of back home he was a licensed carpenter and he left his job to buy motorcycles and grow dope. He lived in the country and had a huge underground cabin packed with plants and grew all year round. He was making enough to pay for his house and car and then money to store away. He did get paranoid towards the end of his drug dealing career when more and more people started hearing about him. Now I haven’t talked to him in a bit, but he was totally cool dude who was smart as shit with egines and fixing.
I see drug dealing much like the beauty in the eye of the beholder
If you’re not smoking yourself, you can probably make actual coin by dealing. Some rules that I’d follow that my “guy” now lives by:
1) Don’t do it at home. Be mobile, even if it’s more hassle.
2) Don’t do less than an 1/8th. You don’t want to be at the beck and call of “gram bums” as we called them (unless they are weekenders who don’t mind paying $15/g for a solo).
3) Don’t deal with anyone you haven’t been personally introduced to, by someone who you know personally and currently deal with.
4) Prepaid cell phone only, talk only (no texts except maybe “Hey, can you swing by tonight?”). If anyone ever says the words: drugs, smoke, marijuana, etc. immediately say “I’m not sure what you mean…” and just ask if they wanted to hang out tonight or not, and set a time.
5) Don’t deal to kids (even teenagers) for both the moral reasons and the personal safety reasons. As soon as Mom finds a bag of grass, even in like a 17 y/o room, they are going to channel their anger towards the dealer if they can get it out of the kid. Assume they will get it out of the kid. Children fear their parents more than grass slingers.
6) Deal with hippies and not gangsters. A country grow op where someone is supporting their own lifestyle is completely different (to me)than organized crime funneling drugs in to your country on the backs of abused laborers in another country. Think of it like fair-trade coffee, lol. Also, you don’t want to be associated with “actual” criminals hahaha.
7) Know the specifics of what you can carry and not have it classified as “intent to distribute” or what crosses the line in to a felony class offense.
I live in Canada, and we have a much more lax attitude towards marijuana even though it is technically illegal. The guy I deal with has been selling, grass only, since he was 14 on a pedal bike. He now owns a legit business (that also has him on the road around town a lot) and does both simultaneously with the client list of first hand acquaintances he has built up over the years. Seems to work well for him!
I remember hearing that if you have a certian amount of mushrooms or E with intent to distrubute it’s the same charge as manslaughter. I’m not fully sure if it’s true but when I hear it from a smart mans mouth I tend to believe it. So as far as I’m concerned there is no way to sell shrooms and be smart hahaha!
@Nicholas that sounds awesome for tips hahah kind of hinting around;)
If it’s not legal by the time I get my land, looks like I’m going to be a criminal haaha I’m totally going to grow a minimum of 40 plants in hopes to cash in on anything over 3 pounds. See if I can survive the dry season with that.
I am way too paranoid to ever do it myself. It doesn’t help that my mom is a criminal defense attorney and tells me all about her clients and their jail time D: They’re always getting beaten up in jail and they get stuck in there for usually 5 – 20 years, depending on how stupid they are. And they’re always getting beaten up when they’re outside jail, and robbed at gun or knife point, and its just terrifying.
My mom says they’re almost all dumb as rocks. Then again she only knows the ones that get caught, usually multiple times, I’m sure there are smart drug dealers out there too. She also says they’re good people, but then she is their lawyer so… even the ones who are also murderers she spins into being good people. Drug dealing and murder go together a lot.
I don’t think I’ve ever met a dealer. I’ve never even seen drugs, except on TV. Lol I’ve never even been offered drugs. I look too clean.
I don’t think it’s morally right to sell any type of narcotic to people who are suffering—although it may seem otherwise– yes they are sick. That statement isn’t directed toward people who are selling pot, but rather, those who are selling cocaine, heroin, or any other type of highly addictive drug without the thought that they are harming others.
I have nothing to say but this:
Become intimately familiar with the laws in your area. If you are transporting, know the laws in every state along the way. If you can’t know all the laws yourself, find yourself a damn good (discreet) lawyer or law adviser. If shit goes wrong, you do not want to be unaware of your rights.
We’ve got to do what we’ve got to do. If you are doing a lot of partying and really into that kind of scene, then you’d be a great asset to the community :-) It’s also better to have nice people selling drugs, so although it’s considered a bad act, it can be good for the “nice guy” to get his hands dirty and clean up the sketch a bit. If you’re selling mind opening drugs like MDMA, then I think it’s a great thing to be doing. If you’re considering starting up again I say go for it, it’s difficult to give up ways of making money that we are familiar with. Don’t forget to work on other things too though!
Jay, I’m with you on that one. I have seen people do countless unthinkable things to each other over oxycontin and I want no part of it. I’m talking more about weed here, possibly shrooms, and maybe mdma.
Well you know I don’t believe the moral implications can be ignored. Not if we want to make a better society for our kids then we were handed. So to me, there are two aspects to it that really matter. What are you selling, and who are you selling it to? If you are selling pot, perhaps shrooms or LSD, well that is a bit different from selling meth, crack, heroin to name a few. Adult people have messed up their lives on pot, but the majority do not, and eventually give it up at some point. Nobody is going to die from pot, unless they toke and drive and that is on their own head. But hard drugs kill, they cause an increase in crime and violence as crack heads do whatever they ‘have to do’ in order to get a fix. And then what about the audience… are we talking adults that know fully the repercussions of their actions or not? When thinking of yourself, if jail time and the shame it would bring to your family and the idea that you might never be able to get a ‘regular’ job again is ok with you, then that is your choice and only you can weigh those factors. Depending on your situation and your family, friends, etc., the personal risk might not seem that bad. But do consider the moral implications even if it is uncomfortable. You have to live with yourself for a long time, so do evaluate what you can actually live with.
If it’s an honest dealer selling clean stuff for a proper price, then that’s cool. Still a fucking dumb thing to do considering the risks and consequences. Not to mention getting involved with the Mafia.
I don’t meddle in others’ business and don’t see why you wish to do so. Let them do what they do, don’t get opinionated about it. They have their lives, you have yours, there’s no sense in judging others.
I know people don’t like bumping old threads but I feel this is important:
I just found out a friend of mine is in quite a bit of trouble over a lot of acid and shrooms right now, I don’t want to say all is lost but he’s going to have an extremely tough time getting out of this situation to say the least, since the law looks more favorably on violent crime than on the amount of stuff he had. He was pretty cautious, professionally so, but was ratted out by a lower person in his organization.
Whatever you decide to do PLEASE be as careful as possible, the bigger one gets, the more extremely cautious you have to be and “careful enough not to get caught” changes meanings drastically. People who had no reason to fuck you over before will get one if the authorities get to them first, not to mention the usual jealousy, greed, etc.
What exactly are you asking about–the moral issue? I don’t think there’s anything morally wrong with it, so long as the product they’re selling is ‘quality’ or they’re not trying to cheat anyone. There are so many people that do drugs, even though they’re illegal, you can’t really blame people for selling it. Our economy is based off of ‘supply and demand’, isn’t it?
I really do think it would be best for the country as a whole if (some) drugs were legalized–that way we could open new businesses, more jobs would be available, and people wouldn’t get killed or beaten over it like they do now. But then that crosses over into moral territory, “If we allow THIS to be okay, where do we draw the line?” But honestly, people are getting drugs regardless of the fact that it’s illegal, so why not help the economy along the way, and (somewhat) protect the people using them?
…did that get off topic, Ellie? Sorry ’bout that. lol