HEthens and the internal pot debate

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Michael O’Connell
(@mikeyo) 5 months, 2 weeks ago ago
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I’ve noticed a great deal of people on this site, myself included, are involved in this internal pot debate with themselves. So I thought I’d share my experience for myself and for those interested.

I started smoking pot in college and it cracked my mind wide open, it encouraged my mind to challenge the way I see things and to dig deeper into the true nature of things. I had some of my greatest moments of clarity while star-gazing stoned.
I have been very deprived growing up of a Hethenistic lifestyle, and marijuana really awoken me to being human, also some of my best creative work as been inspired while high.

However, pot has always had a negative effect on my meditation, and after I attended a few buddhist retreats, I came to understand the precept “I will not take intoxicants” In order to keep a clear mind and maintain psychological control in order to promote proper cultivation.

So, I decided to honor the precept and I haven’t smoked for two months now. But I’ve noticed my interest in solitary exploration in nature, creative projects, and new ideas have really declined.
I’ve been more meditative, studious, and health conscious.

I think it’s necessary to add that it is winter here in NY and energies are changing, so maybe it’s not a drug/lack of drug issue, perhaps it’s cosmic or seasonal.

In conclusion, I plan on getting high soon and see how it goes
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Starry Eyed BLiND.
(@cristinelizabeth) 5 months, 2 weeks ago ago
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@mikeyo, Lol in conclusion , this almost inspires me to go rip bongs aha
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BriGuy
(@iambrian) 5 months, 2 weeks ago ago
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See, I never experienced this with pot. I usually just giggled and felt good. I became more analytical and observant when high, but that was it. I smoked pot for a while too, but now if I toke I just get a paranoia feeling and I think very negative thoughts. Mushrooms were the real eye-opener for me. That’s where I feel I learned of my creativity and clarity.
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maia
(@papaya23) 5 months, 2 weeks ago ago
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That’s interesting because you experience different improvements whether you are smoking pot or not. The marijuana itself has an effect, but I don’t think it is necessarily a positive nor negative one; it is your personal strive for self-advancement that makes you experience positive changes.
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possiblehubris
(@possiblehubris) 5 months, 2 weeks ago ago
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@mikeyo, I hear where you are coming from.
I have struggled with my relationship with pot for many years. It has given me so so much and b/c I have always had self-control I have never really experienced anything negative in regards to it. Moderation has always been the key for me. The less I smoke the more I have what I like to call “revelations”. Tough week… I go for a walk, half a few puffs and in an hour life is sorted, enlightened and I am once again grateful.
Now in terms of meditation (a practice I am a seasoned one week veteran of:) I have little insight. Until recently I have always felt that drugs gain us easy access into states of consciousness that could be attained through meditation but I not sure I believe this anymore? Not because of any doubt I have in the benefits of meditation, but more to do with the repressed feelings of guilt I have had with smoking e.g. societal judgment, comparing myself to other pot smokers, thinking that living a good life means being pure and blissful– yet once I do a little digging I find that we all struggle no matter how perfect we portray ourselves.

I say…honor it. Make is sacred every time. Focus on loving others and loving yourself.

I feel that @eyeslikeskies said it best:
“Cannabis is the holy herb….allows one to experience heart-consciousness…
I believe cannabis is a teacher, a plant teacher that shows us how to interact with others out of love.
I believe this herb has the potential to change human history if used correctly.”

So wonderful to be able to have such discussion:)
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Ellie
(@tangledupinplaid21) 5 months, 2 weeks ago ago 2
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I’m recently starting to smoke again after a couple years off the wagon. I’ve done the whole “high every day every second” thing and I’m over that. Even daily use is too much for me. Like @possiblehubris, mentioned, treating it like something sacred every time is the way to go I think. It should be used as a tool rather than out of boredom.
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