Hippies, what’s the issue?

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Brandon (@unstoppableobject)    2 years, 4 months ago

I wouldnt say there is hate as much as there is resentment. I have to deal with the hippie stereotype a lot, and am therefore often labeled a stupid lazy stoner, among other things that go along with the idea. People really pigeonhole me into this image and it can be extremely frustrating. I go to college and people are always shocked to see me at deans list ceremonies and leadership seminars because of this preconceived notion they have.
Yes i like the outdoors, yes i like to lay in the grass, yes i like to hit the occasional joint. But I am also an intellectual, among many other things. I am not one stereotype. I can’t be the only one who deals with this kind of prejudice.

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Mikey W (@mikeyw829)2 years, 4 months ago ago

If you are doing what you are doing not for the image or for an added sense of self, and someone happens to think that is being a hippie, so be it.Their opinion takes nothing away from you in this case because it wasn’t part of you to begin with. If you consider yourself a hippie, you limit your course of action to only things a hippe can do and believe in. You define yourself by what you are not (anti-war, anti-violence, anti-establishment, anti-weapons, etc). A person who does this has a definition of what ‘peace, love and unity’ are based on what they believe it isn’t, which also constricts what these things can be to a huge degree

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Mikey W (@mikeyw829)2 years, 4 months ago ago

If you are doing what you are doing not for the image or for an added sense of self, and someone happens to think that is being a hippie, so be it.Their opinion takes nothing away from you in this case because it wasn’t part of you to begin with. If you consider yourself a hippie, you limit your course of action to only things a hippe can do and believe in. You define yourself by what you are not (anti-war, anti-violence, anti-establishment, anti-weapons, etc). A person who does this has a definition of what ‘peace, love and unity’ are based on what they believe it isn’t, which also constricts what these things can be to a huge degree

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Mikey W (@mikeyw829)2 years, 4 months ago ago

If you are doing what you are doing not for the image or for an added sense of self, and someone happens to think that is being a hippie, so be it.Their opinion takes nothing away from you in this case because it wasn’t part of you to begin with. If you consider yourself a hippie, you limit your course of action to only things a hippe can do and believe in. You define yourself by what you are not (anti-war, anti-violence, anti-establishment, anti-weapons, etc). A person who does this has a definition of what ‘peace, love and unity’ are based on what they believe it isn’t, which also constricts what these things can be to a huge degree

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Mikey W (@mikeyw829)2 years, 4 months ago ago

If you are doing what you are doing not for the image or for an added sense of self, and someone happens to think that is being a hippie, so be it.Their opinion takes nothing away from you in this case because it wasn’t part of you to begin with. If you consider yourself a hippie, you limit your course of action to only things a hippe can do and believe in. You define yourself by what you are not (anti-war, anti-violence, anti-establishment, anti-weapons, etc). A person who does this has a definition of what ‘peace, love and unity’ are based on what they believe it isn’t, which also constricts what these things can be to a huge degree

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Mikey W (@mikeyw829)2 years, 4 months ago ago

If you are doing what you are doing not for the image or for an added sense of self, and someone happens to think that is being a hippie, so be it.Their opinion takes nothing away from you in this case because it wasn’t part of you to begin with. If you consider yourself a hippie, you limit your course of action to only things a hippe can do and believe in. You define yourself by what you are not (anti-war, anti-violence, anti-establishment, anti-weapons, etc). A person who does this has a definition of what ‘peace, love and unity’ are based on what they believe it isn’t, which also constricts what these things can be to a huge degree

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Mikey W (@mikeyw829)2 years, 4 months ago ago

If you are doing what you are doing not for the image or for an added sense of self, and someone happens to think that is being a hippie, so be it.Their opinion takes nothing away from you in this case because it wasn’t part of you to begin with. If you consider yourself a hippie, you limit your course of action to only things a hippe can do and believe in. You define yourself by what you are not (anti-war, anti-violence, anti-establishment, anti-weapons, etc). A person who does this has a definition of what ‘peace, love and unity’ are based on what they believe it isn’t, which also constricts what these things can be to a huge degree

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Mikey W (@mikeyw829)2 years, 4 months ago ago

If you are doing what you are doing not for the image or for an added sense of self, and someone happens to think that is being a hippie, so be it.Their opinion takes nothing away from you in this case because it wasn’t part of you to begin with. If you consider yourself a hippie, you limit your course of action to only things a hippe can do and believe in. You define yourself by what you are not (anti-war, anti-violence, anti-establishment, anti-weapons, etc). A person who does this has a definition of what ‘peace, love and unity’ are based on what they believe it isn’t, which also constricts what these things can be to a huge degree

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Mikey W (@mikeyw829)2 years, 4 months ago ago

If you are doing what you are doing not for the image or for an added sense of self, and someone happens to think that is being a hippie, so be it.Their opinion takes nothing away from you in this case because it wasn’t part of you to begin with. If you consider yourself a hippie, you limit your course of action to only things a hippe can do and believe in. You define yourself by what you are not (anti-war, anti-violence, anti-establishment, anti-weapons, etc). A person who does this has a definition of what ‘peace, love and unity’ are based on what they believe it isn’t, which also constricts what these things can be to a huge degree

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Mikey W (@mikeyw829)2 years, 4 months ago ago

If you are doing what you are doing not for the image or for an added sense of self, and someone happens to think that is being a hippie, so be it.Their opinion takes nothing away from you in this case because it wasn’t part of you to begin with. If you consider yourself a hippie, you limit your course of action to only things a hippe can do and believe in. You define yourself by what you are not (anti-war, anti-violence, anti-establishment, anti-weapons, etc). A person who does this has a definition of what ‘peace, love and unity’ are based on what they believe it isn’t, which also constricts what these things can be to a huge degree

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Mikey W (@mikeyw829)2 years, 4 months ago ago

sorry for the multiple posts my internet is messed up

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Alex (@hollowinfinity)2 years, 4 months ago ago

@Bird, by accepting that bad shit happens, it only perpetuates it. Sure, you can’t deny it, but to just accept it is elongating everything that is bad. Think of a politician, they are all about image. If someone’s image is constantly positive, then that rubs off on people. Sure, they might have a bad day, but in general they are positive. Positivity perpetuates more positivity. Negativity perpetuates more negativity.

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Dustin (@dobbyfisher)2 years, 4 months ago ago

I’ll take a stab at why people don’t like stereotypical hippies. I went to the Oregon Country Fair last year and there were obviously a lot of ‘hippies’. I was somewhat of a tourist (in the Fightclub sense of the word), but I had a good glimpse of the current hippy zeitgeist… which, btw, seems to be changing due to an infestation of non-mellow drug users (ie cocaine and meth); it seems these parasites are just looking to party, and where better than around a bunch of half naked free spirits. This minority is slowly destroying the purist hippy mentality by fighting and acting obnoxiously… they should stay home… but, I’m straying, back to the point.

‘Hippies’, when they are on acid/shrooms/ecstasy/weed, are amazing to be around. They are beautifully enlightened flowers who are connected to each other through love and empathy. In this state the hippy spirit flourishes, but, when they come down to the real world, they lose a portion of their collective inspiration… they still sing and danse and try to maintain their spiritual ember throughout sobriety, but the fire does not come alive until the drugs come out. This understandably yields a desire to relive the previously felt euphoria, which I agree is real emotion, but only via a synthesized vessel. I guess what I’m saying in a sentence is that: hippies are drug induced Buddhist masters. I don’t mean this negatively, I believe the emotion is pure and beautiful, but it is contingent on how far away a dealer is at the time. The entire movement is based on a synthesized shortcut to enlightenment, which is transient at best. People understandably get caught up in the spirit because they have seen a glimpse of pure love and acceptance, AND have shared this with people who understand the same thing, but when the sun comes up, the tie-dye and nudity forgets forgets a portion of its significance; the movement softens and the external world judges the resulting corpse which is devoid of serotonin and dopamine.

I am trying to convey a perspective from a non-hippy; understand, though, I am describing a stereotype based on what I saw; this was subjectively based on a uncommonly large gathering and I know it’s not representative of the whole movement… and I know that stereotypes do not encompass personalities like Dominika, but let me ask, would the hippy movement survive without drugs? If so, would it be much different then Buddhism? This is where some negativity originates, hippies can seem to an outsider as voluntarily detached from the real world and useless without their narcotic inspiration.

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stonedragon (@stonedragon21)2 years, 4 months ago ago

IM So glad that lots of you on here call yourself hippies or at least identify with what we hippies originally stood for. i am one of the really old ones from calif from the 60s. i had a vw bus and a dog and was barefoot in golden gate park. i saw joplin live and pink floyd and dropped acid back when it was first invented. we were all in revolt against the war in vietnam and all the artificial crap that society wanted us to believe.
im glad that the spirit of this lives on now, at any age we can all try to rip free from the restrains and the lies that tell us we have to adhere to a system that is based only on appearances, and the best are the winners.
peace and love from the stoned dragon mother.

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Mikey W (@mikeyw829)2 years, 4 months ago ago

@ Alex. When you say “peace is action,” I say that’s a limiting perspective of what peace is. What is peace? A hippies definition of peace is non-action, sitting in a park barefoot doing drugs and talking about how the man is bringing them down. That doesn’t even scratch the surface of what peace is and severely limits a person’s potential to initiate change. I agree the hippie movement was something that definitely woke people up to the problems of society, but when it comes down to it, its just another set of ideology that need to be moved passed. There are infinite ways peace can manifest itself. Sometimes killing is peace, sometimes war is peace, and yes, sometimes non-action is peace. There are infinitely more things that peace can be. I’m not justifying killing, but nothing can be taken off the table.

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Ellie (@tangledupinplaid21)2 years, 4 months ago ago

Wow Dustin, brilliant comment.
Hippie is definitely my default stereotype from people. I have long hair and I’m an artist so obviously that’s what I am. I used to get annoyed by being called a hippie or hipster and then I saw it for what it was, people categorizing their surroundings to be able to make better sense of them. It’s intellectual laziness and they’re the ones limiting themselves.

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Dustin (@dobbyfisher)2 years, 4 months ago ago

:) thanks Ellie

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@Ellie – No that makes you an artist, and while artists certainly can be dirty, hippies are JUST dirty.

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EliseTheAstronaut (@elisetheastronaut)2 years, 4 months ago ago

Lol, Tits.

Soo… if I look like a hippie, and I talk like I hippie, and I try to be a peaceful person and love nature and stuff… but I shower regularly and also don’t rely on drugs for my daily experiences to be validated, nor do I have any stds… does that mean I’m not really a hippie? I’m just a hippie poser who is actually quite nice smelling, with no open skin lesions?

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Anonymous (@)2 years, 4 months ago ago

Elise, do you really wear “flower power” clothes? The most important thing is their music, actually. So I don’t really think there is a real hippie here, except maybe @stonedragon?
There’s even a guide… http://www.wikihow.com/Be-a-Hippie

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Anonymous (@)2 years, 4 months ago ago

I love their music, it’s actually my favorite… But I guess it comes down to the difference between staying positive and thinking you can save the fucking planet from something.

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stonedragon (@stonedragon21)2 years, 4 months ago ago

click in this and have a listen to something mellow from my time, sit back lite a fattie and groove out a bit kids..

as far as what everyone is labeling and judging you it is just an illusion.
dont get hung up on it. you are who you are.
and i believe in everyone taking responsibility for what needs to be done
for their own self, their own life, their own kids and mess they make, that includes recycling your own garbage, working and not mooching on others. and generally making and spreading love all around.
plant trees, plant flowers, pick up trash.
that is the real hippie spirit.
it does not mean you can not be high, take a shower or swim in a lake
be at peace with those around you but express your anger if need be.
just be your self. the rest is all stupid judgements.keep it real…

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Anonymous (@)2 years, 4 months ago ago

@stonedragon, your post alone made me high. Thank you. :)

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stonedragon (@stonedragon21)2 years, 4 months ago ago

sasho that was a good thing i posted that then. this morning before setting out on a freeway journey from the city back to my home in the country. ah the fresh air. ahhhhh…. i hope it layed you back man, and you had a great day in BULGARIA!

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Martijn Schirp (@martijn)2 years, 4 months ago ago

Great comment Dustin, well said!

I think the biggest critique to the stereotype hippy is that they are naive. They believe if everyone just has a positive mind set, dropped some pills once in a while the world will be at peace. They underestimate the enormous forces that work on people. Capital, institutions, belief system, maladaptive genes, cognitive biases etc. Their believe in the good, love, is justified. But they don’t seem to wanna put in the work to really understand it more deeply and blindly follow the obscurantism inherent in any new age book: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obscurantism

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Sean D Stevens (@thelaughingfool)2 years, 4 months ago ago

The problem isn’t that there’s too much hate for hippies.
The problem is that there isn’t enough.
I come to this site because I consider myself a philosopher, so I don’t want to talk about a philosophy that we already know failed.

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