hey all, Tine just asked me in his http://www.highexistence.com/discussions/topic/possesion/ thread to make a sort of guide to astral projection detailing with the process of doing so and techniques that help with it.
quick note before I begin: this is a process that requires full submission and dedication, if you aren’t willng to do so, you may end up unsatisfied with the results you get. also keep an "astral journal" so after each session, write down how everything that happened durin these trips inward and outward. it’s a good practice
so here goes.
1.) the 2 most crucial parts of the astral projection eperience is that you allow yourself to enter a deep meditative trance and have the energy o sustain an astral projection, the latter of which can be achieved by the raising of the kundalini, choosing to astral project during a time of the day that you are fully awake, aware and energized. this is the foundation, if one of the two are missing, the chances of a conscious astral projection become rather low.
2.) after you’ve raised your energy and entered the state of relaxation you must take great care in not moving, even the slightest twitch of the finger is enough to make you leave that hypnotic state you’d been working toward entering. I find that internally chanting affirmative mantras e.g. "my focus will be sharper than obsidian" helps you stay grounded in this state, as well as keeping other thoughts at bay, and once you feel you can let your mind be at ease, you can now begin step 3
3.) for your protection in the astral plane, picture yourself sheathed in a radiant, white light that emanates from within, so that any entities interested in your physical body may no access it
4.) you must begin to "feel" your astral body and accept that it is separate from your physical one, though it rests inside of you. at this point, you can begin to remove your astral body, which is done in a few ways
a. you can try to make your astral body float out, which takes practice but is arguably the quickest way to get out
b. there is the "astral rope" trick, where you imagine that a roe hangs over your body, just in (astral) arms reach, you now imagine your astral arms reaching out and grabbing said rope, climbing hand over hand, slowly hauling your astral self out
c. rolling out. as stated you ierally roll out of your body, slowly at first, making sure you are calm and relaxed, which is to be said for all exiting techniques, as the strain you put on yourself to get out can lead to frustrations that will quickly kick you out of your trance.
d. imagine that your astral body is slowly ballooning in size, until it is simply too "big" to be contained by your physical body, at which point you shift in either direction until you are no longer attached, at which point you can shrink your astral body accordingly.
e. the possibilities to exiting your body are only limited to your imagination, so if you fin something else that works for you, that isn’t one of these 4, that’s great and I’d love to hear your methods.
5.) at this point, you want to stay "in your room" and begin looking around, do you see clearly, is eveything foggy and somewhat indistinct to you? if so begin focusing on clearing your astral vision, again slowly, allowing yourself the time so that you stay relaxed. once you feel things have cleared up for you, begin looking at your physical body, as a sort of check that you are completely out, and not hanging on by a pinky, next you should check to see if you have remembered to keep yourself by the white light, if not, do so now, it IS important. that means both your astral and physical bodies
6.) begin exploring this room now for changes, are there things there that weren’t before? are there things missing? are there any entities in there with you? if so, do not interact with them at this point as it is hard to judge intent if you are just starting out.
7.) ifyou have just started astral projection now or recently, this is probably a good place to stop, return to your physical body and reflect on the experience.
a. what worked?
b. what didn’t work?
c. what do you need to work on next time?
d. and most imprtantly, how did you feel?
so you’ve been practicing astral projection pretty consistently now for about 2 months, or about 50 times, you’ve probably hit a few rough patches where something goes wrong or doesn’t go at all.
common "slip ups” include
a. you forgot to protect yourself in a white light and got snapped back into your physical body in response to a disturbance
b. you rushed it…nuff said, you’ll know when this happens
c. you ended up falling asleep and began dreaming instead
d. (which is the proverbial "doozy") you got WAY too overzealous in your belief of your abilities to do so, so you may have skipped steps or half assed them due to impatience
remember, even seasoned astral projectors fall into these mistakes from time to time, but you must follow the process for the good of your experience, as a rule, you should probably expect to to spend ~ an hour doing preparation for the actual astral projection, including, 30 minutes of meditative trance/self hypnosis, 15 minutes to clear your thoughts, and another 15 for gathering your energy from within to power this. and finally that white light of protection
^ that is your day’s serving of fruits and vegetables, don’t skimp on it
so, back to the point, now that you’ve become acquainted with the process of bringing yourself into a deep trance, separating from your physical body, clearing your vision so that you can see well and you’ve probably made the bold step out into the astral world
1.) traveling to other places. you may already be aware of this by this point, but ther are two ways to travel in the astral plane. the slow way, and the fast way, the slow way being just flying there at a seed of your choosing, or instant travel. but the only stipulations of these things is that
a. you go to a place you know, e.g. your school
b. you have permission to go there, so no inappropriate spying or going to restricted areas, the same rules apply in the astral plane .
and not to beat a dead horse, but as you travel, be mindful of your relaxatio, don’t overexert yourself if you don’t have to, this might trigger that "snapback reflex", but going on…
2.) (will add to this later, I’ve outlined the basics above, feel free to ask clarifying questions, which I will try to answer to the best of my knowledge but otherwise there will be more)
the dream catcher discussion and this one should be fused now.. somehow. read what that guy had to say about the importance of dream catchers for AP. sounds like a good plan. the thread and the net.
You my friend have totally been there! I realized I should have been posting on this thread instead I ended up expanding into Astral Travel topic from the dream catcher topic.
The best if flying with birds over a sunset:)
I just want to share an experience and see if you/anyone have had an equivalent?
First foremost I explored the artistic planes, sound, music, voice…found how they fused together and how you manifest these into your dreams. Or you have the ability to pull dream creations now into the real world. Which blurs the line now. In Astral travelling it’s like bringing snippets of reality state…where you test your control of your whereabouts, motorskills. I think the main difference a regular dream seems like it’s naturally unfolding and a astral travel dream feels like you travel where you want in real time which is only bound in destination by your established comfort zone.
You can do a test like monotonous things a regular dream wouldn’t let you do. Fly up, fly down. Do it six times for no reason. etc. Then thats like the official proof you are in astral plane now.
The weirder ones are like I will test myself, by literally falling over…but I will try not to land on my face and hit the ground.
Then you do it again from the top of a building
The first time you do….then you do it again. But then you try to float 1inch off the ground lying forwards. Then if you do it you realize. Wait…this is not a regular dream.
You will basically know that it feels really different. And your almost conscious of your consciousness. Like you can hear yourself narrate what will happen next. Then it happens. It can be startling. Then you think you are awake or sleep walking but you’re not.
This is weird for me because..and not..but in the sense that I have never talked to anyone about this topic to the amount that you have just stated I feel this kindredness. Flight at the speed of freewill of thought.
Like hey I was in that country too it’s awesome. Wait what about customs and passports? Oh yeah! That’s just an imaginary line us humans have created go wherever you want! But yes it’s kinda a galactic country with no exact google maps location as of yet.
It gets really interesting the more you go and get better at it:)
wow man that’s awesome, I’d love to compare AP notes and share experiences with you some time. it’s nice to see that there are people I could talk to about this practice, as I know no one else in my town that does this, who I could connect with about that
definitely continue expanding you astral horizons man, shoot, we may meet eachother out there one day
@fyrirrek and @ uncle brandon
when reading this discription of F i am sure i have been doing this in certain dreams for years, infact it sounds so familiar. is it like when you are in a dream and you are walking next to someone on a path, and then you start to run and whoosh up you go, you can fly, then you swwoop around the persons head, and everything becomes super clear, like the details of the plants and the rocks and the ground are crystal clear, and you swoop up and swan dive down, and for me i say ‘now swim your arms’ and if i swim them to the right i turn to the right, i can control my direction, like in the water but more free. so free. like you said flight at the speed of freewill of thought.
is this what you are talking about or is this only a lucid dream….
it can get pretty weird trying to differentiate an AP and a lucid dream because of how similar they are, the major difference is that though both deal with altered states of consciousness and control over it to some degree, in lucid dreams you are asleep when you are consciously astral projecting you are and must be awake, that said, the flying i those certain dreams you have can serve as “practice” for flyig in the astral plane when you go there.
@mindlessfreak30 I’d say that lately I’ve been more about noticing energy shifts and such…really interesting stuff
@blankey possibly, I’e never tried it though, so I can only suggest seeing for yourself once the opportunity arises but I’d say as a rule of thumb, you need to be awake and fully conscious otherwise the astral projection loses it’s control, potentially
I’ve been looking for some decent advice on this type of stuff. Thanks man, great post!
I have a question though, about the entities. Say I leave my body and there is an entity in my room with me. Will he acknowledge me? Or will I have to acknowledge him first? I’ve heard stories about people having trouble with demons or bad spirits and I want to be able to know how to handle that. Have you ever encountered a bad spirit yourself? If so, how did that go? Just wanna be prepared before I step into another world.
@hlalhabattu, So last night I laid down and meditated for about 20 or so minutes. I then entered that stage of where my body feels like it is vibrating and there was an intense energy flowing through my body. I could feel my astral body trying to project and yet I got too scared and my heart starting pumping fast and then the energy feeling went away.
Any tips on maintaining relaxation and finally letting go of your body?
@fyrirrek, I’ve had experiences like that in dreams where the dream is naturally flowing then something happens that I don’t like so I “rewind” to the start and keep playing out the same thing. But for some reason my consciousness hasn’t taken over yet and made me realize that I am dreaming I just wake up the next morning like “damn, that was a dream”. How do you think that I could get myself to start realizing that I am dreaming instead of the dream just continuing?
@cambam, I haven’t personally encountered any entities myself, but it’s to my understanding they are kind of a curious, neutral force. while some ma wish to interact with you in some way, others may pay you no mind. as a precaution, however, I always encase my physical and astral body in a protective field of white light, that repels anything that tries to interact with you
@blankey, it’s not a particularly hard process, it just requires a lot of patience and willpower. Id say to start out, try to focus on only getting parts out one at a time, e.g. the right foot. once you have gotten comfortable leaving your body in this way, you shoukd be able to leave in one push much easier. but the biggest thing to be aware of is not putting too much strain on yourself, as this can breed frustration which in the blink of an eye, can bring you right back to square one. it’s much easier said than done, but the key is to stay as relaxed as possible, and things should go smoother for you once you get the hang of it. also worth mention: chances are, after you’ve become accustomed to leaving and travelling, don’t be surprised if you hit a rough patch, where you can’t really project fully, or you can’t “see” these happen to everybody at some point, the main reason being that in your familiarity with projection, you’d have probably skipped a step, because you wanted to move things along quicker. hope this helped
I heard the intense ringing!!! but I wasn’t ready… I was having a wild crazy dream and within it I started to become lucid, Its like the 2nd time I’ve ever been able to realize I’m dreaming. As soon as I realized this though, and when I wanted to change stuff I just started to feel as if my body in the dream was floating up and the scene just grayed out. I was thinking to myself aww man I finally get lucid and the dream grays out on me lol. Then it happened the intense ringing and serge of energy almost that I’ve read about, and I realized that I was laying in my bed and that I must be starting to go astral. I didn’t want to at the moment I just had the crazy dream and then finally getting lucid I think was enough for me that I didn’t want to go just then. So I managed to stop it by opening my eyes and sitting up, there was a brief moment though when it felt like I was waving my arms around, but my body never actually moved, so maybe I started to separate partially? I’m not sure it was very brief right before I actually sat up.
This is the second time I’ve had the “signs of separation” the first time it was only a vibrational buzzing of the body and sound, but this time it was just such an intense ringing. I kind of regret that I always get freaked out and not allow it to just happen. I think partially its because I wasn’t sure if I actually believed in it when I first started trying, but now that the signs have shown these few times its almost too real for me and I’m afraid of getting spooked out by something. I should just man up I guess haha and try it at least once to just let it happen, maybe I’ll get another shot soon.
How can a beginner encase themselves in the protection you talk about? I’m considering giving it a shot, but the thought of something messing with my body while I’m away from it really freaks me out.
@antu, I believe these are merely projections of yourself, so no need to be frightened.
Oh and I tried this earlier today, I felt my astral body leave for about 2 seconds and maybe a few inches from my regular body but then I got too scared of the sensations it was giving me and snapped out of it. I need to overcome my fears.
@antu, Nope. I believe the act of putting this barrier around you just makes you “feel” safe, when in reality, you always are. So I guess, it doesn’t hurt to put this barrier around you, and if you forget, I wouldn’t worry :)
@blankey, Yeah the sensations are so intense…I wish I could just let them be.
@antu, From what I’ve heard when you are outside that you are still connected to your body through a silver cord, almost like an umbilical cord. This cord can stretch out to any length and you can always pop back into your body and nothing can affect your body because of this.
@adammastermind, Apparently you always make it back. There’s some string holding you to your body and when you die apparently it breaks. Although, I have never experienced this so I don’t know for certain.
Has anyone had any successes?
at least a full hour of entertainment and more importantly, information on Astral Travel/ Out of Body Experiences… and even personal accounts from masters of this thing like Steven LaBerge.