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I hate that this conversations went straight to chemical sleep aides.
Your problem is not chemical, it’s mental. Chemicals follow mentality.
You’re saying you need sleep but you’re here on the internet posting.,,
White light tells your body etc. that it’s daylight and stimulates wakefulness even if you don’t like it. Quit looking at screens when you’re trying to sleep.
dont lay in bed if you are having trouble getting to sleep, get up and do some shit, take a hot shower, eat a small snack, do whatever until you are so tired that your body forces you to go to sleep.
also you may want to try listening to something soothing while you go to bed like Alan Watts lectures, if you have a busy mind this will help distract it so you can get to sleep faster. Some people say this is bad to do, but after weening my self off sleeping pills and pot to be able to go to sleep, this kind of thing works wonders
@gusman6, I can give you two suggestions. Both are examples of newer technologies and both I have had success with.
1) Brain entrainment. A simple mp3 of an isochronic tone in the theta or delta frequency would actually “trick” your brain into slipping into that frequency. Then, you’d be asleep basically.
Truthfully, however, this doesn’t work for everybody.
2) tDCS. Transcranial direct current stimulation has been used most often to either treat depression, or excite neurons. It has a pretty large DIY following (of which I am a part) and many people find other ways to experiment with it in their home. One way I discovered was to treat insomnia with it. In my own experiments, I noticed that excitation of the DLPFC (dorsalateral prefrontal cortex) CAUSED insomnia. However, stimulating the right anterior temporal lobe had the opposite effect. I slept all night, required less sleep, and had plenty of energy the next day.
How you could administer tDCS on yourself without learning how to build a machine: Purchase an iontophoresis device. It emits a regulated current within the specified range of tDCS (I found an old model on ebay recently for like $75). Attach electrodes (anode to your right temple, cathode to your left shoulder), and turn on machine for 20 minutes.
Do this every night before bed.
Hope this helps.
@yoinkie, I used to endure it, until I stopped complaining. Then my life became fantastic. You almost got it right. When you don’t sleep for days and you feel tired, but even your brain isn’t giving you a hint how to fall asleep, and you’re starting to get really big circles around your eyes, always thinking and not realizing that you don’t have enough energy – starting to drink water like a complete dumbass – here’s the time to call people with another insulting names. I just don’t suffer from not sleeping, and from anything else for that matter. It is all related to stress. Being too sensitive also plays a big role for insomnia. :) I don’t believe you’re not affected from a paragraph, but from one word – how can you not suffer from sleeping when you’re paying attention to littleness?
I have gone through periods of intense insomnia as well. SUCKS.
Sometimes what I do is lie in bed and try and think of a really clear dream I had the night before. I try to allow my mind to wander into this dream. This method of getting to sleep has worked well for me-it’s almost like you’re tricking your brain back into going to sleep. If I didn’t have any dreams, I try to imagine something ridiculous and I keep going into more and more detail until I am unconscious and sleeping.
Another method that doesn’t necessarily get you to sleep ASAP, but helps in the process is counting 10 deep breaths. Every time you get distracted and forget what number you are on, you start all over at 1. And when you get to 10, if you don’t feel physically more relaxed, do it again.
Change positions on your bed when you can’t sleep. For bad periods of insomnia last summer, I would occasionally end up sleeping on the floor in a sleeping bag.
Some people swear by hot milk and honey. Tea is also great. I am personally not opposed to the ‘non natural’ chemical sleeping pills..honestly, after a few days of not sleeping, it is worth it to pop a pill and get some shut eye. I never got addicted, because they only worked half the time anyway.
You should read the short story “Sleep” by Murakami in the book “The Elephant Vanishes”..it is fantastic. Won’t help you sleep though..
When needing some sleep one must fucking tell what they work, what they do daily and if they eat properly and exercise. Otherwise all I could advice is become a brilliant mastermind like me and make music with the frequencies that are tranquil to you, so you could sleep whenever you need to regenerate. Also, you should look on the net how to stop THINKING and how to relieve stress, if you’re not exercising. When I cannot sleep, I do something. When I do something, I get sleepy. The key is to not care much about priorities and stay cool.
Also, stop being such a pussy.
@greenbird9183, overdose with tea and honey is very nice. :)
Here’s a link with helpful stuff. http://www.psychologytoday.com/collections/201106/the-roots-insomnia
You’ve got to figure out what’s causing it. http://insomnia.ygoy.com/causes-of-insomnia/
To be honest, neither alcohol, drugs nor any other substance can help you sleep if you don’t stop giving a fuck.
I’ve had insomnia since early childhood.. like age 2. Honestly, one of the only things that helped me sleep, was smoking weed before I went to bed… or all day. lol. Other than that… Try spending more time relaxing in the sun, and ONLY go near your bed whenever you are going to be intimate or sleep. Don’t let your bed become associated with anything else, like eating, playing video games, or talking on the phone, or internet… Another thing to try is reading before you go to bed, but I’m sure you have already tried that within the last two years lol.
I think dysania, the state of finding it hard to get out of bed in the morning, is far worse than insomnia. At least an insomniac can be productive.
I’ve also heard (from Conversations with God) that the more enlightened, or self-aware, you are, the less sleep you need. Lots of people who are not considered enlightened by anyones standards go on as little as 2 hours a night. Anyways, I think if you start meditating consistently, you would gain more influence over sleep patterns.
I just went on a long internet tangent.
melatonin and 5-HTP help me. Stay away from perscription sleeping pills! They say some of them are not addicting, but for me they have all been psychologically addicting. There are tons of websites for insomniacs…I’ve found the most help[ful tips are to exercise, avoid caffeine, and wind down before going to sleep. I can never sleep when something exciting or really interesting has just happened so its good to preserve some time to really kick back and relax before trying to sleep. Get back up and read again if you can’t sleep too. Hope that helps!
Come now everyone, this is HE, people don’t need to hear which chemicals could help them sleep. Google is fine enough for people to compromise to that chemical delusion.
Outside chemicals are impartial cop-outs for fixing an issue yourself. The issue will remain.
Melatonin suppliments as mentioned above, and some sort of passionflower/lemon balm/chamomile herbal tea an hour or so before bed will work wonders! ive never tried 5-htp for sleep, so i cant really comment, but a friend of mine says she prefers melatonin to it. theres also been some speculation as to the saftey of 5-htp suppliments i might add.
But most deffinatly stay away from sleeping pills. those things are the devil, unless you dont have sleeping problems and just need to crash for some reason(like an international flight or something).
@beyond, no need to call someone a pussy for suffering from insomnia at all. I’m a little insulted, because I suffer from extreme insomnia as well and hearing that makes me think you have never had to endure it.
@gusman6, I gotta go with @poetree, on this one, smoking weed an hour or so before bed is the only way I sleep. There are nights when I dont smoke where I wont get a single minute of sleep. Sorry I cant help more, because I have found nothing that even slightly helps my insomnia.
@gusman6, From my experience with friends, Sleeping pills, ironically when taken by insomniacs, can produce disturbing mental side effects, such as sleep-eating where you wake up with a nasty bowl of old cereal turned over on your lap, or a bagel with cream cheese stuck to your face. Also, my friends have reported night terrors, chronic nightmares, sleep apnea, and sleep paralysis.
Eat massive amounts of turkey. xD
Also, Marley’s Mellow Mood Herbal Relaxation Tea has the extracts of Passion flower, lemon balm leaves, chamomile flower, hops flower, and Valerian root, as well as Melatonin. You can buy them usually from a gas station if they are being marketed in your area, if not, just talk to an owner of one and tell them about them and to order them. They are super popular around here. The only dosage recommendation is that you not exceed 2 bottles in one day (which would be 4 servings, but one is enough to make you VERY relaxed, and want to sleep). You really only need to drink one can, or one bottle at a time. That may help ALOT. If, smoking weed doesn’t, or isn’t an option of course. :b
Not all humans have to sleep every night, just like not all humans have to eat more than once a day.
If you suffer from insomnia, you should investigate how your life would be so much better and freer if you didn’t glue yourself to a trivial 24-hour life cycle.
I really hope people right-away quit referencing using chemicals/drugs to help with issues that ones mind creates. It is counter-intuitive.
Repeat After Me: “I OUGHT NOT USE CHEMICALS TO HELP ME SLEEP. I DELUDE MYSELF INTO BELIEVING THAT I DID NOT CAUSE OR CANNOT FIX THE ISSUE MYSELF.”