I go back and forth on this all the time. I think we have amazing potential and for the most part do pretty well for ourselves being crammed together on this planet but as soon as I turn on the TV, all of that goes out the window. I see materialism and narcissism being shoved down our throats, I see the sexual objectification of young girls and I feel as if there is a major regression going on.
Then there are the positives, in the last few years we have seen major revolutions and the push for global human rights. I think the Ron Paul Revolution really speak volumes about what people in this country are really thinking and feeling about the direction we are going in. Whether or not you agree with the man, you cannot deny scope of the moment and the impact it has had despite the denial and blackout of the mainstream media.
I think because of the advancements in technology (communication, the internet) there is definitely a huge shift in global consciousness going on. People all across the world are waking up and realizing that we are not so different, prejudices are dissolving. People are able to see that the people of the countries that they have been raised to hate are really just like them. All of the regression and terrible things that are happening across the world are the products of the worlds governments and corporations, not the people that live under said governments.
I have also realized people in this country are becoming more aware of global events and speaking out. I can’t get on Facebook without seeing posts about the atrocities in Gaza or anywhere in the world for that matter. I have been screaming about Gaza and Israel since 07 and nobody wanted to talk about it but now it’s everywhere. Important subjects that were taboo or that people were just ignorant of are now everywhere, especially coming from people of the ages of 18-35. The daily membership growth of this website alone is a huge testament to this, people are thirsty for the truth, for spiritual conversation, for self and global improvement. I love it, it gives me a lot of hope for our future.
With all that said, I am so grateful that I stumbled upon this awesome community and have the opportunity to interact with so many intelligent and awake individuals, so thank you all and keep up the great conversations :)
What are your thoughts? Are we moving forward? Are we doomed? I am anxious to get some opinions.
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@cadeus333, probably the same as humanity has always done. And we probably notice our contempt for societal values at the same time and age as everybody in our demograph and age group have throughout the history of humanity.
We think we’re special and overt thinkers, but actually we’re probably thinking within the same schema as our parents and grandparents.
Just a thought.
@piptherational, This is not the first time I have heard this and you could very well be right. We love to feel special or as if we are on the verge of accomplishing something amazing because we are so socially aware and such good people. Age definitely plays a role in this but don’t you think as a whole these ideals are more widespread? It seems so to me, but that could have a whole lot to do with me interacting with like minded and projecting my beliefs and ideals onto others.
@cadeus333, yes I think every culture has a critical point – especially when they start to worship things.
It was once the rain, then it was “gods” and statues, then it was prophets, then it was money and power, now its money,power, and materialism – with a bit of celebrities thrown in.
I think we’ve begun the ascent of new ideas to overthrow the consumerism mentality, but consumerism is still expanding and will continue for some time. However, when the majority becomes more aware, then the tides will shift.
I notice more and more people becoming aware. What was once taboo isn’t anymore. What was once mysterious and not understood is clear. Colleges begin teaching “Complex systems” courses, and when the deficiencies of our culture become mainstream, you know things are changing.
@ijesuschrist, Absolutely, I couldn’t have said it better myself. People do seem thirsty for real change but there will always be those who are complacent and threatened by such a change and I’m talking about individuals here but there is no question that governments and corporations are extremely threatened by these changes. I think that is why the level of materialism and narcissism being shoved down our throats is getting worse and worse, they know what is happening and are fighting tooth and nail to stop it. I think this is actually hurting them because it is more obvious to people what a load of crap it all is.
@cadeus333, I can’t say for sure, but I feel as though we are moving forward. The way I look at it is that I think we all have a saturation point. A point where we’re sick of the same shit. Be it getting sick of owning loads of stuff and not being any happier, or having to watch the same tv show regurgitated time and time again, or eating the same junk that makes you feel shit. Granted everyone’s saturation point is different, and some can and will continue to take it all in a lot longer. It may only be when big changes happen that they end up going with the flow.
Now when I first started thinking the way I do, and started frequenting the likes of HE, I’ll be honest…I thought ‘damn, I need to get some new friends’. Not true. Turns out some of them already thought that way, and others have been more than willing to listen. Also a huge majority of the people I know have in the past year become much healthier, hitting the gym and eating better. Having a healthy body = a healthy mind = clearer thought.
I have thought that what you said @piptherational is possibly true also. But information travels further and is able to pick up momentum better. You thought differently back in the day, and had people look at you funny, I guess you maybe carried on as normal. We can now connect with people from all over the world. That is kind of huge.
I also think that it’s likely that technology will change things more than we can imagine in the next few decades, be it with 3D printing or with something that doesn’t even exist yet. Overall I’m hopeful for the future, although think there will be a pretty dark period before hand. Hmmm who knows!
We are definitely moving forward, but at what cost and towards what kind of future. We are too many, we consume too much and at a rate which is too high and in ways which are unsustainable.
…and humanity as a whole… I’m not too impressed by the common man. Their values, priorities, ethics and lifestyle leave much to be hoped for. They are too shortsighted, vain and selfish among many things.
@cadeus333, When I look around where I live, I notice that people like to look the other way a lot, by avoiding eye contact, the many homeless, or like someone is waiting to take advantage of them. Yet they’re all afraid of moving against the crowd, because if they don’t live inside of their own protective sheet of bubble wrap then everything will harm them. I am not apart from this. When you talk to a stranger or maybe a customer if you work a job like that, do you notice that they will seem distant or separated in some way avoiding connection. I think they way general society runs, that people are really scared. And many need to be told that its okay before they start to live like they want to. I’m not fully separate from this either because I notice that when I’m with my friends or acquaintances that rarely do I open up and talk about real stuff like on HE and I will act a lot dumber (less ME).
The whole this with Ron Paul is great, because he shows a tangible alternative route and give a reason for like minded people to start spouting their opinions and pulling together. Kind of like in High Existence! I don’t know why people need to told its okay before being the change.
@deej, It saddens me to see that people feel so separate from one another. Most people are very afraid, and I don’t even think they know what they are afraid of. Their fellow human being? Why?
As much as possible, when passing people on the street I like to make eye contact and give them a little smile, nod or say hello. It seems to make some people uncomfortable, just the fact that I am acknowledging their existence, a perfect stranger. But most of the time, people seem to respond in a positive manner, they smile back and return my greeting.
It may seem trivial but I feel that doing things like this are important. It reminds people that they do not have to be afraid or suspicious of everything, I think they appreciate it and they may just smile and greet the next person on the street, spreading just a little bit of love and positivity, it’s contagious and can make more of an impact than you would think.
We may have strayed a lot but we are inherently good, and I think most people deep down, desperately want to be good to people. We have just been put in a perpetual state of fear, all you have to do is turn on the nightly news and you will understand why but these terrible stories that we are bombarded with are not representative of humanity as a whole. Maybe I am too optimistic, but I’ve never heard someone say that it is a bad thing. We need some optimism, now more than ever.
@cadeus333, Weelll you know when I grew up I was told to be wary of strangers and my parents wanted me to not embarrass them so I think thats a common thing and then we see our the grownups and just eventually become like them if we don’t watch out. But we are in a state where people feel like they have to be defensive and be on guard because there is some weird things that come out of fear mongering that manifest its self for real in society. Endless loopily.
I think what you are doing is real important, so keep it up, don’t stop :) Man it would be great if people didn’t feel like they had to be closed off, I think I’ll try what you are doing :). Do you have any other things you do to be real with people?
On another note. I don’t think that the world is inherently bad. In fact I don’t think the world is inherently anything. Looking up from what you are doing can be a good thing for you too because you get a chance to see the world as it is with all of it’s materialism and narcissism and realistically be able to further your goals by understanding the situation. I’m not sure if what I said makes sense but great post it covers exactly what is on my mind.
— as I turn on the TV —
i think this probably has a lot to do with a negative opinion, make sure you take in to account that the entertainment industry is fixated on ratings, therefore generally only chooses to cover negatives, and of the negatives, the spin is often fixated only on the extreme parts,
also consider that, because of TV, and the internet, we now have more access than ever to world events, therefore shit that may have been going down! for awhile may just be filtering in to us, to us its new therefore immediately seems like an escalation, even though, in reality, the situation may in fact be de-escalating from a historical standpoint, like in the Middle East
personally, i look at the great wars for my first glimpse at this question, and there definitely has been a de-escalation from WWI / WWII — today
secondly, and i’d have to research this too, i would compare / contrast global civil unrest from a historical standpoint and a severity standpoint, this would probably give you some nice context to consider your question from
i think the world is getting better and i agree with you about the internet, the way i see it, the only way to defeat the fear that ignorance brings is through exposure, humans exposed to foreign humans, humanizes their humanity, slowly pulling back the curtain of fear
@deej, As a new parent, I understand the need to teach children to be careful and not speak to strangers (at least if I am not around). My perspective on a lot of things have changed since my little girl came into the world. She is only four months but she is friendly and curious like me, my wife is very reserved and careful.
I will teach my daughter to be friendly to people and to speak when spoken to by someone (if she is with me). Most children are naturally shy and will normally hide behind their parent when spoken to by a stranger. There is nothing wrong with this but I think it is important to teach children to be careful but friendly.
It is hard to have a little girl because I know I will fret over her more because girls and women are more likely to be victims of crimes. When she is older I will definitely have her put into some sort of marshal arts training. It is important that young women be able to defend themselves because it wont we long until she is going out without daddy. It’s scary.
I don’t even like to think about the dating and sex part, that terrifies me. I will do everything possible to instill good morals and self respect in her. I look around and I see 5th graders running around with their asscheecks hanging out of their booty shorts, it really make me sick that the media and music industry are sexually objectifying young women. This is the reason why there will be very little if any TV in the house.
Anyways, I got off topic but I agree I think things are getting better and there are aspects of society that are regressing. We just need to teach our children that the TV does not represent reality.
I have to get back to work but I will be back on soon for more replies. And thank you, I’m glad you think what i’m doing is beneficial in some way :)