If you don’t believe a certain way you go to Hell?
Personally I have a problem with a belief system that uses a "bribe" to get good behavior. So why do people believe? Because if they don’t, they’ll go to Hell when they die? That doesn’t make sense. Beliefs have to make sense.
Recently, i’ve been curious and interested in researching about other religions. My family is catholic and is pretty religious. And that’s what i thought i have been my whole life, but i never really stopped and wondered anything else, because it’s what i’ve always been taught. So when i started to think about it i got really freaked out, because the Bible says if you don’t believe this way and these things you will go to hell. I feel alot of people are the same and dont think much about it beacuse it is what they are “taught.” Which makes me think we are a very gullible society. If someone said you had to believe a teddy bear died for your sins or you went to hell, you would believe it because it is all you’ve ever know.
I am extremely skeptical of anything that discourages doubt and questioning, which are natural human tendencies. The only way any great discoveries or inventions were ever made was by people questioning what they thought they knew. It is how you progress. To simply accept something at face value is to deny growth, in my opinion. What if black people had never questioned their slavery? What if women never questioned the fact that they can’t vote? What if no one ever wondered whether there’s a possible way to treat illnesses? Question everything.
Well either way you get an everlasting afterlife and either way it’s eventually going to get boring.
Christianity is basically a lose/lose situation
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JESUS OR HELL!
If there is a God out there who is pissed off at you for having questions, is that the kind of god that deserves worship? Hypothetical situation: there is a boy who has only ever seen one girl in his whole life. Do you think she is flattered when he tells her he loves her, that she is the only girl for him? How much more would it mean to her if he searched the entire world, saw every girl out there, came back and said “you are the one for me, no one is like you, i love you”? If we never branch out and look at things for ourselves with an open and skeptical mind, if one tiny point of view is all we know, then does your praise for God mean anything? Does it mean anything if you believe out of fear and ignorance?
Has anyone ever got their parents so far as to look into other things than(or then?) religion? If so let me know how you did it!
Seems impossible to me, only reply my parents would prolly give is that they don’t need to look any further because they already found the ‘truth’. And the bible also discourages it to look for other ‘things’.
Naah, heaven is supposed to be awesome,.. but never been there yet myself
I’m atheist but I haven’t always been. I’ve done a lot of thinking over the past couple of years and I made my decision about an year ago. I think everybody has their opinions and people really need to think for themselves and not let others think for you.
I think hell is just a state of mind (that a vast majority of people live in!).
Hell is earthly ignorance to truth. Truth is an uncertain future and realization of happiness within it.
Well stated, but I’m kind of confused on what you mean in the second paragraph. It just seems to me that you’d fall under the label of agnostic atheist as well, please explain if you disagree.
That’s a funny connotation, maybe it was my username that implicitly primed your mind to associate the word agnostic with amish, seeing that my username seems pretty close to it as well. But I think labels suck anyways so it doesn’t really matter.
I’m confused on how it is impossible for people to integrate their externalized inner-self into their personality if it’s that external inner-self that it shaping their beliefs in the first place. And I think people can be whoever they feel that they are, as in the case of Brandon Teena(portrayed in the movie Boys Don’t Cry) who was a biological female but felt that he was a male. Therefore as far as I am concerned, he was.
I don’t know, might have misunderstood what you wrote. Need to get to sleep in order to wake up for school at 2 pm haha.
To be honest you’re living in hell right now…
I mean if ultimately you would like to be one with everything then don’t you think the state we are in at the moment is hell?
Think about it
I didn’t dismiss the fact that there is good in this world, of course there is!
…and theres bad.
but thats what causes separation!
in order to be separate you need two sides?
think some more
Heaven is bliss, hell is misery. They’re emotional feedback on your thoughts and actions. Cognitive dissonance and incongruence with your best self sends you to hell (makes you feel sad/angry/bored/apathetic) while clear intent and positive action sends you to heaven (feelings of joy, love, strength.) It’s all in this present moment, not after death.
This punishment or reward after death, that’s something the priests and kings added into the bible in order for people to obey their rule. It’s got nothing to do with the actual teachings of Yeshuah or any of the guys in the bible. Religion fucked up an otherwise good book.
Hell is not a place.
@Taylor. Well, in a way. That would require us to define the word life first. However, I’ve never seen any reason to believe that life just stops. We don’t even really know what death is. I just simply believe after we die we enter a progressively more ‘real’ version of ‘life’ and the universe. A constant upward progression. To me, the more natural way of the universe is creation. Reality is extremely subjective.
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