Feminism: Shaving legs.
@paolavecuriosidad, No one will ever be glad when you’re doing your own thing, unless they too are liberated to do their own thing. It does hurt to be looked upon as some beast tarzan lady but its really your prerogative. It’s also your prerogative to act seductive for your own reasons and shaving your legs doesn’t make you an object. You don’t have any control whether you’re objectified or not. As far as make up, if you eat super healthy and exercise I bet you won’t feel the need to wear it. Healthy skin and eyes are powerfully elegant. And if someone screams at you in public to shave your legs say something like “RAPE YOURSELF”
@anjelica, what a strong response. you’re amazing
@paolavecuriosidad, Body hair, from an evolutionary standpoint, is due to colder climates, you find people who come from regions that are predominantly warm have less body hair, like Africans.
It is also suggested that early history of man had two hominids, that were closely enough related (common ancestor) to interbreed. That there were these Neanderthal types in Europe and the Sapien types from Africa, and they cross bred to form modern man.
Neanderthals being from the cold north were hairy while the sapiens from tropical regions were hairless, they created offspring that had strengths from both species, but now humans have a range of hairiness from person to person.
Socially, hair has been looked at as both a masculine trait and an uncomfortable reminder of our prehistoric origins, that we have evolved from animals. Certain religions do not like this reminder to be so obvious, hence the cultural trends. If you look at the beard, in some cases it is seen as a sign of strength, dignity, wisdom, but in other cases seen as barbaric, unclean and lower class.
So I believe the beard is the last remaining front for humanity (religions) to hide the fact we are products of evolution. ;)
@paolavecuriosidad, You never answered my question.
From an evolutionary stand point, I think shaven legs are similar to blonde hair and blue eyes, it shows youth.
Am I really the only one here who thinks a woman with a mustache, hairy legs or hairy armpits unattractive?
@xyver, youre right i didnt. my ultimate goal is to be equal. simple enough
@moonglade no absolutely not just read through the comments. we all have our opinions about it!
@trek79, I loved those two star treks videos you posted haha
@paolavecuriosidad, “Alright, so being a feminist, it’s not necessarily easy in this country.”
-It’s not supposed to be. And if you really believe want something, it shouldn’t even matter how “easy” it is.
“As an individual, I live by what I believe in, and I do not try to push my beliefs unto others.”
-So what’s the point of this post? Contradiction? Not hating, it’s only natural to want to be heard and see if you can get people on your side.
“I don’t shave my legs, despite the fact that I’m a woman.”
-See this is a strange thing to say. Where’s the law that says women should shave their legs? Why even bring it up like that?
“I feel like it’s unnecessary, seeing as i wouldn’t expect a man to shave his legs. in my eyes, a woman shaving her legs is purely for pleasure purposes: women are supposed to be soft, supple, sexy, aesthetically appealing, (for the pleasure of any eyes that lay on them, men OR women).”
-Yes, it is unnecessary. Why are you making such a big deal of it?
“And i don’t think that’s my goal as a woman on this planet!”
-Then don’t. Do what you want. Problem solved.
“the reason i speak so much about it is i constantly get a handful of men, MEN, who will speak with me and say “shave your legs”.”
-Whoa whoa whoa, hold your horses. Those are not men, they’re boys who pretend to be men. It is an insult to our kind that you confuse us with THOSE.
“Get the fuck out of my face you misogynist bastard.”
-Seriously? There’s nothing misogynist about it. A lot of people like shaved legs, doesn’t mean they’re misogynists or anything like it.
Don’t be blinded by that rubbish. You’re better than that.
“A guy told me it was not hygienic, and thank you for the health lesson babe but, I shower daily.”
-Showering daily is unhygienic, because it fucks up your skin and makes it nasty. Shaving isn’t very hygienic either. If our bodies in their natural state were unhygienic we wouldn’t have survived.
“Women seem to not like it either as they say well that’s cool but i’m gonna keep shaving, and that’s fine, but the women i meet aren’t as passionate about feminism as i am.”
-The women I meet aren’t as passionate about islamist fascism as I am.
“all i have to ask is, why does it matter to so many people?”
-Why does it matter so much to you?
“why cant i just do my own thing?”
-Because you let other people’s disapproval and opinions of you determine your actions. Your choice.
I am neither misogynist nor chauvinist or anything like that. But seriously, fuck feminism. It’s just a hateful rage campaign. It’s not about equality, it’s about gaining privilege and advantage.
There used to be a healthy women’s lib movement. Now there’s a bunch of flaming feminists stinking up the place and giving the real freedom and equality fighters a bad reputation. Because passive bystanders can’t tell the difference.
Feminism causes more misogyny than anything else.
And it’s so stupid.
That’s the problem with most women. Too much groupthink, no action, no taking what’s yours. It’s always we, we, we. Always gotta check with the others for approval, always gotta rely on eachother.
Snap out of it. You’re better than that.
I love women, and I love freedom. But I detest feminism. Because it’s a religion of hatred, bigotry and lies.
@manimal, i like the points you bring up. i dont like being zealous about this kind of thing, but i can be. thanks for your input
@paolavecuriosidad, It’s a very ironic situation.
One side yelling at you to shave your legs.
Another side yelling at you to get mad about it and fight.
Scylla and Carybdis. Trying to draw you in.
And so you will inspire others. Showing them what freedom is really about.
You are not just your gender. Not just your species. Not just your beliefs.
@paolavecuriosidad, I’ve seen the long term effects of shaving through my mom and my sister and the hair on their legs is really thick. They’re legs never get really smooth again even right after they shave. I personally don’t want that to happen. I stopped while I was ahead. And I may wax them every once in a while but I would much rather my leg hair stay soft. :)
@paolavecuriosidad, I have a saying that no one understands but me “As morality grows, love is diminished”
I say to people on a wide range of topics; hating those who hate is still hate, you are falling into the same trap they are in.
If your not gonna shave your legs you might as well not shave anything at all and just let everything grow. Organic baby!
I think there is a balance to be achieved… shaving legs for women is on par with men working out their chest, right? There is no real benefit to either party except the exposure to the opposite (or same for… ya know) sex.
But you can go down this road and eventually deodorant, and other general hygiene will come into question. IF you’re not going to shave your legs, why are you going to wear deodorant? Granted, if you wear pants nobody knows if you shaved your legs or not…
I mean whats the point of wiping your ass, really? Its to appeal to others, right? I mean on some level you probably don’t want to put people into agony with stench, but really its mainly to be ‘presentable and clean’.
Why do we clean our house and vacuum? Why comb and brush your hair? Why clean your face? Why work out the upper body? Why work out your butt?
I think its healthy to have a balance. Its good to REALIZE, ACCEPT, and ADMIT that you are doing some things purely for the acceptance and attention of others – doing it blindly as if its ‘correct’ or ‘morally the right thing to do’ is to me, foolish.
If you want to shave your legs (or men, work out your upper body) Admit you’re superficial and get on with life :).
@paolavecuriosidad, “Women seem to not like it either as they say well that’s cool but i’m gonna keep shaving, and that’s fine, but the women i meet aren’t as passionate about feminism as i am.”
Real Feminism doesn’t deal with body hair. Here’s your problem, if it really doesn’t bother you, shouldn’t it be understood that you ignore criticism? I don’t think this post is about Feminism at all. I think it’s about insecurity.
So I have this perspective here, feel me out on this and comment your thoughts:
Women are the more beautiful gender of our species. The first known art in history was a sculpture dating back to 3000BC times of a woman’s curvy body and full breasts (naturally, humans understand fertility=beauty). Don’t get me wrong, men can certainly be beautiful, but typically they are so compelled by the inner and outer beauty of women that they choose to express themselves in a “masculine” manner; the balance of feminine beauty is matched by the masculinity of man.
That said, embrace your womanhood! Express your natural beauty! The only form of societal conformity that is acceptable to me is when a woman meets the beauty standards because doing so is (A) as old as civilization and (B) truly gives you a happy healthy self-identity. Sure society says shave my legs, wear mascara and dress in style…and I do so because I feel gorgeous when I do! Superficial? Not as long as you don’t completely depend on this as a sole means of confidence. Feel beautiful in a nice dress, but also in sweats; the only difference would be the attention you receive, which really wouldn’t matter if you were totally self confident.
My viewpoint is essentially Confucian. Confucius said to “play your role, and play it well”. Women are dazzling creatures by nature- so be it! Use modern technology (razors, a little make-up, fashion) to your benefit in playing up your beauty role.
PS- Moderation of course. Fake boobies? Nah, B.
What’s actually attractive in people is being an example of loving themselves however they are.
To shave or not to shave. That is the question. Societal pressure plays a big role in how we choose to take care of our body; it’s the classic double standard at play here. Men can get away with being hairy, though let’s not forget a shaved face is often preferred if faced with job opportunities. Being a woman depends on what you want it to mean. I don’t think you necessarily have to be donned with the “parts” to identify with a gender, nor do I think it’s absolutely essential to shave to be a woman. I dig when my legs are hairy. I also like them when they’re shaven!
I feel it’s good for me to show that side of myself to others, to be comfortable in my own skin. It also helps eliminate some of the douche bags I interact with.
@agapeinflux, that would be an awesome way to weed out superficial assholes.
@agapeinflux, There is no double standard. Men are not expected to shave their legs, but they are also expected to do many things women are not.
@priapus, I don’t mean double standard towards shaving legs specificially, but moreso about keeping body hair. as men don’t have to shave everything like women do, or are at least pressured to by a silly system.
Shaving your back must be really really hard.
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