Foundations of Astral Projection for the Curious Traveller
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| Iris
i fall asleep every time im trying this (any time a day) any tips on what i can do? |
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| Brandon P’naantan Pinkney
(@hlalhabattu)
11 months, 2 weeks ago ago
@aneris this may sound totally crazy or counterproductive but, as you are lying down, try singing to yourself, whatever words or sounds come to you at that moment, whether they be intelligible or strange jibberish, just do it, the first time I did it, after about 10 minutes I was completely relaxed and my mind was quieted so I could focus all of my attention inward also, when you are lying there (not to jump to conclusions), you must turn all of your attention,, at first to feeling the energies that both surround you and that are within you, if you skip this step, you’ll 9 times out of 10 fall asleep instead |
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| Iris
@hlalhabattu, thanks for the advice! |
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| Pure Reality [Logan]
Lucid dreaming is actually very similar to astral projecting… what many people don’t realize is that during astral projection you don’t actually leave your body, you are only discovering what your sub-conscious has created of the reality you see… If anyone is getting into astral projection and the alike, and wants some history about it as well I would suggest reading the book called Soul Flight by Donald Tyson. |
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| Brandon P’naantan Pinkney
(@hlalhabattu)
11 months, 2 weeks ago ago
@aneris that is good, it’s best to do this kind of thing in stages, after my first time I think I waited like a week before I tried again, but just remember the less stress and pressure you put on yourself, the easier it becomes to “get out” and when I choose to go about right before, so even if I don’t actually AP it sets up a pretty awesome opportunity to lucid dream and I can go straight from the energy work into sleep because of how relaxed I am. that’s also something you can try |
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| Iris
I’ve been trying to astral project for about a year now but i do not seem to get passed the first 3 steps you mentioned. |
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| Eric
(@blankey)
9 months, 2 weeks ago ago 1
So I had a lucid dream this morning after my mom waking me up and then falling back asleep. As I became lucid, I sat down in some grass, closed my eyes, and said out-loud, “I would like to leave my body now.” When I did this I felt the presence of my room around me, but instead of feeling my body, I felt something begin to move away from me, I felt myself briefly break away from my body. As I broke away, the sensation was the most intense thing I have ever felt and therefore resisted. Sadly, I barely got out of my body and was immediately slammed back into my skin bag. Soon my friends, soon… |
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| Brandon P’naantan Pinkney
(@hlalhabattu)
8 months, 1 week ago ago
CHECK-IN: how are peoples’ practices going? have you stagnated, having issues/frustrations? feel confused about something? ask away and I’ll answer to the best of my abilities. also, feel free to share notable experiences |
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| Tine
Glad to see this post again, about to attempt it shortly, I am having trouble leaving my body |
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| Rob
“According to Bob Bruce of the Queensland Skeptics Association, astral projection is “just imagining”, or “a dream state”. Although there is rigorous mathematical support for parallel universes[65], Bruce writes that the existence of an astral plane is contrary to the limits of science. “We know how many possibilities there are for dimensions and we know what the dimensions do. None of it correlates with things like astral projection.” Bruce attributes astral experiences such as “meetings” alleged by practitioners to confirmation bias and coincidences.” Is anyone as skeptical of this as I am? |
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| Brandon P’naantan Pinkney
(@hlalhabattu)
8 months, 1 week ago ago
@tine, give it time, with practice you’ll find it easier to leave. care to elaborate what problems you are having? @facets, his quote is fine and dandy, but what do you believe? if it is only imagining, then it is some damn good stuff. so that said have you even attempted it, because even if you quantify everything and chock it up to confirmation bias, dreams or imagination, I question whether you could deny its “magic” after having one such experience. its really a “don’t knock it before you try it” kinda thing, man and if you do decide to try, use this as a resource |
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| Rob
@hlalhabattu, I really don’t know. I naturally feel some initial skepticism, but I am still going to give it my best try. I don’t mean to knock it, just wanted to see how my fellow HEthens felt about the skeptic’s perspective. |
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| Brandon P’naantan Pinkney
(@hlalhabattu)
8 months ago ago 1
@facets, good on you for not letting your skepticism totally shut you off from trying it. if you ever need help, give me a shout :) and like I said before to a couple people, even if you don’t fully leave your body if at all, the energy buildup beforehand is still worth it |
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| Eric
(@blankey)
8 months ago ago
@xlogan, There are many documented accounts of people visiting people and in one case specifically I remember, a dude was put under hypnosis and then was told to leave his body, he did. He then visited his girlfriend whom which they were in a fight at the time. He saw her writing a note to him. The therapist told him to read it aloud and then he wrote down what he said. Sure enough the next day the dude got the letter and it was the same words besides for a few key phrases. If this isn’t proof enough that you literally are entering the “real” world with your astral body, then I don’t know what is. |
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| Dnonymous
(@udntnome)
8 months ago ago
@blankey, that’s not proof to me @hlalhabattu, What experiences have you personally had that have convinced you that you’re actually leaving your body but staying in objective reality? I’ve had both waking and sleeping obe’s but I’ve never been able to verify that I’m experiencing something other than a subconscious simulation of sorts. Most of my exploration has been through lucid dreaming but there have been times when it started in my bedroom and everything was exactly where I left it and I would have sworn I wasn’t dreaming but then I went outside and still had the dreamlike ability to manifest my thoughts. Do you still have lucid-dream-like abilities while you are projecting? I do, and this has me convinced that we can travel further and further from our bodies but never farther than our brains |
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| Brandon P’naantan Pinkney
(@hlalhabattu)
8 months ago ago
@udntnome, I’d say the feeling of the separation itself speaks loud enough to me, feeling your “physical body” slowly drift into paralysis as your “astral body” reaches out and literally removes itself, either all at once or bit by bit (feeling your arms stretch out and push against you to hoist the rest out is a very interesting sensation). as for the case of remaining lucid during this process, it’s a given that you’ve got complete control over your actions while AP-ing, so the only limit is that of your degree of lucidity while projecting, as you may drift back or only get partially out, etc. |
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| Dnonymous
(@udntnome)
8 months ago ago
@hlalhabattu, Are your eye’s open when you project? are they open when you come back to the body? And when I’m talking about manifesting thoughts I’m talking more about making objects appear out of nowhere or morphing things that you encounter; more or less altering the fabric of your dreamscape. I’ve had luck with direct as well as indirect techniques but even the time’s when I was entering from a waking state, my eyes were closed and when I swung out of my body I was definitely still in my own mind. |
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| Dnonymous
(@udntnome)
8 months ago ago
@vizznou, That’s the text that I read two years ago when I got started with this. To this date it has been the most helpful and educational book that I’ve read on the matter. It is simplified so that even people with english as their second or third language should have no problem understanding the main points. There are diagrams for visual learners and on the website there is even a video for the laziest of learners. Here’s a link to the pdf for those who missed or ignored it last time. IF YOU ARE HAVING TROUBLE WITH LUCID DREAMING OR ASTRAL PROJECTION, OR YOU JUST WISH TO TUNE IN YOUR SKILLS….. YOU MUST READ THIS DOCUMENT. SERIOUSLY, YOU WILL NOT REGRET IT. EVEN TEN MINUTES A DAY, DOOOO IT. |
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| Brandon P’naantan Pinkney
(@hlalhabattu)
8 months ago ago
@udntnome, the eyes remain closed throughout opening when you return and come to, as for manifestation of ideas, I’ve never actually tried to say, make a bus appear, but I’d assume it works, since you can go to where you think of going in an instant |
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| Dnonymous
(@udntnome)
8 months ago ago
@hlalhabattu, I don’t understand what makes you believe that the astral plane is anything other than a conscious and subconscious interpretation of what a realistic astral plane would be. I guess what I’m looking for is any experience that you’ve had that connects you to either another person or an actual place, but in real time. |
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| Brandon P’naantan Pinkney
(@hlalhabattu)
8 months ago ago
@udntnome, unfortunately (not a cop out, but the honest truth) I haven’t had any real-time experience connecting me with another person or place, as I know no one near me who practices, whom I could “test the waters with” so to speak, and I haven’t say gone to a friend’s house on the astral plane for any reason, because that would feel like voyeurism. so I’m sorry I can’t give you that piece of validation, I can tell you however that astral projection is less a means of adventure for me and more a spiritual practice, and it is spent accordingly, so you’d just have to find out yourself whether this astral plane truly is a construct or a legit different plane of existence. so, that said, I’m sorry I can’t really help you in that regard, but this, like many things, is best learned independently, so keep searching, man. |
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| Dnonymous
(@udntnome)
8 months ago ago
@hlalhabattu, I have tried and failed many a time at validating that my travel is actually out of my body; I was just curious as to your experiences. What do you usually do when you project? While I am under the strong impression that the astral plane is a subjectively experienced reality mostly subconsciously fabricated from memory and creativity; with my worldview that doesn’t make it any less of a viable medium for communication with “the source” “god” “oversoul” “universal unconscious” or whatever else you want to call it |
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| Brandon P’naantan Pinkney
(@hlalhabattu)
8 months ago ago
@udntnome, I meditate mostly, either that or do “internal energy work” to make sure I’m ok I’ve gotten to the point that I don’t care either way if it’s real or not, I just allow my experiences to speak for themselves, each is different and special in its own way, and that’s all the validation I need for right now. but a quick word of advice, next time, try separate your mental feelings from the sensations the rest of your body is subject to, before the projection itself, this may help you |
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| Dnonymous
(@udntnome)
8 months ago ago
@hlalhabattu, I will take that into consideration next time. Recently I’ve only been entering through lucid dreaming, I’m just too busy as lame as that sounds |
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| D^Antognan
@udntnome, Great PDF; extreme detail, exactly what I was looking for, THaNK YOU! :) |
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