Tagged: Life Bliss Lost
Okay HE my problem is that I frequently forget what makes me happy, either that or I just lose interest in the things that once made me happy. Sure that’s a good time to spark new interests but I’m the kind of person who will get into something 110% when it’s something i’m into but when I am no longer interested in it I just have a blank state of mind and a general state of feeling lost. It’s very hard to find new things I enjoy. Anyone have tips on finding new interests in life?
hi, i’m getting really lazy with this site so i’ll just drop my cuckoo egg here and flee, sry
@paintedbeings, i read the article, and eh, i don’t really agree with it. i’ve lived without a passion/bliss for a while now, and I’ve felt like something’s missing. And during that time when I’ve had a job, things really sucked. I think having a passion is what makes a person interesting, people without passions tend to be dull.
i mean, in my own life, i’m sort of worried the money won’t ever come. my loves are in the right brained fields, but my training is in the left (business degree). but i can’t stand the thought of me wasting the rest of my life in a cubicle struggling to move up the corporate ladder eventually becoming a fat, boring, bitter old man. i HAVE to follow my bliss and i HAVE to keep pushing until it breaks through, there’s no other acceptable outcome.
@theskafish, i don’t think that’s what it really said, maybe we’re interpreting it wrong. People with passions can also be dull because of nature of definition of passion. I think it had some interesting advice though than is often overlooked.
@universaldrifter, I came back after thinking about it in the back of my head and I just want to throw another (probably again irrelevant) suggestion that it sort of sounds like being generally depressed about things. The forgetting what makes your happy and losing interest in things that used to at least do. Or maybe I’m not fully understanding you. Can you explain deeper as to why something you got into is later no longer interesting at all/ not enjoyable and needs a new thing to replace it? Also, what was something you were fond of as early in life as you can remember that still makes you happy today?
@theskafish, the article isn’t telling you to give up, it’s just showing a new take on certain views. Are you looking to make money on right brained activities? I have trouble understanding relevance of what you’re saying to the article. Please explain more ;-\
@paintedbeings, could be an interpretation thing. this is what i’m talking about:
“3. The search for one’s passion can be a distraction from living in the present.
Fifty years before Steve Jobs told college graduates to ceaselessly search for their true passion, the great Trappist monk Thomas Merton observed, “The world is full of unsuccessful businessmen who still secretly believe they were meant to be artists or writers or actors in the movies.” Merton exhorted others instead to find meaning in an imperfect present moment.”
these unsuccessful businessmen should have tried harder to realize their passions of becoming artists, writers, and actors. he makes it sound as if they are dreadfully unhappy as businessmen, but then he suggests they should just learn to be happy with their imperfect, unpleasant lives.
@paintedbeings, “Are you looking to make money on right brained activities?”
Possibly. Not in any sort of cheesy, sell-out fashion. But I would like to have a niche and get good enough to ask for some money, yes – for the sake of being good at something, and the sake of living what i love. And I would like to stop having to spend my time on things I care nothing about, for example, most jobs.
i’ve lived too long without passion to know that i can’t allow myself to spend the rest of my life this way.
@theskafish, if they found meaning, they wouldn’t become happy with their unpleasant lives. It isn’t to stop them from trying harder to realize their passions, it is to make them get realistic about the pursuit of it. And that required consideration of other points in article, pretty much (in my opinion). Ignore taking the article title too literally.
And I applaud you, make the transition. One of the points of the article is to keep in mind that you might hate it once its the biz that brings you money. You still need to consider your needs as a human and whatever else your happiness depends on.
(this is possibly a bad and haste example) Want to paint? No one’s buying art and still want to paint but can’t afford paints and now lost sixty pounds and no one is still seeing your genius? Review situation, sacrifice a few days to job that makes you a better artist, say, via people influencing or people watching or something else you like (point in article) and buy the paints and food and now bring a new point of view to the canvas (you are living what you love this whole time). Thats what I think they’re trying to say. I am absolutely terrible at explaining things probably. You could live what you love in different ways but people seem to get stuck and foget the point – to live what you love – and the article offers perspectives of how to get unstuck and start feeling the whole love and living thing.
@theskafish, I feel like the article is more a tale of caution about how to live what you love without straining so hard to do it that you’re not living and its not something you love. I feel like it tells those things to asses common interpretations of advice about following one’s passion that can end up misinterpreted. Maybe its a stupid article. Don’t take it too seriously.
here wait, im editing this post so i dont end up spamming this thread to death
I gave up, sorry. I just want you to know that I wasn’t attacking you, and that we have a lot in common. I just thought that the article freed one to actually pursue one’s passion and gives keys to open the doors where looking for living what you love becomes doing what you love. @theskafish,
@theskafish, I think the problem really is with article’s title and ending, if you ignore that – you get some nice advice on how to take on problems that could come up if one follows their passion or looks for their passion too blindly. Personally, I liked their point 2 and 4 the most – a lot of people suffering could use the revelation to focus on landing a well paying part time job that they actually get something out of, don’t feel drained and trapped in, and that ADDS (brings inspiration) to their main squeeze that they keep pursuing like hell in all that free time while they can afford basics of living and doing what they love. Also, people often hope their passion makes a living – but imagine how much pressure that is in the right brain careers – and how it can really dampen what you feel if you really love what you do. Imagine getting paid to eat. What if you feel sick and have to eat a few times anyway? Then what if you end up hating eating– but you HAVE to eat in order to live… but now eating is this thing, too, and now you can’t even eat for yourself or enjoy it. (eating = doing what you love, that you must do, because that’s your passion and youll die without it). If you think of it that way, somehow it makes you appreciate the meaning of what you love more than before looking at it that way. Artistic stuff is often what a human mind does as a means to survive, and that article made me realize that we should treat it in a more sacred way, explore what makes us tick as an artist, and then hone a compartment of that main thing (or another passion, or something that inspires or enriches your work) into being profitable, and leave the “living” part of us alone to be what it was when we were younger and uninhibited. (Article discusses this in point 2, it seems.)
The businessmen quote was about people who sit and dwell on it, not seeing the main situation and therefore not making the best of it and benefiting no one (which could lead to, say, becoming a badass businessman and using this skill in getting kickass at selling own fruits of passion). A lot of point in article are left to interpretation, and I guess this is mine.
This isn’t relevant to main post, but it may be relevant to you, maybe not sure.
@universaldrifter, nothing should make you happy. You should just be happy to be alive and healthy. Be grateful for that. Be grateful period. We’re all vulnerable and the lovely thing is suffering is inevitable for all of us, and we all get to suffer together and share our sufferings together that creates a bridge towards hope and the end of it. Show compassion and love. Do unto others as you wish they’d do onto you. Experience. Explore. Take risks. Do the unknown. Question. You’ll be okay.
@evolve, Thank you for that. I really enjoyed reading that reply. I kind of realized that the problem is that I’ve been surrounding myself with the wrong people. Ones who are all about negativity and bringing people down. Simply enough I just need to live.
You find it by searching, at this point. Get out and participate in various activities that appeal to you. I’m not sure how your community is. I live in a college town and there are plenty of things to get into. My bliss is gardening, to put it simply.
@universaldrifter, you need to get away from those people because they are a misconductive source of your exact intentions which is very counterproductive. So stop going backwards. Find the others that are also trying to find themselves. Know that they’re out there searching just like you.
@guywhois, See that’s a problem i have. My town has a population of 2,000 and a very large percentage of that is older people. I live in a retirement/farm town in which I know that I need to leave it and find a new place but I don’t currently have the resources. I recently got a job that put me in Pittsburgh and it’s there that i feel like i found myself but It was only temporary and as the job came to an end so did my means of living out there. The thing i find the most interest in is Marijuana, not even just for the high. The culture surrounding the plant just appeals to me more than anything else, I love the smell, taste, it’s looks. I just love people who share a common love for it. It makes me want to move out to Colorado and get a job tending to plants or something lol
@evolve, Your completely right man, like i don’t let them control me even though they try but disputing with them draws the positive energy out of me and feeds them just as if i gave in completely. I think I found the people I need to be around, i just gotta find a way to be around them more often. I often wonder where everyone would be and what they would be doing If money was not an issue and life was like a free roam video game.
@universaldrifter, Let me tell you this, seems like almost everyone sensible I talk to and Joe Rogan all talk about moving to Colorado. I’ve been wanting to move out there ever since I started watching Tokin Daily a few years ago. Seems to be quite progressive there. So maybe I’ll see you out there one day and not have a clue.
I find that people get the most happiness from doing something creative. Music, art, gardening for myself, writing, filming, something along those lines you know? A sort of bringing into this world as a conductor for the forever-moving flow of the Universe.
@guywhois, Yeah man I’m a big fan of Joe Rogan and that would be really cool if we did end up seeing each other up there, I wouldn’t put it past the universe haha. I feel like the things you mentioned are what we are put here for, as human beings we should never stop creating and bringing things into this world from our creative minds. I know i feel a lot more at peace since I started putting my feelings onto paper in the form of poetry and even stories. I wanna eventually start converting my poetry into song lyrics. But that’s gonna take some courage to start singing
@universaldrifter, Discovering what you love to do is part of the adventure. There are some mind games to play, like… Imagine you had 100 million dollars. What would you do tomorrow? Okay, let that fantasy play out. Now, once you’re done with that, what would you do? Okay, and after that? Keep going through the question of what would you do with huge financial resources until you’ve played out all those shallow fantasies. Then once you’re through all that, really think about how you’d like to spend your day. Teaching? Traveling? Going on an Arctic expedition? Photography? Running marathons? Writing science fiction? Would you want to run a non-profit working on desalinization? Whatever that is, whatever you settle on, that’s a clue.
This is also a good book for figuring it out. It’s not so much about a career as it is about remembering what you love: http://amzn.com/0440505003
@universaldrifter, if you feel like you can trust them, explain your dilemma to them. If they’re who you say they are, positive and all, they’d understand and help you within their means of reason.
Don’t waste your time with joe rogan and studying people. Study yourself and others in your life. If anything, continue to ask questions and continue to seem answers.
The thing about happiness is that it does not exist in anything externally. Happiness is something that is at the core of our being. People however learn as they grow that having money give them power or having this or that will equal happiness. These external things only satisfy your natural instinctual desires as a human. They do nothing for your soul. So to achieve happiness you must stop trying to “find” it because the more you try the more you move away from it. In order to stop trying you have to let go of as much as you can. By that I mean your beliefs on what makes you happy, regrets, expectations, and desires to change things (especially your environment and the people around you). These things only exist within the mind and bliss only exists within the current moment. Good luck on your journey to happiness and self actualization :)