HEthen religion

2 years, 9 months ago

I heard you need 10,000 supporters to submit a formal religion, like Star-trek, what do you say? lol

April 5, 2012 at 3:38 pm

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Profile photo of vishnu vishnu (@vizznou) 2 years, 9 months ago ago

Ha-ha! who comes up with these numbers. Funny! our religion is.. no religion! as in whatever religion.

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Profile photo of Ray Butler Ray Butler M (@trek79) 2 years, 9 months ago ago

Yes, imagine the irony of a site that consists of so many people with sentiment against religion, forming their own. It is logical in a way, to show all these mainstream religions just how religion should be done. But, where has everyone been? You do not form religions for principles, you form it for TAX BREAKS!!!

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Profile photo of Dom Dom (@dominickjohn) 2 years, 9 months ago ago

We wonder if we called the religion “tax break” we’d be rejected, haha

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Profile photo of Flynnstone Flynnstone (@flynnstone) 2 years, 9 months ago ago

HEthenism=the belief that everyone can believe whatever the f**k they want, as long as they can submit those beliefs to strict HEthen scrutiny for the sake of bettering whatever it is a HEthen believes.
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Profile photo of Dan Dan (@danfontaine) 2 years, 9 months ago ago

Lol yeah wtf. A religion of people who know better than to label themselves.

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Profile photo of Peter Peter (@searchingforthetruth) 2 years, 9 months ago ago

Not really, a religion is just a set of protocols or rules to live by. It’s not labeling until you use it to label yourself.

I’m sure there is a common theme of beliefs that people live by and in most instances would apply to just about everyone on this forum or who continues to seek the truth.

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Profile photo of Zach Zach (@v1kingfan) 2 years, 9 months ago ago

I think it would be great, like buddhism. I am reading the book Conversations With God, and it says that societies who think astonishing things happen to societies who think alike. It also implies that most often times societies like these work on fear. Imagine if there was a society where everyone worked for one another, somewhat like in the movie accepted. Everyone helped each other achieve their goals and respected each other while doing so.

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Profile photo of Sasho Stoyanov Anonymous (@) 2 years, 9 months ago ago

@flynnstone, that made sense… I think.

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Eww I don’t like this idea at all.

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Profile photo of Ray Butler Ray Butler M (@trek79) 2 years, 9 months ago ago

@generaltitsvonchodehoffen, Not so much an idea as piss and wind.
Have fun with it.

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Profile photo of Ray Butler Ray Butler M (@trek79) 2 years, 9 months ago ago

How about: “Believe what ever you want, if you want, but tell everyone about it, if you want” (?)

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Profile photo of Alex Alex (@hollowinfinity) 2 years, 9 months ago ago

At this point in time Star Wars is a better mythology than the bible. Lets just make an epic movie.

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Profile photo of Nick Nick (@nickc2007) 2 years, 9 months ago ago

Can I suggest Discordianism?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discordianism

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Profile photo of Dustin Dustin (@dobbyfisher) 2 years, 9 months ago ago

There is a certain percentage of religious people on here… I don’t think the HE sentiment should reflect ‘no religion’ so much as all religion. I’ve had some awesome conversations on here with Christians, Jews, and Muslims (and obviously Atheists and Buddhists). I like the comment on no labels… HEthens seem most concerned with the spirit that sometimes results in religion, not religion itself. Saying that, ‘star wars is a better mythology than the bible’, is an interesting comment, but it infers that we, as whole, advocate atheism… is this true? I hope not.

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Profile photo of Jordan Lejuwaan Jordan Lejuwaan A (@jordan) 2 years, 9 months ago ago

Even better, the HEthen religion requires the use of different drugs for ceremonies, such as marijuana, mushrooms, LSD and other psychedelics. Legal drug use for all followers of HEthenism haha.

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Profile photo of Dustin Dustin (@dobbyfisher) 2 years, 9 months ago ago

There he is my friends!!! Our leader hath spoke!! haha.

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Profile photo of Samuel Samuel (@hu13tt) 2 years, 9 months ago ago

@laskey, THIS. So much this. I’d love to do that. As an amateur writer, that’s like a red rag to a bull.

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Profile photo of frequently interrupted naps frequently interrupted naps (@mherman7) 2 years, 9 months ago ago

To enhance Nick’s response above, here’s a link to the Discordians primary text, The Principia Discordia: http://www.scribd.com/doc/18753357/Discordianism-The-Principia-Discordiapdf

(P.S. disclaimer – I posted this in another thread on HE already – just interested in it as an idea, not trying to promote anything!)

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Profile photo of Peter Peter (@searchingforthetruth) 2 years, 9 months ago ago

@mherman7, Would you mind explaining what it is? What have you gotten out of it? Is it worth reading?

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Profile photo of frequently interrupted naps frequently interrupted naps (@mherman7) 2 years, 9 months ago ago

I’ve found it first and foremost to be entertaining. It’s something I read parts of to break me out of creative ruts or to spur creative thoughts. I think it can serve as an effective reminder that your reality is what you make of it and that in the end, it’s really all you have control over. Positivity, negativity, apparent order, apparent disorder – these are all human constructs that arise from beings posessing free will interacting with the pure chaos that underlies everything. fnord. Your interaction with Chaos, the choices you make and how you think about them, create your reality. You can choose to take everything seriously and be afraid, baffled, jaded or angry or you can just do your best, be okay with being confused and laugh at the absurdity of all of it.

The Principia was published in 1965 and does come from the same time and from circles associated with the psychedelic movement. It’s creative or destructive potential (like anything else really) is going to be determined by the mindset of the reader. The psychedelic movement at its core was concerned with changing and expanding consciousness. It employed many tools to do this – drugs, music, literature, religions, belief systems and ‘ways / paths’ to enlightenment. As far as Discordianism was affiliated with the psychedelic movement the Principia Discordia is an artifact.

The thing about Discordianism is that while it’s flavored by the psychedelic movement it stands on its own. There are other Discordian books (Zen Without Zen Masters for instance) that are more concrete and that hint at an underlying serious belief set and path of action when looked at as a whole. There are affiliations with Chaos Magick and Crowley which probably inform any of the dark or destructive elements that might be perceived. There is a strong Zen influence as well and it strikes me most as a sort of koan. I think it informs the layout (at least) of Ram Dass’ ‘Be Here Now’ and definitely informs groups like The Church of The Subgenius.

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Profile photo of  Anonymous (@) 2 years, 9 months ago ago

I wouldn’t mind making this a religion, I like Jordan’s idea for it.

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Profile photo of w2high w2high (@w2high) 2 years, 9 months ago ago

Hi, am new here..
can i ask a question on christian religion?

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Profile photo of Jesusbob Jesusbob (@jesusbob) 2 years, 9 months ago ago

@w2high, Use the search feature for the forums as there are already topics relating to Christian religion where your question would be better received.

Also, WELCOME! =)

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Profile photo of Ray Butler Ray Butler M (@trek79) 2 years, 9 months ago ago

@w2high, there are a few Christian topics, here is a recent one, you can post a question there and plenty of people will discuss it, or you could start a new discussion http://www.highexistence.com/topic/i-am-a-christian/

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