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@jkim1233, your generalizations speaks a lot about your ignorance to the whole community in general. My house sponsors charities, the average HOUSE wide GPA was 3.6, and forces you to interact with people on a daily basis which builds some strong bonds between friends that last a lifetime. Yeah there are some douches in greek life, but they are everywhere so get used to it.
@paul2, I was in a frat recently. It was cool at first but then I realized it kinda puts you in a bubble from the rest of the school and it becomes an intoxicating, shared mentality. I also don’t like how people will judge you based of your frats rep/ rumors as if your not an individual. There are some benefits but overall I recommend being independent.
Tried it, but I wasn’t initiated.
I was under the impression that these guys were different from the other fraternities, because that was the image they gave off. They did have a slightly better state of mind in most cases, but they certainly were not willing to let go of the elitist douche mentality.
I took it way too personally the first time I rushed with them, but after some coercing from brothers who appreciated my presence, I decided to give it another go…and was kicked out even quicker than the first time.
People still tried to get me to go for a 3rd time, and I basically told them to suck it. I can say I do not regret the experience because I met an amazing group of people there, who I am now really close to….it’s actually quite ironic, because the people I care about the most were the ones who basically started ditching the frat RIGHT as I first started trying to get into it. I have lived with several of them and will be living with one this coming year.
Life is crazy, don’t let anyone stop you from being yourself, but don’t deny yourself experiences either. Give it a go.
I can’t believe people are actually telling you not to join a fraternity.
Not only should you should a fraternity, you should aspire to be one of the future leaders. you will gain so much valuable knowledge, and experience so many more amazing memories that people that never joined a fraternity will never understand.
Joining one was one of the best decisions of my life. You learn so much about yourself as well as how you function in an organization.
I keep reading about all the people who didn’t make it in/got kicked out of fraternities. I have to sat that these peoples’ views from the outside of greek life (not a FRAT, that is an example of some ignorant terminology) are going to differ, obviously, with my own personal opinion.I am entering my third year, and couldn’t imagine a life outside. Living conditions can vary between fraternities, but its not difficult to differentiate between the party houses and the academic houses. I joined a house that fit my style, rushed, pledged (had to deal with some bullshit which ultimately ends up teaching you a few lessons), and eventually joined that house. Opened a ton of doors, threw some fun ass parties, and even raised my GPA in college. Three years later I’m still loving it.
This is such a biased thread. This is full of a bunch of people saying that frats are terrible things that brain wash you, and are asking you to make a decision based on nothing more than an opinion. Just like in real life, there will always be douche bags mixed in with good guys.
That’s the only reason I don’t get this generalization that people say, “Oh, I met one guy from some small frat who acts like a crazy douche. That must mean every single frat guy on the planet must suck.” How closed minded is that? You are doing exactly what you are saying is so terrible about fraternities. I feel like most of these people are less social people who looked at frat members in jealous/envious contempt in College. If you made a lot of friends, and enjoy being socially active and giving back to your community, then join a frat. If not, then don’t, and do your own thing at your own pace.
Don’t let a bunch of older people looking back on events in their lives in a sour context ruin it for you. I’d say 80% don’t know anything ACTUALLY REAL about fraternities past movies like Animal House. Oh yea, we all know how accurate and truthful movies can be. EVERY fraternity is based on good ideals and morals, even the d-bags that do nothing but party still raise money for charity organizations with those huge parties. It’s not a bad thing to enjoy life and have fun, especially in college.
Take this beyond an internet thread man, most of these people don’t know what they’re talking about. I just graduated from college, and was in a Frat. If they really were what all these people say they are, Frats wouldn’t be allowed on College campuses.
@paul2, I pledged and was initiated into a social fraternity back when I was a freshman in college not too long ago. In hindsight, it was like an elitist, conformist, aryan environment that promoted immaturity and dick-measuring of all things superficial (drinking, sex, house, clothes, parties, that kind of stuff). They hide behind their supposed ‘virtues’ and spend time pretending to the public that they’re really into kids with cancer or autism. Oh yeah, don’t forget the dues – you have to pay your dues to be considered an elite member of society, don’t you know? Add a hefty $600-700 each semester to your budget for the right to be a shameless public douche. Anyway, I ended up deactivating, but I still keep up with some of the guys I actually understood. Sadly it seems like there were some great guys, but they’re so wrapped up in their status and privilege in the eyes of college culture. Good luck if you pledge – if you’re like most people on high existence who actually understand what the site stands for, you’ll be questioning your shallow behavior each step you take towards conformity of the worst kind.
Just my opinion…
It’s not “buying friends.” That’s a myth invented by people, who don’t have many friends already, and despise fraternity people. You pay so that your Frat can put together big trips and events that YOU take part in. Not sad, just memorable. Haters gonna hate though
@orthaw, Finally, a post that doesn’t slam fraternities. I’m in one too, and I met a huge group of great guys whom I’m good friends with now. My advice to you is to rush as many fraternities as you can when you get to school, and if there’s one that you really like then you should pledge — you can back out at any time you want during pledgeship.
@jkim1233, wow, first of all I’m not even going to get into all the Wall Street movements and other protests. But the main issue here is that you brought that into the argument. You say that people shouldn’t join frats because they should just go randomly protest some politics? You sir, are an ignorant fool who is desperately attempting to grasp some thread of logical thought. You failed. Thank you, come again.