I am stealing a question from the new poll…

3 years, 7 months ago

Do you put any stock in astrology? Why? How? (etc, etc) :)

August 30, 2011 at 4:07 pm

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Profile photo of Em Em (@emily) 3 years, 7 months ago ago

Haha I was confused myself reading that one :)
*edit—nevermind… I’m a blonde & read the question too literally :)

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Profile photo of Alex Alex (@hollowinfinity) 3 years, 7 months ago ago

Yes, in the sense that we should pay attention to the revolutions, and cycles we can observe. Look how beneficial it was for us to realize it becomes winter and summer every year? I feel there are much greater cycles out there, and to be aware of them would be a good thing.
Besides that, I don’t really go for horoscopes, although I’m beginning to notice how crazy some of the coincidences are from moving into different constellations. Like, Jesus’ rise was at the beginning of the Pisces age, and coming to the end of it now, he has lost much credibility.

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Profile photo of Ellie Ellie M (@tangledupinplaid21) 3 years, 7 months ago ago

I attribute Jesus losing a lot of credibility due to freer exchange of information(the internet), and advancements in science. We are evolving past the need for such explanations. I used to dabble in astrology and was almost convinced after doing some charts for at least 5 friends that were detailed accounts of their personalities and dead accurate. Nowadays I lean towards astrology being bogus, but I don’t have all the necessary info to be completely on one side of the fence or the other. For astrology to be true it would have to mean that people are destined to be a certain way and I have hard time believing that.

The Forer Effect it explains a lot about religion and horoscopes:
The Forer effect (also called the Barnum Effect after P.T. Barnum’s observation that “we’ve got something for everyone”) is the observation that individuals will give high accuracy ratings to descriptions of their personality that supposedly are tailored specifically for them, but are in fact vague and general enough to apply to a wide range of people. This effect can provide a partial explanation for the widespread acceptance of some beliefs and practices, such as astrology, fortune telling, and some types of personality tests.
A related and more general phenomenon is that of subjective validation.[1] Subjective validation occurs when two unrelated or even random events are perceived to be related because a belief, expectancy, or hypothesis demands a relationship.
(Such as the rising of Jesus corresponding with the Pisces age or religious people seeing God in everything while atheists don’t.)

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Profile photo of Alex Alex (@hollowinfinity) 3 years, 7 months ago ago

Ah, this goes back to coincidence theory. haha.
Are they coincidences though? I see what you say in the fact that astrology would pre-determine us, and I look at that two ways. All time exists at once, so basically we already have chosen all future events. That, or could their be potential guidelines that we follow? As in, we are given free will, up to a certain point. Is there a flesh-hold that limits us in a way?
Celestial Influence fascinates me. I’m reading a book on it now, and this popped up in my news a few weeks back.

http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-07-galaxy-sized-violating-particles-line.html

That theory, since we are made of particles, would give us freedom of free choice and will, to a certain extent. Could humans be consisted of violating particles, that one day the galaxy would have to set straight?

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Profile photo of ELI var namnet ELI var namnet (@manimal) 3 years, 7 months ago ago

Celestial bodies have magnetic fields and radiation and other stuff that affects their surroundings. The whole universe is connected, the magnetic forces alone are massive and one planet changing will cause a chain reaction etc.

Everything is made out of energy, electrical currents. Electromagnetic fields affect so much. Changes in the space around our planet affect us. Just look at how the cycle of the moon affects the tide of waters and the mood of animals (including humans.) Or how the seasons of the year affect people’s and animals’ behavior.

I don’t believe in horoscopes or zodiac signs or a predefined destiny or things like that, to me that’s all looney mumbojumbo. But I know that the random events in space affect us to various degrees. This isn’t supernatural or mystic at all, it’s simple physics.

Does that make me a believer in astrology or a non-believer? I really don’t know and I don’t care about such labels. I believe in space and physics.

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