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Jax (@gypsieskiess)    2 years, 6 months ago

So, there’s fire , air, water, earth.. throw wood in there if you want to . these are the basic elements of life. Ive been researching and I came to found that the Mayans predicted eras of life. each era was ruled by a different element. apparently in DEC 2012 we are transitioning into the new element of ether. Ive heard ether is like the components of our being, our atmosphere or essence or something.. but i cant quite grasp exactly what this ether element is… does anyone have a description?

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Alex (@hollowinfinity)2 years, 6 months ago ago

It’s the dodecahedron

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SpiralOut (@spiralout1)2 years, 6 months ago ago

I don’t know much but I know there are two types, theres the archaic ether, which might actually be spelt aether, and it’s what aristotle said the 5th element was. It’s where the planets and stars rested. It was the space in between us that light travelled through. I think it was their explanation for the substance of light. Then there’s another aether, or ether, and it’s more of a spiritual definition. I’ve heard someone use it when explaining out of body experiences. Like it’s a type of plane you can travel to

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Alex (@hollowinfinity)2 years, 6 months ago ago

http://www.spiritofmaat.com/archive/jan4/williams.htm

I’ve also always thought of ether as all that ‘empty’ space around us. A radio signal has to travel some way right? It uses the ether. I wonder actually if the ether is a force in itself. Because what exactly IS pushing these radio waves forward? What moves light?
So nowadays I assume our ether is kind of jammed up. Radio signals/satellite signals going every which way.

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Alex (@hollowinfinity)2 years, 6 months ago ago

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platonic_solid

also on the wikipedia page for platonic solid, they have dodecahedron listen as “Ether or Quintessence /Universe” So maybe Ether=Universe. The force that connects all things?

quin·tes·sence/kwinˈtesəns/
Noun:

The most perfect or typical example of a quality or class: “the quintessence of professionalism”.

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Ray Butler (@trek79)2 years, 6 months ago ago

When I hear ether I think of ethanol, it is a spirit, a flamable one that you mix with petrol, dilute it so you have more fuel. It is a product of fermentation of vegetation, usually sugar or potato, but can potentially be derived from any organic matter. Ether is also used in the production of certain illegal drugs. That is the gas relative of ethanol.

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Jax (@gypsieskiess)2 years, 6 months ago ago

the space between.. nice. yeah i bet theres lot of radio waves taking up room. do you think we can telepathicly communicate our brain waves threw the ether , but it gets jumbled and lost on its way to the destination since its so jam packed with pollution and technology?

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Alex (@hollowinfinity)2 years, 6 months ago ago

@Jax. I have never thought of that possibility. It would make sense with our continuing disconnection from nature. Maybe we lived the ether before, and our thoughts could stretch out to other stars, but now with artificial light, radios, satellites, maybe we are more limited than we think. Maybe we are forced to think more ‘locally’ now, due to a massive jam of information/whatever in our ether.

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Ray Butler (@trek79)2 years, 6 months ago ago

I feel you guys are looking into a metaphysical and/or philosophical and/or theoretical element. If you think about the cycles, one leads, or is related, to the next. So what is the one we are at?
Earth becomes wood becomes ether becomes fire becomes air becomes water which returns to earth.

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Alex (@hollowinfinity)2 years, 6 months ago ago

@Ray, We’d have to go through the ‘void’ first. I believe we start with the ‘void’ or sphere. Perfect shape, infinite sides, infinite possibilities. If thats the case, I would imagine we’d be going backwards before we got back to ‘void’ status.
It’s interesting because fire is the most ‘basic’ and water is the most ‘complex’
So it goes: Fire, Earth, Air, Ether, Water, Void.
If it is a cycle how do we connect the void, back to the fire? Or go from most complex, to most basic?

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Ray Butler (@trek79)2 years, 6 months ago ago

Because the most complex sees the appeal of the basic.

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Alex (@hollowinfinity)2 years, 6 months ago ago

That sir, was a profound statement..and the missing piece i was looking for. I always just KNEW that void was perfect, and felt it was the source of everything, but how to go from perfect/most complex to simply basic eluded me. That makes sense though, if you were the most complex thing ever, you would find the most basic thing most appealing.
Thanks ray.

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Ray Butler (@trek79)2 years, 6 months ago ago

;) If you think about it, the more complicated our lives get, the more we yearn for those simpler times, it makes perfect sense.

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bruce (@lonebear)2 years, 6 months ago ago

@Jax: I assume you are referring to the Fifth Sun popularized by Carlos Barrios? If so, the Mayan concept of ether is more allegorical than what 19th century researchers called “ether.” The Maya associate elements with the Suns (their concept of a quanta of civilization) to indicate the overall behavior of society and environment: Earth (solid, fixed, rigid, unchanging beliefs), Water (liquid, transitioning, flowing, malleable), Air (gas, dynamic, open, spiritual) and Fire (plasma, volatile, combative).

The Mayan concept of ether, as explained to me by an elderly Mayan gentlemen on a very bumpy 4-hour bus ride to Tulum some years ago, is associated with the last of the “directions”, what conventional science would call “infinity.”

Most ancient civilizations recognize only 6 directions: north, south, east, west, up and down. The Maya were unique in having two more: center (nothing) and celestial (everything), analogous to zero and infinity in math. As a result, they ended up with TWO systems of measurement, one where you start with nothing, and build up (our typical system of measure), and another where you start with everything, and excavate down. Sort of the difference between building a piece of artwork from parts and sculpting a block of stone.

It is their contention that the first 4 Suns have built the physical world from zero to full, so the 5th Sun will start with the full, “etheric” condition and start sculpting or refining mankind, out of a Universal block of stone.

If you consider this as a spiritual apprehension, then the 5th Sun marks the start of access to a Universal consciousness, to which mankind will sculpt and refine to his purpose and place in the larger scheme of things over the next 4 Suns.

And they do not have a single ether, either. It has energetic states analogous to the physical states of matter, but are ordered in the opposite direction: heat ether (fire), light ether (air), fluidic ether (water) and firm ether (earth). It is like running a circle: 0-180 for the material elements, then 180 back to 0 for the etheric elements.

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ELI var namnet (@manimal)2 years, 6 months ago ago

Ether is a drug, in the past it was used to put people to sleep for surgery. Using it can be a very fun experience, but it’s very hard to walk or even think. Also, if you’re in a videogame it restores your magic power.

Jokes aside, ether is high chi or “fa.”

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Jax (@gypsieskiess)2 years, 6 months ago ago

awesome, thanks guys this really helps

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