Get That Crap Out Of My Face

2 years, 10 months ago

In going over the main points in my mind, I’ve worked myself into a burning rage. I’ll take a walk later to cool my head, but for now, I’m pissed.
Going over some of my old posts on the subject of taking and legalizing drug, I think I’ve pinpointed what makes me so angry about the subject. People who are substance abusers don’t really bother me. Shooting heroin or smoking weed have no real effect on me if that’s the criteria we’re going by. What gets under my skin is that most people I begrudgingly know who are substance abusers want me to partake in recreational drugs along side them. Let me make this clear: Drugs are not the answer to all of life’s problems. I can’t even say they are the answer to any of life’s problems. If you want to be public with your weakness, that’s your problem. But I have no interest in being like you. I hate people like you. People like you disgust me. What makes you think that I want to be like you. I can only assume that the people here who are promising that the abundance of drugs in the world will solve problems are trying to be funny or satirical, because otherwise, I have to assume you’re suffering from some form of psychosis, possibly brought on by years of smoking weed.
I’m just getting more and more pissed the more I think about how people want me to be a substance abuser like them (and believe me, I know people who want this), so I’ll sum it up like this: Don’t involve me in your weakness, and quit trying to promote something that’s making me so angry.

June 30, 2012 at 10:18 am

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Profile photo of DaJetPlane DaJetPlane M (@lytning91) 2 years, 10 months ago ago

@kidd, we all comes from different stages when we enter into the arena of discussion like this. Some of us have passed that point where we held up unnecessary defenses to make sure we didn’t crumble…and those people learned just how valuable laying down your preconceptions is to validating yourself and others.

I can only hope that everyone experiences the unity that comes from this at some point in time, because it is certainly a worthwhile experience.

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Profile photo of TheSkaFish TheSkaFish M (@theskafish) 2 years, 10 months ago ago

@lytning91, “confrontation is only worth it when it is necessary” Well, I’d say the example I used was a prime one in terms of confrontation being necessary, since it’s an issue of survival. But anyway…

“These people are successful because they had the initiative to unite their dreams with reality and land jobs doing something they love.”

So what? I don’t have a job right now. In some ways, I love it. Way more than I would doing any of the jobs you are suggesting I be impressed with. You attempted to school me, attempted to call me stupid but I found your examples wanting. YOU assumed that what impresses you, or others, should impress me too. Besides, how much of this so-called success was pure initiative and how much was dumb luck, or who they know? That’s another reason I rebuffed your argument so strongly, I’m tired of hearing how people are blessed with “initiative.” Bullshit. Luck plays a big role in life, whether it’s people you know, your location, your background, health, lack of better options on the employer’s part, or pure coincidence of showing up at the right place at the right time, just when a position needed to be filled. One can do very well on their own, but to truly win you need other things to align which you may or may not be able to control.

“The assumption that my friends are not impressive to you is, frankly, insulting, and if your rebuttals continue to consist of more narrow-minded assumptions I see no reason we should continue this discussion at all.”

Why is this a narrow-minded assumption? The things you say they do are not really anything I care about, nor do I think they are that incredibly difficult, therefore I’m not impressed. Where do you get off telling me what should impress me? Talk about high horses…….

“Weed isn’t an intoxicant to most…” – Another assumption. Got any stats, interviews, etc.? You yourself said you haven’t even smoked it. Next time you tell someone they are full of assumptions, fallacy, and bias, check yourself first. I’m sorry, but I really don’t feel like taking this shit.

In my opinion, people should be able to smoke all the weed they want. I’m PRO legalization, for fuck’s sake. But I can really start to understand the OP here, and I’m just starting to get sick of hearing about how wonderful or magical weed is. I’m reminded of being in college and seeing everyone around me get all into drinking, because “we’re in college now and drinking is what college people do, and anyone who doesn’t just sucks” But whatever, I’m done……

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Profile photo of  Anonymous (@) 2 years, 10 months ago ago

@lytning91, Hey! Most of the chemically synthesized stuff isn’t bad or good for you, stuff like LSD is less harmful than breathing the pollution-filled air in major cities. Shit like heroin is terrible for you, so is meth, but not things like T-U-I, BEATRICE, and DMT.

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Profile photo of  Anonymous (@) 2 years, 10 months ago ago

Having a heavily influenced perception of drugs as something bad is your problem, not mine (ours).

You choose not to do them, but how can you bash them without attempting the most coveted of them, things like psilocybin, lsd, and DMT?

There is no further ignorance than claiming one understands psychoactives without having experienced them (to a decent extent).

Basically what you are saying is that you enjoy your perception of reality, and anyone willing to recommend another perception of your [entire] reality is an asshole and you hate them.

Welcome to not-so-high existence.

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Profile photo of DaJetPlane DaJetPlane M (@lytning91) 2 years, 10 months ago ago

If your example fits the mold then good for you. Confrontation, in general, is perceived by me as a bad thing.

Again, I don’t really see much of a point to where you are trying to take this. Your lack of interest in what people who I think are successful do means little to me. You don’t know them, and so any attempt you make to see the example as a “bad” one only proves your argument is groundless. Your perception shows weed to be something that negatively affects people, mine doesn’t. I can’t make you visit my friend, nor agree on what success is. Drawing that petty argument out as if it validates anything either of us has said is fruitless.

I never said you had to be impressed. I don’t give a crap whether your find a job impressive or not. The point was to show that I see people who use pot being fulfilled in life. I also have been around them long enough to know it was just “luck” that got them where they are. Like I said, you don’t know them so there’s obviously no intention of having you just comprehend their success.

I never called you stupid. Refrain from placing words in my mouth.

I gave an example to flout your completely ludicrous assumption that weed smokers are negatively impacted by their decisions with an example I know. We don’t know the same people so obviously I don’t have a common point of reference for you to understand. You can find the examples wanting all you like, but they are still real examples which trump your overextended claim.

And I don’t care about luck. It has no relevance in this argument. People are and are not lucky. We all have the same chance of being lucky, if that even is a thing, so to act as if these two areas of discussion correlate is stupid. It applies equally to your argument: maybe the weed smokers you know are just UNLUCKY. Total BS addition to this discussion.

It’s narrow-minded because you aren’t willing to step outside of your own shell to fathom the point of my example. Attacking the example does nothing for you at all. We are all aware of relativity and that success to one person is failure to another depending on the circumstances. I don’t care what you think about me or my friends. I created a legitimate rebuttal and was met with “well I don’t think so so nope.” If I had that attitude I’d have stopped talking to you forever ago. I aim to gain something. You certainly gain nothing from grounding everything you say in “well, I think this and I think that.” We all think things, so grant that and see beyond it.

Taking what? Life is an intoxicant if weed is one. The effect it has on your body is far less adverse than the massive DMT trips you have every night when you sleep. It’s certainly not as intensive as the endorphins and adrenaline that pump through your body as your emotions rise and fall. (and these things have plenty of scientific basis). It’s just another relative term you use to try and place a stigma on something.

I have experience with others who use it, and I accept that my inexperience leaves me lacking complete understanding. I don’t masquerade under the guise that I have, and I gave a perspective based on what I do know and what I have seen. From there, I seek positive discussion with people also interested in actually growing to push my understanding even further.

I own up to my bias, assumptions, and limited understanding. I present what I understand and constructively compare that to what other people are willing to offer. I even STATED CLEARLY that I was coming from a place of limited understanding. Trying to turn my comment on bias against me AFTER I ALREADY SUBMITTED TO THIS just proves the mentality you are coming at this discussion with. I have yet to actually see you admit to just how biased you are in all of your opinions and assumptions…

In the end, I was only trying to gain. It seems to me you don’t actually seek any more than to butt heads with someone who disagrees with you.

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Profile photo of DaJetPlane DaJetPlane M (@lytning91) 2 years, 10 months ago ago

@thomaschong, I was speaking more to the fact that there are more risks taken from intensive chemical synthesis than from extracting the good stuff elementarily, like ones does with weed.

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Profile photo of TheSkaFish TheSkaFish M (@theskafish) 2 years, 10 months ago ago

@lytning91, Though I still respect the OP’s opinion, for what it’s worth, I apologize. As things went on I simply became pissed off for no reason, and it built on itself like an avalanche. Though I think sticking to one’s guns can be a strength, in this case it was wasted since this is all opinion and personal choice anyway. Sorry

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Profile photo of DaJetPlane DaJetPlane M (@lytning91) 2 years, 10 months ago ago

@theskafish, Much love friend. I still think you are dope and I mean…I respect both of your opinions. It’s always difficult to tread the lines between effective discussion and emotional debate.

I had a similar discussion with someone else not too long ago and, when I read back over it all, I was just very displeased with my behavior. It’s so easy to get overly passionate about something sometimes…I mean, passion is amazingly beautiful. In the wrong situation, it can be harnessed for REALLY bad stuff.

Again, though, Mad <3 for you. I don’t intend to let any bad blood ruin a connect I get to have with someone who has as much passion as you do. I will no doubt find your insight very revealing at another point in time.

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Profile photo of Peaceflower Peaceflower (@cosmicplur) 2 years, 10 months ago ago

I just want to point out here, not all drug users are drug abusers. There is a very legitimate difference.

At the same time, no one should pressure you to partake, but if it is simply offered, I would be grateful for the opportunity, even if you dont appreciate what it means. And I am speaking from a hallucinogenic viewpoint. Using drugs together only has significant meaning to me while passing the peace pipe, and exploring the wonders of our existence. Anything else, I really dont have experience to speak.
But I know, an invitation to a trip is something I woukd cherish with an open heart, even if I didnt partake.

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Profile photo of Webshea! Webshea! (@thelightofgod) 2 years, 10 months ago ago

I dont do drugs anymore and nobody bothers me about it!!You do You .Grand sceem of things is ,No one gives a fuck if you do or dont do drugs,if you can relate good,if not, o well.

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Profile photo of Webshea! Webshea! (@thelightofgod) 2 years, 10 months ago ago

The title of this thread reminds me of this movie,this black guy goes”Get that shit outta my face,Outta ma faceeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!

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Profile photo of Peaceflower Peaceflower (@cosmicplur) 2 years, 10 months ago ago

It reminds me of nacho libre

“get that corn out my face!”

nachoooo

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